MVPddark Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Here is a legit question.... *** am i paying for... i go into gamestation to get this game coz my mate says its quite a fun mmo, to find that i am being asked to pay £45 for the game. Ok fine i can deal with that, new release title ect you expect to be paying £30 and up. However i then notice that you need to have an online subscription to play.... of £9 a month. So what have i paid £45 for? This game is made by a bunch of greedy *****s just like that of WoW. They arnt happy enough to make the millions out of you by selling the game alone, they have to go that 1 bit further and squeeze as much out of you as they possibly can. Think of games like Guildwars. Im sure most of you MMO fans will have played guildwars, and found that after paying your £20 for the game you dont have to pay any more and you get all content and updates absolutely free.. Why is it that they can do it and SWTOR cant? and its all down to greed. Tbh if your gunna expect people to pay to play the game then make the game itself free.. how can you charge some1 so much for a bunch of discs they cant use untill they pay you more. Before u all sit there going troll.. troll.. troll, think about it... what is that £9 a month ur paying actually buying you that the £45 you paid to get the game didnt.... ur not getting any benifits, any added content or anything like that just teh ability to play the game you already bought Edited December 28, 2011 by Vastalee inap content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBJammin Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Fortunately It's a choice to pay and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discotech Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ummm you try running a bunch of servers and paying service provides for hosting services each month in order for people to play. It's pretty standard for an MMO to charge a monthly fee because it is not free to keep those servers running. If you come from the FPS world then most servers you play on are also paid for by the server owners and cost money. Nothing comes free in this world, welcome to reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferathka Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It is a P2P (Pay to Play) MMO. You buy the game (software) and get your first intial month free. If you want to continue playing then after your first 30 days you have to pay a monthly fee. You pay montly for electirc, tv etc right....same thing. You want something....pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoXPCS Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'll give you a hint.. Alpha testing was free during the weekends.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketthesaurus Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 You are paying for the servers and the fact that they will be making new content. You are paying the initial fee for the fact that they took 4 years to make this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilPika Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Here is a legit question.... *** am i paying for... i go into gamestation to get this game coz my mate says its quite a fun mmo, to find that i am being asked to pay £45 for the game. Ok fine i can deal with that, new release title ect you expect to be paying £30 and up. However i then notice that you need to have an online subscription to play.... of £9 a month. So what have i paid £45 for? This game is made by a bunch of greedy *****s just like that of WoW. They arnt happy enough to make the millions out of you by selling the game alone, they have to go that 1 bit further and squeeze as much out of you as they possibly can. Think of games like Guildwars. Im sure most of you MMO fans will have played guildwars, and found that after paying your £20 for the game you dont have to pay any more and you get all content and updates absolutely free.. Why is it that they can do it and SWTOR cant? and its all down to greed. Tbh if your gunna expect people to pay to play the game then make the game itself free.. how can you charge some1 so much for a bunch of discs they cant use untill they pay you more. Before u all sit there going troll.. troll.. troll, think about it... what is that £9 a month ur paying actually buying you that the £45 you paid to get the game didnt.... ur not getting any benifits, any added content or anything like that just teh ability to play the game you already bought New to MMOs? The intial cost of the game is the initial purchase cost as you'd get with any game plus one month free. This covers the cost of the game's initial production, packaging too and all that crap. They NEED to make their initial investment back on the initial sales, otherwise they risk losing money if the game flops... You then pay the monthly fee for a number of things: Server costs Maintence costs Data storage Continued Development. (They don't pull those patches out of their arse) And please don't compare a full blown MMO to a game that was about as MMO as Diablo 2. I don't know where people get off spouting Guild Wars is an MMO. If it is, so is Diablo 2. It's a LOT cheaper to run, a LOT less players, a LOT less content and considerably little development being put into it. It's apples to oranges. Edited December 28, 2011 by Vastalee removed part of quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I paid for a product that was delivered to my liking. After the researching the game, watching the videos, reading the boards and being invited to the Beta test, I will say that I am happy with my purchase. Where does my money go? It goes to BioWare with the expectation that they will make the game better. Since I give it to them, it's up to them on how they spend the money on the game. If they do not make it better, I will probably not play it anymore. I'm funny like that. I've quit playing many games prior to playing this one, and I continue to play other games with TOR. Again, I'm funny like that. Moving forward, BioWare has free license to spend the money I give them in anyway they see fit for their product. I don't need them to open the books and show me what is going where, or which team in development is getting what, or even what decisions the teams and developers are making. Being a customer to their business, I will continue my business with them until such time I don't feel the need anymore. I'm certainly not knocking on the managers door at a restaurant asking to see the books and demanding what the chefs are developing for weekly dinners, I accept they either are or aren't, and I have zero input to their business practices. I offer them money for their product, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggletphyre Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Because oaying 65 euros for some **** console game you play for 3 hours is way better amirite? Edited December 28, 2011 by Wiggletphyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPddark Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) fact is there r games out there which r also mmo's that can do the same but for free, it seems that u all just like to throw ur mums money around without a thought of what ur actually doing with it lmao if hosting is so expensive then y is it that guildwars can let you play for free and give you content? And with other things you pay for you can buy the game and still play without having to pay a subscription.... most games come with an OPTIONAL fee that gives you added benifits, like with xbox.. you can still play the games you buy without having to pay to go online. like i said it comes down to greed. Edited December 28, 2011 by Vastalee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docyrian Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Obviously you've never played a big time MMO before....and CLEARLY