HuaRya Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 With the new Light vs Dark event many new pilots are taking to the skies. Some brilliant battles have been happening with very close matches. Until the old 5 mastered ship premades on VOIP showed up. My question to you guys: Why not show us how good you really are and start a new GSF toon for the event. Why turn away all these potential new people to GSF by bringing out your maxed geared ships with grouped premade? It should be refreshing to start a new ship and dog fight with the other plebes. Big deal if you don't get your normal 24 kills in your gunship. Seeing that same grouped 4/8 team with a wall of gunships may get you a few stomping matches in the short term but when GSF dries up again don't complain as your Q times go back to 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danalon Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) That was my best performance on a stock ship. We also had a thread about that topic some time ago. Maybe by now more people have some screenshots of battles in new ships to post. By the way, not every good group is a premade and vice versa. Also, whenever I group with someone, tactics are rarely discussed in VoIP. Edited July 2, 2016 by Danalon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greezt Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) I rolled a new toon, for two reasons - the main one was the event, and a secondary one was that I wanted to improve with my Condor skills. Here's one result (thanks to Vexxial for a giving me a rundown of his usage!). In case you are interested in upgrades: LC 1st, slug 1st, clusters 1st, directionals 1st, retros 2nd, range capacitor 0, regeneration extender 0, large reactor 0, turning thrusters 0. (Edit: crewmembers are stock, except C2-N2 whom I got from my story missions). The point is that, while premades can be frustrating and they certainly can kill queues, solo queuers will do well against new players no matter their ships and upgrades. It's very frustrating to die to ionspam repeatedly, or burst/pods out of spawn, but I don't see how rolling a new toon will help with this. As a side note, I quit a couple of matches (on this toon) today after running into a premade of self-destructers on my team. Not all newcomers are good news. Edited July 2, 2016 by Greezt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavivsAetivs Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I have a new toon on JC but you'll just have to find out who it is... ~ Eudoxia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximilianPower Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Why not show us how good you really are and start a new GSF toon for the event. Why turn away all these potential new people to GSF by bringing out your maxed geared ships with grouped premade? Sure. Actually I roll new toons all the time, and in fact I did that just for this silly event. Here's one such result, bone stock, solo queued. Fleet Admiral Ranken couldn't quite carry that team, but did OK nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakhathKilrathi Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Pretty sure stock ships only slow me down a little bit. Especially if all the new players are stock, too. I probably could've cleared 20 kills if not for the other guy on my team who managed more than ten. Haven't tried in a while, because why would I? I don't have anything left to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aakrea Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 This one is my 3rd match, after the first one I used the 5k req to buy the T3 GS and equipped BLC after the 2nd. My second ship will be the T1 bomber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo_Yeung Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Pretty sure stock ships only slow me down a little bit. Still your firstdamage/warning to kill time gets considerably longer. That changes perception of your victim.Someone just exploding in 0,5sec will be more discouraged than someone that was destroyed after 2-3 seconds of constant damage... Your ion rail hits will drain less energy, and won't leave ships as a sitting duck. etc. etc. Personally, when I see a bunch of people doing a lamerball against team of newbs... well I suppose swearing isnt; allowed on this forum. Maybe they just want GSF to die from lack of fresh blood... Of course some people won't make new chars (because they like the opportunity of improving their beloved statistics). Some others wo't do it because they don't want to be farmed (and before you will say that skill > gear,.. flying in a stock ship against mastered ship will end only one way when both pilots are 'good'...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximilianPower Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Still your firstdamage/warning to kill time gets considerably longer. That changes perception of your victim.Someone just exploding in 0,5sec will be more discouraged than someone that was destroyed after 2-3 seconds of constant damage... Your ion rail hits will drain less energy, and won't leave ships as a sitting duck. etc. etc. This, actually, is a good point. New folks understandably get discouraged when they're 1-shot...or, rather, when they feel like they've been 1-shot, when in reality they were hit multiple times (BLC + pods, two GS on the same target, whatever). That's still going to happen, but in general TTK is of course a bit longer when you're using a stock ship. So perhaps those few extra seconds of life give the victim just a little more time to actually fly around and get some practice flying/evading/shooting, rather than simply waiting for respawn. Again. The flip side of this is that I've noticed many matches are dragging on longer than pre-DvL. Lots of TDM timeouts, for example. Feels like more than usual. Anyone else experience this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavivsAetivs Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I've noticed a lot of longer matches too. ~ Eudoxia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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