AlCorazon Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Madness causes a lot of pain tbh... probably strongest dot damage in the game ...while sin on hist dot spec are useless unles u are very well with the rotation, madness sorc from 30m can give you a lot of pain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Madness causes a lot of pain tbh... probably strongest dot damage in the game ...while sin on hist dot spec are useless unles u are very well with the rotation, madness sorc from 30m can give you a lot of pain... Madness sorc can still do well on the scoreboard in regs but if you don't understand why madness sorc is currently UP then you don't understand pvp (universal you btw ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Madness sorc can still do well on the scoreboard in regs but if you don't understand why madness sorc is currently UP then you don't understand pvp (universal you btw ). dotspecs in general are pretty poopy when in a trinity comp atm, it's not just madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 dotspecs in general are pretty poopy when in a trinity comp atm, it's not just madness Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Sorc dps is fine: http://imgur.com/a/gkGOC 6 healers.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz that must have been extremely boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeugues Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 6 healers.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz that must have been extremely boring. Yes it was, I pretty much just stood in one spot and attacked a healer, essentially just doing the PVE rotation. I don't think I had to force barrier or PW at all, I did however have to use consuming darkness a few times lol. Edited February 7, 2017 by Romeugues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Honestly, I just want them to leave Sorcerers alone. The whiners got what they wanted and the FOTM rollers have moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Sage/Sorcs DPS is very low. It's bad in pve and pvp. With 5.0 Lightning and Madness have been nerfed pretty hard. I spent so many tokens to create lvl 60 sorcs in 4.0 and now I feel like I wasted my money. Please EA/Bioware give us a chance to play NiP raids as DPS Sorcs/Sages in 5.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocGamer Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I agree completely. As a DPS sorc/sage you get utterly laughed at and asked if your trolling/throwing if you try to queue up for solo ranked. The dps is about 1k under Merc/Snipers/Maras in PVE ops groups. The class has been pigeonholed into having to do SM ops and WZ's. Why there is such a class unbalance right now is beyond me and it needs to be fixed. It's just shameful and lazy on the developer's part not to balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risk Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Agree Completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warforever Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sorc was my main. I miss my sorc. However lightning sorc is viable in Raids. if you know how to play it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sorc dps is very low. Ppl don't want to do NiM with sorcs dps . Buff it or many ppl will leave the game. Sorc/sage is a very good looking class. I would never switch to merc/sniper. Please Bioware buff sorc dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottffsse Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Sage/Sorcs DPS is very low. It's bad in pve and pvp. With 5.0 Lightning and Madness have been nerfed pretty hard. I spent so many tokens to create lvl 60 sorcs in 4.0 and now I feel like I wasted my money. Please EA/Bioware give us a chance to play NiP raids as DPS Sorcs/Sages in 5.2. You should post in general discussion as Bioware hardly pays attention here, maybe there. With solid evidence (dps charts/ raid statistics) to show your point. Lightning/ Tele is still ok if you know how to bug (which is still unfortunate)...you can go to and at about 9k dps with lightning/ tele. Madness / balance is another story...you can hardly get over 8k in bis gear with it and very very slow ramp up time with the dot application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verfallen Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 You should post in general discussion as Bioware hardly pays attention here, maybe there. With solid evidence (dps charts/ raid statistics) to show your point. Lightning/ Tele is still ok if you know how to bug (which is still unfortunate)...you can go to and at about 9k dps with lightning/ tele. Madness / balance is another story...you can hardly get over 8k in bis gear with it and very very slow ramp up time with the dot application. tought that bug had been fixed, pretty sure someone reported they weren't bugging anymore at start of 5.0 at least. And you can be sure BW is aware of where sorc dps is, and they frankly dont care. Even if you arrived with a 212 page report with nice little color graphic and all and send it to the dev, it wouldnt change anything. At one point in a given xpac cycle they do a rebalance, but its normally mostly nerfs, very rarely buffs. For the next one I expect mercs are going to be nerfbatted into the ground as far as their defensive goes (and they actually might nerf their damage as well, because even if its not the issue, they like going overboard) and possibly sniper's self-heal. Then they sometimes shuffle around some utilities, change a few triggers there and there, and call it a day. So sorc won't get better, altough a class MAY get worst than sorc is (like 4.0 sending MM snipers under lightning, which was workable. Masochism, but workable). However, at least in 4.0 madness did pretty fine. Its not IMPOSSIBLE that they'd do something smart and revert the DoT damage nerf or something, but I wouldnt hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottffsse Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Yeah to be OK (and I say OK not even great dps) in NiM you should be doing over 9k on dummy. Because you know in a actual boss fight you will still probably loose at least 1k dps due to mechanics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I would agree. Nerf the bubble absorb amount a bit, and add it back as a passive for heal spec. Then remove the HOT and have that only for heal spec then increase damage on DPS spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Buff it please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramm Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 agreed let bioware know how we feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayamothrawn Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 My pretty much naked Op (seriously, I didn't even have implants) at lvl21 doles out more crit dmg then my tier 3 sorc with BiS in Implants/Earpiece and Relics. That can't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Thank you for your support my friends. I hope they do something about it. All we want is to be usefull in HM and NIM as DPS. Edited February 25, 2017 by BraverDre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayamothrawn Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 A guild mate today said that the devs mentioned they'll look at making sorcs viable again come 5.2 Can anyone confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) I can't confirm it.. it would be awesome if they do bring the life back to poor sorcerer dpsers FOR THOSE WHO SAYS SORC DPS IS OK TAKE A LOOK AT AVG DMG http://parsely.io/parser/stats -13.82 AND -9.67 TWO DPS SPECS ARE TRASH Edited February 28, 2017 by BraverDre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraverDre Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 http://parsely.io/parser/stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just spec to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadagyt Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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