tanks in DPS gear make pvp objectively more fun

[Caeliuxrules]

No one in PvP who knows what they are doing, wears tank gear anymore. It nerfs your DPS too much and you add less effective to your team.

 

So therefore he was skank tank. Not a real tank but a dps tank. No not a dps trying to act like a tank, cause that is called bruce jenner spec.

 

A dps trying to be a tank is called a bruce jenner spec because the dps knows it is a dps, but has dreams of being a tank, and even with small tank cosmetic adjustments, never will be a tank.

 

A skank tank is a tank in dps gear with no absorbtion, no shield protection, all dps mini max to be a dps tank.

 

Too many people confuse that with the word skank tank. No self rightious player should ever be a wannabe dps and try to tank. Then again morals and values in this day of age have been lost in a fruit basket...

Edited July 29, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[Going]

8.8K DPS is darn impressive, I don't care how blasé people are in this thread

 

It really isn't though. These numbers are normal for pt danks

[Caeliuxrules]

It really isn't though.

 

These numbers are normal for pt danks

 

Its a over flatted dog food spec and waste of time. But whatever I dont pay nobodys sub, go right ahead and be the alpo dog food spec of the game... 😂

[kissingaiur]

Skank tank = a DPS Speced player who is guarding another player.

 

Doc was not "skank tanking" seeing how he was in tank spec and wearing DPS gear.

 

That is like saying a concealment operative and lethality operative are the same thing.

 

I know definitions can be hard.

[Caeliuxrules]

Skank tank = a DPS Speced player who is guarding another player.

 

Doc was not "skank tanking" seeing how he was in tank spec and wearing DPS gear.

 

That is like saying a concealment operative and lethality operative are the same thing.

 

I know definitions can be hard.

 

So in your brain, you think skank tanking dont mean a tank in dps gear? Yet the reference applys, are you a tank which means are you really a tank wearing tank gear, or are you a tank wearing dps gear which skank.

 

A dps puting guard on and acting like a tank isnt tank, and its not skank tank either.

 

That is called be a fool and wasting everyones time.

[kissingaiur]

So in your brain, you think skank tanking dont mean a tank in dps gear? Yet the reference applys, are you a tank which means are you really a tank wearing tank gear, or are you a tank wearing dps gear which skank.

 

A dps puting guard on and acting like a tank isnt tank, and its not skank tank either.

 

That is called be a fool and wasting everyones time.

 

Words don't have meaning apparently.

[Caeliuxrules]

Words don't have meaning apparently.

 

Again, problem with mmo standard words like skank tank it was thought of cause dps being like a tank, or yet off tank right?

 

But off tank isnt skank, its a wannabe tank but a dps.

 

Skank tank is a tank, in dps gear trying to pad stats and still has all the ablities of a real tank. Its a hybrid by nature, dps shouldnt ever have taunt or tank like ablities in a mmo, period. Its gameplay flaw, abomination to balance in a mmo.

 

Look if you and your croonies wanna call it a chicken nugget spec, or a twilight glitter spec, so be it.

 

Its a dps tank, hybrid, skank, who cares.

 

Nothing really to see, 4 healers and a dps tank smashing about 5 buttons. Yippee.

Edited July 29, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[yellow_]

skank

skaNGk/Submit

verb

1.

swindle or deceive.

 

skanking, aka swindling, refers to pretending to be a tank when you are not. you are a skank tank when you are in dps spec and guarding people

 

now that's settled, lets get back on the topic of how mitigation tanks are boring turtles that make stuff die even slower than it already does thus making pvp worse

[Caeliuxrules]

skank

skaNGk/Submit

verb

1.

swindle or deceive.

 

skanking, aka swindling, refers to pretending to be a tank when you are not. you are a skank tank when you are in dps spec and guarding people

 

now that's settled, lets get back on the topic of how mitigation tanks are boring turtles that make stuff die even slower than it already does thus making pvp worse

 

Swindle or decieve meaning not a real tank. Which means a tank in dps gear isnt a real tank aka swindle or decieve your enemy? lol. Urban meaning dont apply, everyone knows that..

 

On topic: When did being a real tank in real tank gear suck? I mean having more hp, have a premade, being a beast, and being able to survive longer sucks?

 

To me its a mindset of wanna kill and tank but wanna have dps, which is having your cake and eat it too no?

 

I know as a tank in pve you aint a dps, you are the glue to hold it all together. Once you become greedy and forget that then here goes leeroy jenkins..

Edited July 29, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[Kyuuu]

Swindle or decieve meaning not a real tank. Which means a tank in dps gear isnt a real tank aka swindle or decieve your enemy? lol. Urban meaning dont apply, everyone knows that..

