Miyran Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 try it out, you may change your tune I've only recently started my Sentinel, not even off Coruscant. Like I said before, experiences may vary. Why are you so dogmatic and set in this mind set that your point has to be 100% valid, and everyone else can go hang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinalle Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) if majority voted the sky was blue, doesnt make it right. Everyone knows it's not really blue... "start a new sith warrior" on new server so you have no bonuses, so that way you cant blame the bonuses for the power your comp has I already have characters on Prog and TRE. PvP server? No thanks. German/French PvE or RP server? I think they don't like people who don't speak their language (I only know how to count to three in German). Edited October 27, 2015 by Halinalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootzoot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Maybe they went too far but it's having the Companions be stronger was a brilliant way for Bioware to make the leveling/story part of the game easier without impacting Raids or PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenzikai Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 and thats why the game is screwed now...majority does not always mean right. if majority voted the sky was blue, doesnt make it right. If the majority of the player base think games should not have any kind of challenge to them and are happy to support companies that gut the gameply from a game and sell you slithers of cutscenes for a monthly sub...doesnt make it right. Type in english and proofread, gen y person. Also, go play another game and those that feel the same way you do should too. If it turns out that it breaks the financial back of SWTOR the customer base has indeed spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryniloym Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Everyone knows it's not really blue... shhhh! this ain't a place for learning that the atmosphere bends light! Get outta here, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossclaytonwow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 well businesses tend to go with what's profitable and if the majority say they like what the business is selling, guess what the business is going to continue to do? still does not make it right. Your trying to use the fact that a corporate body wants as much money out of as many schmucks as they can get, to convince me that the game is not easy....even tho....once again....lvl 16 vs multiple lvl 21 mobs=neverending battle. Just try it and see for yourself, you may realise.."oh wait a minute, that does seem a little tiny incy wincy bit rediculous" Spyro the dragon has more difficultly than 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Everyone knows it's not really blue... There is to be NO REAL learning or true logic used in these forums!! PERMABAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 still does not make it right. Your trying to use the fact that a corporate body wants as much money out of as many schmucks as they can get, to convince me that the game is not easy....even tho....once again....lvl 16 vs multiple lvl 21 mobs=neverending battle. Just try it and see for yourself, you may realise.."oh wait a minute, that does seem a little tiny incy wincy bit rediculous" Spyro the dragon has more difficultly than 4.0 Just because you think it's wrong, doesn't mean it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossclaytonwow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 shhhh! this ain't a place for learning that the atmosphere bends light! Get outta here, you! wow, and this is why the game is ruined, you cant see the point that is being made, you have to go on some rediculous tangent to try and belittle sum1 who doesnt agree with your stance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitalityPrime Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure why this thread boiled down into so much bickering. Most of you made your opinion heard that you were ok with how companions are in previous threads, that much did not go unnoticed. In my OP, I respectively proposed a new perspective and question based on the way companions are now...which was different than any of the previous threads out there. Most of you have respectively answered that question, showing me that, yes, a lot of people definitely wanted their companions to be the ones buffed, not the player character. I've noticed people here who posted that it was disrespectful for what they saw as just "another thread asking the same question". I'm sorry you feel that way, because that was definitely not my intention. I believed that I had a different view point on this matter than was ever discussed in the previous threads. So I posted this thread to get that viewpoint out, and to see how others felt about said viewpoint, because I respect your opinions. Anyways...there is no need for anyone, on both sides of this debate, to get so angry at one another in this. Edited October 27, 2015 by VitalityPrime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koron Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Maybe they went too far but it's having the Companions be stronger was a brilliant way for Bioware to make the leveling/story part of the game easier without impacting Raids or PVP. We pick our class, we put time in designing our character creation, we find that perfect outfit, so a cookie cutter companion can outperform us, Bioware should make us more powerful so we can enjoy the leveling story even more, then taking a back seat to our companions. We all know this is isn't right or we wouldn't have a mass amount of people posting on here trying to save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossclaytonwow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just because you think it's wrong, doesn't mean it's wrong. buddy, when you cant die in a game and pay 16.50 a month on a sub for 5 hours of cut scenes with the promise of a few more cutscenes a month...thats wrong any way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaddoSpirito Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Pretty much everything about this game's gameplay design is broken so fixing only the companions