don't understand what it takes to maintain such a massive game with a massive player base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selaik Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Dude, don't get mad because you have no idea about MMO's , get some knowledge and then talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWoad Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ummm you try running a bunch of servers and paying service provides for hosting services each month in order for people to play. It's pretty standard for an MMO to charge a monthly fee because it is not free to keep those servers running. If you come from the FPS world then most servers you play on are also paid for by the server owners and cost money. Nothing comes free in this world, welcome to reality What about F2P MMOs how do they keep them running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisamcnicholas Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What about F2P MMOs how do they keep them running? Pay to win cash shops, usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scfs Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ummm you try running a bunch of servers and paying service provides for hosting services each month in order for people to play. It's pretty standard for an MMO to charge a monthly fee because it is not free to keep those servers running. If you come from the FPS world then most servers you play on are also paid for by the server owners and cost money. Nothing comes free in this world, welcome to reality Guild wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoL-K-Noob Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What about F2P MMOs how do they keep them running? Heavily instanced/terrible graphics/etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisamcnicholas Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Guild wars. Guild wars also releases content patch quality "expansions" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxnoah Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It is a service, they can charge whatever they want, if you think it is too expensive just dont play. IMO i think $15 is pretty honest, geez is a month of fun for the price of a movie ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilPika Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Guild wars. In fairness, Guild Wars is as much an MMO is as Diablo 2. That is to say 'bearly'. It's easy to run servers when your instanced zones are ran P2P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gankdalf_ Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Here is a legit question.... *** am i paying for... i go into gamestation to get this game coz my mate says its quite a fun mmo, to find that i am being asked to pay £45 for the game. Ok fine i can deal with that, new release title ect you expect to be paying £30 and up. However i then notice that you need to have an online subscription to play.... of £9 a month. So what have i paid £45 for? This game is made by a bunch of greedy *****s just like that of WoW. They arnt happy enough to make the millions out of you by selling the game alone, they have to go that 1 bit further and squeeze as much out of you as they possibly can. Think of games like Guildwars. Im sure most of you MMO fans will have played guildwars, and found that after paying your £20 for the game you dont have to pay any more and you get all content and updates absolutely free.. Why is it that they can do it and SWTOR cant? and its all down to greed. Tbh if your gunna expect people to pay to play the game then make the game itself free.. how can you charge some1 so much for a bunch of discs they cant use untill they pay you more. Before u all sit there going troll.. troll.. troll, think about it... what is that £9 a month ur paying actually buying you that the £45 you paid to get the game didnt.... ur not getting any benifits, any added content or anything like that just teh ability to play the game you already bought SMD YOU GREEDY FAT **** Don't worry I can assure you this game will be free to play before the end of 2012, it's not a proper mmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talosred Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Heavily instanced/terrible graphics/etc.. And don't most have a pay for perks system or bonus content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnetikjakhammer Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 to answer your question TC, we all were tricked into paying the actors/celebrities next payday for minimul work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itose Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 And please don't compare a full blown MMO to a game that was about as MMO as Diablo 2. I don't know where people get off spouting Guild Wars is an MMO. If it is, so is Diablo 2. It's a LOT cheaper to run, a LOT less players, a LOT less content and considerably little development being put into it. It's apples to oranges. I certainly hope you are not serious. Guild Wars has a TON of content and at its peak had A LOT of players, it also had regular expansion packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xploits Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 fact is there r games out there which r also mmo's that can do the same but for free, it seems that u all just like to throw ur mums money around without a thought of what ur actually doing with it lmao if hosting is so expensive then y is it that guildwars can let you play for free and give you content? And with other things you pay for you can buy the game and still play without having to pay a subscription.... most games come with an OPTIONAL fee that gives you added benifits, like with xbox.. you can still play the games you buy without having to pay to go online. like i said it comes down to greed.. and by the looks of it u lot r all stupid enough to go along with it lmao maybe when ur old enough to have jobs you'l understand where im coming from GW ( and by extension GW2) is supported by NCsoft. They were if you will the MMO champs for the longest time. On top of that they have several successful franchise, existing server space, and an existing F2P model, which involves micro transaction to get gimmicky things. Take a look at WOW, the only reason they can do think like offer D3 for free with a full year of subscription is because the WOW subsidization. This is Bioware first MMO, backed by EA who is normally associated with FPS and Sports. I think this game is spectacular for an initial release and 15$ a month is worth support another player in the MMO scene especially Bioware whom seem to remeber games have stories to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilPika Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 All that's been said is that its needed to maintain the game... explain how f2p games can do the same, as well as games like Guildwars that can do all this without charging? Like i said if your happy to sit there paying out for nothing then great thumbs up to you, but one day when you earn your own money, you might start to stop and think about where its actually going... F2P games don't exist. There is Freemium, Sales Revenue, 'Expansion' pack or box sales that create revenue. I know full well where my money is going, it's going toward the development of patches and new content that BW have already said will be released weekly (Every Tuesday). The content you get in so called "F2P" games that is hyped up and spends months in development is delivered in a quarter of the time in a title like this, with vastly more polish and much more varied content. The stuff you'll be palmed off with as a so called "Expansion" is a minor content patch in a traditional MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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