 

On topic: When did being a real tank in real tank gear suck? I mean having more hp, have a premade, being a beast, and being able to survive longer sucks?

 

To me its a mindset of wanna kill but wanna have dps, which is having your cake and eat it too no?

 

I know as a tank in pve you aint a dps, you are the glue to hold it all together. Once you become greedy and forget that then here goes leeroy jenkins..

 

that cause people think pure tanks should be able to kill people like dps, it is not there job is to tank not dps

Edited July 29, 2017 by Kyuuu

[Caeliuxrules]

that cause people think pure tanks should be able to kill people like dps, it is not there job is to tank not dps

 

AMEN.

 

That is my point. Tanks wanna dps but complain its boring being a real tank?

 

Here is food for thought.. Dont tank!

 

😂😂😂😂

[kissingaiur]

that cause people think pure tanks should be able to kill people like dps, it is not there job is to tank not dps

 

Have you ever played ranked in this game? Tank's doing damage is what decides battles. Players like Valek, Molra and Nightrain as tanks pull 4k+ DPS just like their DPS in their solo ranked/group ranked games is the deciding factor of how they are so high rated. Tank DPS has been the new meta since 4.0, some people are just late to the party i guess.

Edited July 29, 2017 by kissingaiur

[Kyuuu]

Have you ever played ranked in this game? Tank's doing damage is what decides battles. Players like Valek, Molra and Nightrain as tanks pull 4k+ DPS just like their DPS in their solo ranked/group ranked games is the deciding factor of how they are so high rated. Tank DPS has been the new meta since 4.0, some people are just late to the party i guess.

 

yes i have and that not the point if tanks where ment to do dps they would not be called tanks and if your dps is competent the tanks dps is irrelevant. only tanks that think there dps matters is tanks that playing with bad dps.

 

But lets get 1 thing straight TANKS are TANKS there not ment to be DPS or to beable to kill things them selves. they ment to keep people alive and be meat shield. that why there called TANKS

 

just another reason why Tank ability , Taunt,Guard, and Shield Generators need to only usable by TANK SPEC this will fix the problem of dps trying to be tanks and tanks trying to be dps altest from the spec stand point, Same need to happen with Heals all heals Skills/Abilities need to usable only in heal spec.

 

To much role overlaping is why pvp is mess, among other things

Edited July 29, 2017 by Kyuuu

[Beyrahl]

The dream aoe game.

[LanternsUnite]

yes i have and that not the point if tanks where ment to do dps they would not be called tanks and if your dps is competent the tanks dps is irrelevant. only tanks that think there dps matters is tanks that playing with bad dps.

 

But lets get 1 thing straight TANKS are TANKS there not ment to be DPS or to beable to kill things them selves. they ment to keep people alive and be meat shield. that why there called TANKS

 

just another reason why Tank ability , Taunt,Guard, and Shield Generators need to only usable by TANK SPEC this will fix the problem of dps trying to be tanks and tanks trying to be dps altest from the spec stand point, Same need to happen with Heals all heals Skills/Abilities need to usable only in heal spec.

 

To much role overlaping is why pvp is mess, among other things

This is just sad. People moaning and groaning because their beloved support roles are subpar in PvP since tank stats are completely 100% irrelevant in any PvP scenario and aren't even viable. **** ANYONE who is in their right minds would run a 208 geared sin DPS and have him guard than a full 248 mitigation or absorption tank just because you're practically a liability in a WZ. No damage at all compared to what it could be and your damage in barely changes at all unless you're getting an extra DCD or two from being a tank.

 

Face the facts. In ANY game, things are not meant to be played the same way in both PvE and PvP. That's what separates the two besides one being against NPCs and one being against other players. It's different scenarios, different environments, different encounters, different options between PvE and PvP and that's what makes each unique. Just because in an operation you need a tank to hold agro on bosses and not have the entire raid group get globaled doesn't mean you need to run the same stat layout in a PvP environment since you aren't constantly taking in 30k+ hits from bosses and mechanics.

 

And just to get this through your head more: If your favorite DPS spec (let's say is Virulence) gets nerfed like in 5.3 and Lethal Shot is no longer better than SoS or Takedown, do you keep your rotation as it is (where you use Lethal Shot over SoS/Takedown) or do you change your rotation to now become more viable? Tanks in PvP should NEVER run full on absorption builds simply because it isn't more viable (****, it's not even close) than a skank tank setup.

 

TL;DR: Grow a pair and stop whining. Just because a role plays one way in PvE, doesn't mean it should be played the same in PvP.

