Nebdar Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 They are back.... seen one on republic Fleet... and ofc Ord Mantel bott trainers.. reported but still it was fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThEeLcOnDoR Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Hey folks, As you may know from previous posts on the topic, when it comes to credit sellers we will often do a large takedown at one time. This allows us to have the largest impact on the credit sellers without them being able to react. Today was one of those instances. With today's maintenance we acted on a few different initiatives to help curb the in-game chat and mail spam of credit sellers. Some examples of what was done today include: Banning of thousands of credit selling accounts.Closing a loophole in an existing promotion, that allowed credit sellers to quickly and easily make accounts which could send you in-game mail and access the fleet.Made adjustments to some existing automated functions to better catch credit sellers.And more... (we don't want to reveal everything we are doing to the credit sellers ) Keep in mind that when it comes to catching credit sellers, as we make adjustments, so do they. It is a constant game of cat and mouse, but it is one that we will continue to focus on aggressively. For this reason, it is important that you continue to always report these spammers and credit sellers as you see them. I know sometimes it seems like we aren't taking action, but I promise that your reports are critical in our ability to find and take action against credit sellers. -eric In regards to the actual purchasing of credits, perhaps this has already been spoken about, asked and answered, but I just have not seen it. Say a person actually grinds and obtains millions and millions of credits. His friend comes along and says "Hey man, could I buy like 3 million off you for a few bucks?" And the person agrees and the transaction happens. As those credits were obtained by actually working hard and grinding, and it was a personal trade, is that still a violation?? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 In regards to the actual purchasing of credits, perhaps this has already been spoken about, asked and answered, but I just have not seen it. Say a person actually grinds and obtains millions and millions of credits. His friend comes along and says "Hey man, could I buy like 3 million off you for a few bucks?" And the person agrees and the transaction happens. As those credits were obtained by actually working hard and grinding, and it was a personal trade, is that still a violation?? Thanks!! Credits are not worth much in the way of real money these days. So the 3 million scenario you present is kind of pointless, other then to make a strawman as to what might go unnoticed. Given their capability to track such transfer via their analytics, I personally would never do anything that allowed me to directly move/transfer credits from one account to another. Technically, players can barter between themselves anyway they want in game as long as it does not use out of game assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Nice! Just make sure you keep being the cat in this analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 They make me tear out my hair whenever someone suggests them, I know that. Regexps are no "magic bullet" for antispam. They certainly helps a lot, especially if they are client side customizable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThEeLcOnDoR Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Credits are not worth much in the way of real money these days. So the 3 million scenario you present is kind of pointless, other then to make a strawman as to what might go unnoticed. Given their capability to track such transfer via their analytics, I personally would never do anything that allowed me to directly move/transfer credits from one account to another. Technically, players can barter between themselves anyway they want in game as long as it does not use out of game assets. Still, I would like the final answer from the Devs, just to clarify and be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanArgent Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Still, I would like the final answer from the Devs, just to clarify and be sure. It's a violation of the TOS. OTOH, if the person with the money bought CM packs, and then sold you those packs, no problem. Basically, BW/EA wants the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deewe Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Still, I would like the final answer from the Devs, just to clarify and be sure. Don't expect an answer but maybe against the rules. Otherwise it would open the door for many troubles. Ex: lets say you give the credits and your friend doesn't pays or (s)he pays and you don't transfer the credits. Trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Still, I would like the final answer from the Devs, just to clarify and be sure. Read what I stated. Here.. let me be more blunt..... IF.. you exchange credits for real money or other real assets, you are in violation of the ToS/EULA. Read the ToS/EULA... as there is no reason for the studio to confirm yet again for you what they have already put in their terms and conditions of access to the game. Edited October 6, 2016 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyaniteD Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) IDK, it seems to have gotten worse. https://goo.gl/photos/YCjEfcteERKqR9yx8 https://goo.gl/photos/nX43newgwP5Xru6P9 I thought something like that would be auto-squelched pretty fast, but it's going on and on.... Edited October 6, 2016 by KyaniteD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbralSpirit Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 They are back.... seen one on republic Fleet... and ofc Ord Mantel bott trainers.. reported but still it was fast Fast? You must be joking, it seems the gold farmers are loosing their edge it took them almost 24 hours to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krfsm Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 In regards to the actual purchasing of credits, perhaps this has already been spoken about, asked and answered, but I just have not seen it. Say a person actually grinds and obtains millions and millions of credits. His friend comes along and says "Hey man, could