As a former hater, I really appreciate bioware at the very least giving us 30 days for free. That's the 1st step in gaining my trust back. After fully experiencing 1.2 and the stuff they did with it, I'm more confident my money is going to a good cause when I see them do stuff like this, but that free month REALLY did it. I've never seen any other company do that before, bravo bioware.

woah dude, you're WAY too angry. I don't think it's ANYONE'S agenda that is 50 to transfer from a pve to pvp server with even the slightest intention of ganking low level players.

I don't know what it is either, but it bothers the hell out of me. You don't ever see this in ANY other gaming community. The only logical conclusion I can come to is just: that's how bioware fans are...anti-social. They like socializing and conversing with npcs with the 1-2-3 keys instead of human beings.

hahaha, this guy thinks im exagggerating how many times i get stunned. Do you play a healer? Just curious, because if not, then you have no idea.

But anyway, people should be using their interrupts and other forms of cc, but instead they all that PLUS a stun. This is just ridiculous. I would like to know the reasoning behind giving every single class every possibilty possible.

why does EVERY single class have a stun? I can tell you right now that any dps spec does not deserve a stun. They should be limited to only tank and heal specd players. I can't tell you how many times I'd had to break one stun only to have 7 more chain stuns thrown at me.

I wouldn't count on it. remember that train they talked about?? yeah....I wouldn't expect much from bioware after that fail marketing ploy.

yet when you pretty much abandon attention to player issues that are the fault of the game design, to cater to people who haven't paid a single penny and never intended to, then yes....there should be something to make up for the bad decision of pushing your paying customers off to the side. I guarantee you the people who ultimately got fed up and left the game wouldn't had left if bioware had taken more initiative and show they are consistantly trying to fix the game. And no, pushing off an update just to squeeze out another month or 2 worth of subs out of people is sad, pathetic, and embarassing.

oh you mean those little things that you can show off to the 10 people on the republic fleet that don't care? Nah, I mean real big boy stuff. Stuff that shakes things up a bit, but not too much i.e. server transfers for just my main like i stated before, or maybe a free month(or half month), I dunno, get creative....they're a multi million dollar company, I'm sure they can come up with something unique.

like this $20 off DE, 2 free weekends in a row, 7 day trial if you know someone who plays the game. When will the players paying bioware actually get some attention and a little extra "thank you" benefit for sticking with them? Personally, I'd be happy with just a simple free server transfer for my main.

I'm not here to have this debate. There are 100 other topics to do that in. Fine okay, the game itself may not be dying, but the servers sure are. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you, that's a fact and everyone(with the exception of the rare few) will come in here and agree with me on that point with their own personal experiences. If it took them this many years to produce this little content, I just don't see how they can put out enough content at the rate to keep it alive(even if it goes f2p) for 10 years.

Just looking at this objectively, how can they possibly think that they'll last for 10 years when they're already struggling this hard not even 6 months into the game? Even to this date in time, wow has not lived for 10 years, and that game is pretty much on the decline if not over.

Nah, I'm a consular, and he's pretty much right. Even WITH the dots and cc, and mana regen ability, i dont even fully fill up my 2 center action bars(mainly because i drop the absolutely useless abilities) I use maybe 10-12 abilities at most, and that's to cover every situation possible as long as other people are doing their job. Healing is easy, and with the lack of people, and soooooo many people rollings sages, I've decides to switch servers and play a tank for a new challenge. So far I've played 16 levels of a vanguard trooper, and I haven't looked back at my boring sage since.

Yep. I'm a huge gamer, and gaming is a big part of my life, but after experiencing swtor, I actually think I hate games now. What a huge massive letdown...I just can't get excited for anything gaming related anymore after this huge flop called swtor.

use another e-mail address. I did it and I HAVE a subscription.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just looking at the facts. The facts are: that paying subscribers big patch for being so loyal and paying them for 2 months now(at least) has been pushed back(meaning we will probably have to pay them a 3rd month to finally see the updates), and people who has no intention of taking a risk(like the original purchasers of the game) and buying this game get a free pass 2 weekends in a row to play the game for free. When have subscribers EVER got a break like that? LIke I said, I only deal with facts. Not assumptions, or theories, or speculations.

joke! freeloaders get a free experience to try out swtor without having to pay a penny. When did subscribers EVER get a deal that good? Not even deluxe editions were worth the extra 20 bucks, now this game is being given out for FREE??? Oh and what do subscribers get in return? Oh we're gonna push back that patch a few more weeks and make you renew your sub if you want to experience the new updates. Couldn't be more of a slap in the face to active subscribers.

oh that's right, subscribers benefit by getting their fixes and new content patch pushed back.....

So new players get to see what this game is like 1st hand, while paying customers get to see server population go up, and we cant even talk to them because they cant chat unless they're next to you using /say and they're all on starter planets. So how to subscribers benefit again? While free-loaders get a free experience to an mmo without having to take the risk that the 1st group of players took when they bought this game?

when you deliberately push back content and fixes for PAYING customers to handout the game for free basically to people who had no intention of buying this game in the 1st place, well then that's BEYOND TERRIBLE business.

instead of opening your new MMO to a bunch of free-loaders? How can you justify taking 15 bucks from active subscribers to push off major patches to better the game and keep them playing, and then basically giving this game out for free to people who aren't loyal to your game? So do active subscribers get a free ANYTHING?(a week, 2 weeks, a months maybe for being so loyal?)

Bumping it up

You didn't really prove anything, so you're welcome I guess? All you've done is shown everyone that you look up what people post in the past and try to attack them because of it. You're more annoying than this "troll" you try to make me out to be. Anyway good day sir, anything further you post in MY topic WILL be flagged and reported.

It's to point out that mmos have been out for a while and we become more and more advanced throughout the years. Do I honestly need to be explaining this? I thought this community was sharp enough to catch things like that without having them need to be spelled out.

What good is that feedback if you don't implement it? Or in a more extreme case, blame the community for your own game's faults