blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm really tired of everyone leaving as soon as we get it and having to re-queue and wait another 30+ minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I'm really tired of everyone leaving as soon as we get it and having to re-queue and wait another 30+ minutes Simply de-select it from your FP list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Simply de-select it from your FP list. you dont get the daily reward if you do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveColoSp Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Simply de-select it from your FP list. Would be the easiest way to solve not getting it but if you do that then you lose out on the daily reward for a random FP as it would no longer be random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) you dont get the daily reward if you do that Life is full of hard choices, isn't it? I almost never queue for HMs. When I want to do the weekly, I 2-man Ilum 3 times. Easy peasy. Edited April 4, 2016 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Life is full of hard choices, isn't it? I almost never queue for HMs. When I want to do the weekly, I 2-man Ilum 3 times. Easy peasy. grats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 grats And somehow I manage to survive. You are simply another precious snowflake who wants the game to be changed to solve what you view as a problem. You have your choices: queue for everything so you can get the daily and "risk" the group folding if it's an undesired FP or queue without the offending FPs selected and forego the daily. Decisions, decisions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 And somehow I manage to survive. You are simply another precious snowflake who wants the game to be changed to solve what you view as a problem. You have your choices: queue for everything so you can get the daily and "risk" the group folding if it's an undesired FP or queue without the offending FPs selected and forego the daily. Decisions, decisions ... im not sure how im a special snowflake when like half the playerbase agrees that something needs to be done about HM Rishi but go ahead and keep projecting irrelevant stuff to get your post count up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 im not sure how im a special snowflake when like half the playerbase agrees "Half the playerbase." Do tell. that something needs to be done about HM Rishi Yes, what "needs" to happen is that people either do it, drop group, or don't queue for it. I myself have never successfully done it, but people I am inclined to think are not lying say they have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 "Half the playerbase." Do tell. Yes, what "needs" to happen is that people either do it, drop group, or don't queue for it. I myself have never successfully done it, but people I am inclined to think are not lying say they have done it. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=868830 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwarzchild Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 People who dip out on Rishi need to have some faith in themselves and dive in. It's absolutely the best flashpoint in the game at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 People who dip out on Rishi need to have some faith in themselves and dive in. It's absolutely the best flashpoint in the game at the moment. im completely okay with at least trying to do it, even despite the fact that the average pug has like 63k Hp but it seems like people just dont even bother anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=868830 I counted roughly 30 unique posters in that thread. If that is half the player base, the game really is in trouble. Edited April 4, 2016 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Would be the easiest way to solve not getting it but if you do that then you lose out on the daily reward for a random FP as it would no longer be random. Deselecting one shouldn't eliminate them as being a part of the reward. As long as 50%+ are marked, I think it should still count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Is that thread supposed to be indicative of "half the playerbase?" are we going to argue semantics now? the point is that you said i was a special snowflake when clearly that's not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyFlynn Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I totally read Bran's first comment in Ursula's voice.. oy. >.> http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=868830 Why didn't you just add your opinion there instead of making a new thread here? And 55 posts of which I'm sure some are counterpoints and repeated posters is far from "half the playerbase". BoR can be a lot of fun if people had the will and patience to get thru it together instead of throwing in the towel at the start. Still, I'm sure it's not so crippling that it hinders you on a daily basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 are we going to argue semantics now? the point is that you said i was a special snowflake when clearly that's not the case Because the game can only have 1 precious snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Deselecting one shouldn't eliminate them as being a part of the reward. As long as 50%+ are marked, I think it should still count. considering how many FP's there are, they should let each person pick 1 FP to 'block' though that still leaves False Emperor HM and its bugged to hell and back first boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 are we going to argue semantics now? the point is that you said i was a special snowflake when clearly that's not the case There's nothing special about being called a snowflake by Bran... that's his go-to thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 I totally read Bran's first comment in Ursula's voice.. oy. >.> Why didn't you just add your opinion there instead of making a new thread here? And 55 posts of which I'm sure some are counterpoints and repeated posters is far from "half the playerbase". BoR can be a lot of fun if people had the will and patience to get thru it together instead of throwing in the towel at the start. Still, I'm sure it's not so crippling that it hinders you on a daily basis? tbh its because I just seached it now, after the fact and i never said it was crippling, its just annoying to have to re-queue and wait another 30+ mins because people dont even want to bother with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollokdamus Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 im not sure how im a special snowflake when like half the playerbase agrees that something needs to be done about HM Rishi but go ahead and keep projecting irrelevant stuff to get your post count up Just ignore that guy, he has been doing nothing but trolling this board since forever. On topic, yeah, If the vast majority of players tend to leave as soon as they set foot in a certain FP than there's a problem which should be solved. It would also be nice if the FP group didn't disband when there's only one member left so the said member could actually reform the group by putting himself back in the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyFlynn Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just ignore that guy, he has been doing nothing but trolling this board since forever. On topic, yeah, If the vast majority of players tend to leave as soon as they set foot in a certain FP than there's a problem which should be solved. It would also be nice if the FP group didn't disband when there's only one member left so the said member could actually reform the group by putting himself back in the queue. That would be helpful yeah. I rarely do HMs, perhaps the occasional Tactical while leveling but that usually proves to be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) tbh its because I just seached it now, after the fact and i never said it was crippling, its just annoying to have to re-queue and wait another 30+ mins because people dont even want to bother with it That's their choice. How often does it happen to you? I guarantee you it happens less than once a day, probably less than once a week. In essence you are saying "Make this change because the way it works now annoys me (and 30 others)." Edited April 4, 2016 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksarevok Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) That's their choice. How often does it happen to you? I guarantee you it happens less than once a day, probably less than once a week. In essence you are saying "Make this change because the way it works now annoys me (and 30 others)." i dont know if you are new here, but a good portion of balance changes in MMOs are based on player feedback. in fact, part of the reasons forums exist is to provide feedback. whining about people having opinions seems a bit childish, doesnt it? at this point im not even sure what you're point is either, other than arguing for the sake of arguing Edited April 4, 2016 by blacksarevok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwarzchild Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 im completely okay with at least trying to do it, even despite the fact that the average pug has like 63k Hp but it seems like people just dont even bother anymore I'd caution against judging players based on hp. The one thing I could agree is that the bonus boss could get tuned down. I haven't tried mokan in 4.0 but in 3.0 I found that sucker to be a good challenge and far above regular pug groups level of skill. I think most people probably struggle with the adds on the final walker and sure they can be nerfed a little bit. It's a really simple fight though so I couldn't say either way what is best. Needing a nerf on it seems ok it's not a lose lose situation at all. If a nerf gets people to play it more I'd be for it. It's such a good instance overall that it's really a shame people aren't playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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