I buy like 3 million off you for a few bucks?" And the person agrees and the transaction happens. As those credits were obtained by actually working hard and grinding, and it was a personal trade, is that still a violation?? Thanks!! From the rules of conduct: "To keep the Service a compliant, fun, fair and safe gaming environment for everyone, you may not engage in any of the following behavior: [...] Buy, sell, transfer or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) , or offer to transfer, sell or auction, or buy or accept any offer to transfer, sell or auction, any game Account or game Content, including (without limitation) game characters, character attributes, items, objects, currency, credits or copyrighted material, or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by the Services, or its our licensors, without first obtaining our express written permission, nor may you encourage or induce any other player to participate in such prohibited transaction(s)." No written permission - breach of the rules. Besides, how do you think the credit sellers got their credits if not by grinding (or buying them from someone who did grinding)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_mike Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Besides, how do you think the credit sellers got their credits if not by grinding (or buying them from someone who did grinding)? I'm still holding out for some sort of dupe bug. I've noticed new listers on the GTN who are listing dozens of stacks of rare materials in 2k lots. edit: I've given out a million credits a few times this year to random folks. Never had an issue. Edited October 6, 2016 by dr_mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekbro Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'm still holding out for some sort of dupe bug. I've noticed new listers on the GTN who are listing dozens of stacks of rare materials in 2k lots. edit: I've given out a million credits a few times this year to random folks. Never had an issue. Which rare materials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talchia Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I'm still holding out for some sort of dupe bug. I've noticed new listers on the GTN who are listing dozens of stacks of rare materials in 2k lots. edit: I've given out a million credits a few times this year to random folks. Never had an issue. It's more like we all have to get rid of the materials because they are obsolete with KotET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It's more like we all have to get rid of the materials because they are obsolete with KotET. Very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minerva Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Does this mean you guys took care of the bots on yavin that run around getting all the slicing nodes. I mean I was hunting them down and some of them have been running around since January, which is kinda ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakinik Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 If you took them out they rather love to spam still on fleet and the start planets Blak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEnrique Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 There are still bots on Yavin 4. ***?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanaussie Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Cheers! Thanks for posting this. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RswanBing Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Gold seller situation is not getting any better, even worse as someone said before, adds posted every 10 seconds on the fleet general chat on my server, and it was 5 minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbralSpirit Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 There are still bots on Yavin 4. ***?! Not really, i farm slicing and archeology nodes myself there 2-3 times a week and i haven't seen any Invisible players/Non Aggro drawing companion gatherers in a while. That guy talking about Yavin bots is probably one of those who are taking EVERYONE who dares gathering slicing nodes for a bot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriksarcasm Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Not really, i farm slicing and archeology nodes myself there 2-3 times a week and i haven't seen any Invisible players/Non Aggro drawing companion gatherers in a while. That guy talking about Yavin bots is probably one of those who are taking EVERYONE who dares gathering slicing nodes for a bot. They're there, there's not as many of them as there were a while ago, but they're around. They're competing for nodes with you now instead of dominating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbralSpirit Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 They're there, there's not as many of them as there were a while ago, but they're around. They're competing for nodes with you now instead of dominating. If they are there i don't know what they are doing but they surley aren't going after slicing nodes i was on Yavin today for arround 2 hours and the only "competition" i had during that time where 2 peeps who did the kills for the dailies and picked up some nodes on the way, basically i had like 98% of all nodes for myself. When the bot's where arround i didn't even get 20% of them as they where magicaly dissapearing right in front of me no matter the time of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Android Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 If they are there i don't know what they are doing but they surley aren't going after slicing nodes i was on Yavin today for arround 2 hours and the only "competition" i had during that time where 2 peeps who did the kills for the dailies and picked up some nodes on the way, basically i had like 98% of all nodes for myself. When the bot's where arround i didn't even get 20% of them as they where magicaly dissapearing right in front of me no matter the time of day. This is my first and only MMO, I don't really understand what a 'bot is or how it works...I am assuming it is some kind of automated program that runs parallel to SWTOR and does, what....move the toon to an x/y coordinate and presses the key related to harvesting nodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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