[Caeliuxrules]

Have you ever played ranked in this game? Tank's doing damage is what decides battles. Players like Valek, Molra and Nightrain as tanks pull 4k+ DPS just like their DPS in their solo ranked/group ranked games is the deciding factor of how they are so high rated. Tank DPS has been the new meta since 4.0, some people are just late to the party i guess.

 

The new meta? Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Its a old meta from begining of ranked 4s. Its been common and used, just cause your premade do it dont mean other premades on other servers havent done it.

 

For once on this forum lets act like other people know a thing or 2, and Hottie and Doc bleed the same blood like rest of us.

 

I actually know the perfect counter to a dps tank healer combo.

 

Madness sorc and vir sniper pressure comp. What will that wannabe tank do when bled to death while heals in a hard swap stun?

 

Just takes right group to pressure that nonsense.

 

Anyways thanks for laugh today.

 

FIN

Edited July 30, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[Caeliuxrules]

yes i have and that not the point if tanks where ment to do dps they would not be called tanks and if your dps is competent the tanks dps is irrelevant. only tanks that think there dps matters is tanks that playing with bad dps.

 

But lets get 1 thing straight TANKS are TANKS there not ment to be DPS or to beable to kill things them selves. they ment to keep people alive and be meat shield. that why there called TANKS

 

just another reason why Tank ability , Taunt,Guard, and Shield Generators need to only usable by TANK SPEC this will fix the problem of dps trying to be tanks and tanks trying to be dps altest from the spec stand point, Same need to happen with Heals all heals Skills/Abilities need to usable only in heal spec.

 

To much role overlaping is why pvp is mess, among other things

 

This person gets it. ^

[Caeliuxrules]

This is just sad. People moaning and groaning because their beloved support roles are subpar in PvP since tank stats are completely 100% irrelevant in any PvP scenario and aren't even viable. **** ANYONE who is in their right minds would run a 208 geared sin DPS and have him guard than a full 248 mitigation or absorption tank just because you're practically a liability in a WZ. No damage at all compared to what it could be and your damage in barely changes at all unless you're getting an extra DCD or two from being a tank.

 

Face the facts. In ANY game, things are not meant to be played the same way in both PvE and PvP. That's what separates the two besides one being against NPCs and one being against other players. It's different scenarios, different environments, different encounters, different options between PvE and PvP and that's what makes each unique. Just because in an operation you need a tank to hold agro on bosses and not have the entire raid group get globaled doesn't mean you need to run the same stat layout in a PvP environment since you aren't constantly taking in 30k+ hits from bosses and mechanics.

 

And just to get this through your head more: If your favorite DPS spec (let's say is Virulence) gets nerfed like in 5.3 and Lethal Shot is no longer better than SoS or Takedown, do you keep your rotation as it is (where you use Lethal Shot over SoS/Takedown) or do you change your rotation to now become more viable? Tanks in PvP should NEVER run full on absorption builds simply because it isn't more viable (****, it's not even close) than a skank tank setup.

 

TL;DR: Grow a pair and stop whining. Just because a role plays one way in PvE, doesn't mean it should be played the same in PvP.

 

So basically we the people wanting this game balanced needs to grow a pair?

 

Seems little egotistical and self righteous to call people babies for wanting balance when people like you and others like inbalance specs and classes.

 

Kinda shallow in my opinion. What inbalance is good for how long, till it gets balanced then what happens?

 

Bordom?

Edited July 30, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[yellow_]

The dream aoe game.

Yea, had there been anyone good on the team playing an actual dps spec they would have done 10K for sure

I actually know the perfect counter to a dps tank healer combo.

 

Madness sorc and vir sniper pressure comp. What will that wannabe tank do when bled to death while heals in a hard swap stun?

lol Edited July 30, 2017 by yellow_

[Caeliuxrules]

lol

 

What so funny? Ive proven this countless times. Cant be any comp to deal with it. Back peddle. Cc. Kite. Dots. Bleed. Snare healer. Serious chase us. Wannabe tank dies. Just have your real tank and healer play well. GG.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[WayOfTheWarriorx]

Skank tank = a DPS Speced player who is guarding another player.

 

Doc was not "skank tanking" seeing how he was in tank spec and wearing DPS gear.

 

That is like saying a concealment operative and lethality operative are the same thing.

 

I know definitions can be hard.

 

Skank Tank means a tank spec wearing DPS gear [although it may be endurance heavy].

 

The fact is that unless they make tank stats applicable to PVP, there really isn't any point going full tank stats. All that will do is lower your damage potential while sacrificing very little in survivability. It's role breaking to be sure, and it really shouldn't be an option, but, you can't blame players for going that route, why wouldn't they skank tank?

 

Until they make tank stats viable, it'd be foolish not to go skank tank.

