JourrnoRush Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 They don't listen; EA/BW just felt the loss of revenue as players realized the new packs are not worth the expenditure and the packs are selling poorly in game. BW needs to do a complete U-turn and change the packs back to the way they were before the bright ideas club got hold of them. It was most likely EA's idea. BW are just the poor messengers. I guarantee BW would love to say no to a lot of stuff (I'm hoping anyways) but they have to because they are EA's property. One poster responded perfectly though... Group content: Low priority Cartel Market: High priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Good news. I wish there was some more jedi love on the cartel market, though. We get way too much, as cool as it is, Sith-themed item and very little unique Jedi-oriented designs that aren't reskins. Edited December 7, 2015 by Alec_Fortescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawabonga Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Hey, since you listen to the feedback of us faithful players on the forums, can we safely assume you have notified whomever it may concern about the vast amount of negative feedback your other post spawned, and that they are hastily reconsidering their decision about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anja Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Good start. Add reputation items back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX_Angel Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 And people say they don't listen. Well done Eric. ^ Yea, I have to give credit where credit is due... they do listen, when it comes to some things... Can I have my Stronghold Slot Machine back now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSpatula Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Cool. Throw in rep items an Cartel Certificates, and I might even start buying the things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAskham Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^ Yea, I have to give credit where credit is due... they do listen, when it comes to some things... Can I have my Stronghold Slot Machine back now? Do they listen to feedback posts or do they listen to the cash register in the CM slowing down, that is the question. My bet, actual sales data mirrored forum feedback, so players speaking with their wallets were the real impetus for changes, not players posting on forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankiel Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Do they listen to feedback posts or do they listen to the cash register in the CM slowing down, that is the question. My bet, actual sales data mirrored forum feedback, so players speaking with their wallets were the real impetus for changes, not players posting on forums. Pretty much this. There were less packs and cartel items on the GTN after the last pack. I guess the numbers forced them into changes. Not whining on the forums. Edited December 7, 2015 by jankiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGrunt Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Do they listen to feedback posts or do they listen to the cash register in the CM slowing down, that is the question. My bet, actual sales data mirrored forum feedback, so players speaking with their wallets were the real impetus for changes, not players posting on forums. Actually I don't think they listen to either. What I think they actually do is put a bunch of ideas on a wall and throw darts at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 They don't listen; EA/BW just felt the loss of revenue as players realized the new packs are not worth the expenditure and the packs are selling poorly in game. BW needs to do a complete U-turn and change the packs back to the way they were before the bright ideas club got hold of them. Ewwww no then ill get more stacks of useless Space Mission XP boosts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suromir Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Hey folks, As we moved into the launch of Fallen Empire, the Cartel Market team has been making continuous changes to improve the overall Cartel Market experience. Much of this based on the feedback from those of you right here in the forums. One of the pieces of feedback they received regarding new packs is that they felt a bit lean. With the new Strategy Alliance Pack releasing tomorrow, they will be adding back the second Primary Slot to each pack. This is similar to how previous shipments worked. That means that the contents of this pack will look like: Primary Slot (Mount, Armor)Primary Slot (Mount, Armor)Companion GiftJawa Junk Thanks everyone, keep the feedback coming as the team looks to continue on improving packs. -eric Thanks for using our real money to beta test your greed. "best experience" my butt, more like "how little can we give and still sell a ton" obvious is obvious. and what about the damn Cartel Certs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskaeth Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Like a smart person already said in this thread: Cartel market priority #1. Thanks for confirming this BW. Also: "Listening to feedback". Only feedback you hear is the cash registry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morthion Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 desperate for cash, are we? I believe that's the entire point of a for-profit organization, yes. Why are you asking the question like it's something new or revelatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasmineMoldovia Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm more interested in hearing about your plans regarding group content; in particular for PVP. But hey thanks for sharing an update on the super pooper rare sparkly whatever cash shop thingies. PVP can happily die in a fire as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) At this point bioware team members should just have a disclaimer in their signatures: "Here at Bioware, we have different teams working on different things, Meet Bob, he works on CM items. Meet Joe, he works on level designs. Meet Peter he works on combat coding. While you might assume because Bob works for Bioware he can do Joe and Peters job too. But he cant. No amount of yelling and tantrum throwing will change this fact" CM team is separate from pvp/fp/ops teams. Yelling at the janitor at Starbucks because he wont make you a Latte while the barista cleans the machine wont get you that latte, just potentially kicked out. (And most likely pointed at and laughed! ) At my work, I sell patio furniture. Whenever someone comes and asks me about how to bring the houseplant they neglected back from the dead I have to refer them to a gardening assiciate because, heres a suprise, i was trained to know about and sell patio furniture, not raise and tend plants. Same principle, no matter how franticly they wave that dead plant in my face, i cant fix it Edited December 7, 2015 by XiamaraSimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesixxpack Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 PVP can happily die in a fire as far as I'm concerned. You don't like exactly what I like? This is fascinating pls tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadtechSavant Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Still not keen on getting companion gifts in these packs, Don't like spending real money on gifts for companions that as of yet don't know if we get to keep the companions or if they get killed off. in-game credits Sure real money nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahrdol Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Since you have finally figure out how to incrementally balance hyper-crates how about applying this new found process to other areas of the game? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parnormality Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 balance, bugs, ops, lag, content, dupe exploiting. Countless post of feedback. Cartel market feedback, 2 weeks later, that ***** is taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediBoadicea Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 As has been said many times in this thread, and in every other thread about the CM changes... but which apparently still needs repeating as the new changes don't mention it: Please put the Cartel Certificates back into the packs, either as a chance drop in addition to the 4 existing items which will now be available, or as an option either/or drop in the companion gift slot. Certificates are still an active currency used in the game, and there is no other place to get them. It's pretty mystifying that they were removed in the first place, and even more so that they haven't yet been restored. Additionally, in this and the other suggestions threads people repeatedly ask to have a reputation vendor associated with new pack shipments. People do buy backs just to increase reputation for some nifty rare items, so this is just added incentive to get people to spend money. Thank you for responding to feedback, and to the sales figures you were no doubt seeing, by making changes. Please don't stop there - just a few more tweaks to fill in the Certificate oversight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alceleniel Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Group content: Low priority Cartel Market: High priority Group content: difficult to implement = more time Cartel Market: easy to implement = less time And you probably know that there are two different teams working on. As for the certificates why not just get rid of them at all. Change the vendor prices to just credits and that we can exchange the existing certificates for credits. Easy solution, no new certificates needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretfur Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 A definite step in the right direction. Just add cartel certificates and it'll be a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianDmitruk Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 A definite step in the right direction. Just add cartel certificates and it'll be a great deal. +1 it seems cartel certs are the only thing really missing from the packs now. Reputation would be nice as well but I understand that we're halfway through a shipment so now is not the best time to put reputation in packs (previous packs within the same shipment would not have it). Better now to add reputation items to the beginning of the next shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allamirr Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 They were suppose to put out more slot machines for all the cartel reputations. Of course, that went down in flames after the nerf from hades crushed the contraband slot machine into worthlessness. They really do need to do something about those reputation vendors. What happens when everyone has no more cartel market Certificates left as well as no one else getting reputation for them? Those vendors just gonna sit there and collect dust. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilnor Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yes, because people "play" Cartel Market. /facepalm /rolleyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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