 

If they can fix the tank stats working properly in PVP than I say penalize tanks in dps gear through bolster, but, to be fair, they should be the only ones with the ability to use Guards.

 

All these DPS with guards is ridiculous. Everyone and there sister is guarded and it massively effects balancing. The group with more people guarded has a better chance right out of the gate.

 

Just more role breaking to add the mix.

Edited July 30, 2017 by WayOfTheWarriorx

[THAT_EPIC_GUY]

Skank tank = DPS spec utilising guard and behaving similarly to a tank. This is sort of a thing but not so much anymore since the removal of tank stances from DPS specs makes them very squishy when they play like this (though it still has some benefits in certain scenarios of course).

 

What Doc here is doing has been referred to as DPS tank; a tank spec focusing primarily on dealing damage.

 

With the evolution of the meta over the years the term DPS tank has pretty much been forgotten as it's pretty much standard tanking these days. The general populace however seems to still think tanks doing good DPS is an unusual thing and therefore like to give it some special name leading them to incorrectly label it skank tanking.

 

 

On the topic of the thread at hand; I'm glad stuff like this is being posted. People in this thread are saying that games like this are irrelevent and just number fluff etc. Doc is showing that even tank specs can deal very strong pressure damage; these stalemates occur almost exclusively due to DPS and tanks just being bad at keeping good uptime and rotation. If every player on his team had similar pressure output, that game would not be a healer turtlefest at all. Too many tanks in regs particularly run around stacking tank stats (which we all know are pretty trash due how crits work and how hard stuns work) and contribute to the boring stalemates we get. Too many tanks in PvP think their only job is to taunt and guardswap and that their damage doesn't matter when in reality it does.

[yellow_]

Skank tank = DPS spec utilising guard and behaving similarly to a tank. This is sort of a thing but not so much anymore since the removal of tank stances from DPS specs makes them very squishy when they play like this (though it still has some benefits in certain scenarios of course).

 

What Doc here is doing has been referred to as DPS tank; a tank spec focusing primarily on dealing damage.

 

With the evolution of the meta over the years the term DPS tank has pretty much been forgotten as it's pretty much standard tanking these days. The general populace however seems to still think tanks doing good DPS is an unusual thing and therefore like to give it some special name leading them to incorrectly label it skank tanking.

 

 

On the topic of the thread at hand; I'm glad stuff like this is being posted. People in this thread are saying that games like this are irrelevent and just number fluff etc. Doc is showing that even tank specs can deal very strong pressure damage; these stalemates occur almost exclusively due to DPS and tanks just being bad at keeping good uptime and rotation. If every player on his team had similar pressure output, that game would not be a healer turtlefest at all. Too many tanks in regs particularly run around stacking tank stats (which we all know are pretty trash due how crits work and how hard stuns work) and contribute to the boring stalemates we get. Too many tanks in PvP think their only job is to taunt and guardswap and that their damage doesn't matter when in reality it does.

thanks for your thoughtful (and accurate) response

 

but to be honest I've posted this mostly to be cheeky -- you can't reason with the people on this board

Edited July 30, 2017 by yellow_

[Caeliuxrules]

Skank Tank means a tank spec wearing DPS gear [although it may be endurance heavy].

 

The fact is that unless they make tank stats applicable to PVP, there really isn't any point going full tank stats. All that will do is lower your damage potential while sacrificing very little in survivability. It's role breaking to be sure, and it really shouldn't be an option, but, you can't blame players for going that route, why wouldn't they skank tank?

 

Until they make tank stats viable, it'd be foolish not to go skank tank.

 

If they can fix the tank stats working properly in PVP than I say penalize tanks in dps gear through bolster, but, to be fair, they should be the only ones with the ability to use Guards.

 

All these DPS with guards is ridiculous. Everyone and there sister is guarded and it massively effects balancing. The group with more people guarded has a better chance right out of the gate.

 

Just more role breaking to add the mix.

 

1. She has no idea ever, ms. know it all.

2. The people in ranked aint facing good enough players to deal with it.

3. In solo ranked it gets blown up.

4. Its garbage inbalance.

5. Its all Biowares fault.

 

FIN

Edited July 30, 2017 by Caeliuxrules

[Caeliuxrules]

Too many tanks in PvP think their only job is to taunt and guardswap and that their damage doesn't matter when in reality it does.

 

This right here is why people like you and others make complete utter post of nonsense. Its laughable.

 

Dps focus swap , cc, is DAMAGE.

Tank guard swaps, taunt, cc, PROTECTS.

Healer HEALS.

 

Tank should never worry about a kill. Ever. That is what a dps job is. Not a dps tank. Not a tank dps. Both of them are irelevent specs which bioware allows people to abuse atm.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Caeliuxrules