would actually make it worse. At least I don't have to bother with the gameplay now. I just let my companion kill everything. This game has more value as a visual novel than an MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilkult Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 just stay away from the Starman. The Starman? Only new age retro hippies believe in such legend. ...but back to swtor. Where was I? Oh yes, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychopyro Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 shhhh! this ain't a place for learning that the atmosphere bends light! Get outta here, you! Actually light bending has nothing to do with it.... It's particle scattering of light that makes the sky blue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 According to the poll the "bring back old comps" brigade started, MOST don't mind the changes. In the case of some (like myself) use their comps to craft, and rarely use them for combat. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael_diSanto Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I love the new companions' power. On the topic of challege: I don't really play for challenge, I play for relaxation. I get plenty of challenge in my day job, and if I truly wanted a challenge against a computer, I'd play computer chess on max level. I like having a game that's kind of on autopilot. I despise combat in video games anyway. I pretty much only play video games for the talky bits and easy combat means that I can skip all the timesink combat grind jazz and just get to the next part of the story. I always hated knowing that to see the next interesting bit, I had to wade through 253,142,753,926 meaningless mooks that add nothing to plot or story development. On the topic of immersion: I don't see companions mechanical power as a bad thing, because mechanical in-game power is not representative of in-story power, anyway. If that were the case, all these big bad class story bosses are all apparently so much less powerful than the operations mobs who really should be running the galaxy since they take 16 players to kill, not just 1 and a companion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 buddy, when you cant die in a game and pay 16.50 a month on a sub for 5 hours of cut scenes with the promise of a few more cutscenes a month...thats wrong any way you look at it. You can't die in the game? You're not trying hard enough then if that's all this is boiling down to: you paying money to get killed. Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryniloym Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 wow, and this is why the game is ruined, you cant see the point that is being made, you have to go on some rediculous tangent to try and belittle sum1 who doesnt agree with your stance... I do not believe you have accurately assessed the exchange I had with that particular poster. I suggest you go back to the point where you suggested I went off on a tangent when it was you who brought it up in the first place. Then re-read the comment and perform another assessment. Also "sum1"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossclaytonwow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm not sure why this thread boiled down into so much bickering. Most of you made your opinion heard that you were ok with how companions are in previous threads, that much did not go unnoticed. In my OP, I respectively proposed a new perspective and question based on the way companions are now...which was different than any of the previous threads out there. Most of you have respectively answered that question, showing me that, yes, a lot of people definitely wanted their companions to be the ones buffed, not the player character. I've noticed people here who posted that it was disrespectful for what they saw as just "another thread asking the same question". I'm sorry you feel that way, because that was definitely not my intention. I believed that I had a different view point on this matter than was ever discussed in the previous threads. So I posted this thread to get that viewpoint out, and to see how others felt about said viewpoint, because I respect your opinions. Anyways...there is no need for anyone, on both sides of this debate, to get so angry at one another in this. it never can, because in every thread where someone dears to say that the changes in 4.0 are not that great, all hell breaks lose and all these ppl invade the thread, telling us we should not post, we should not whine, accept it and move on...the whole time failing to realise, these changes were made in the first place was because of them not accepting the game the way it was before and whining for the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheris Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 How about gear up and be more powerful again? Remember Korriban where Vette oblitereted everything and you could just stand there and gaze with awe? Later on you had to pop all your dCDs to keep you both alive and finally became the Hero and Vette was just a sidekick. The same story over again - a geared up player will have a higher output no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossclaytonwow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I do not believe you have accurately assessed the exchange I had with that particular poster. I suggest you go back to the point where you suggested I went off on a tangent when it was you who brought it up in the first place. Then re-read the comment and perform another assessment. Also "sum1"? its an internet forum mate, not an english literature exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryniloym Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Actually light bending has nothing to do with it.... It's particle scattering of light that makes the sky blue... bends, sacatters...potato, Jerusalem. It's all the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlitzace Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 LOUD NOISES! *thats all im getting out of this thread* *panties=wadded up* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackFx Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) You are all looking at this wrong. Just because there isn't a billion helpless NPC characters running about doesn't mean they don't exist. Your playable characters.. the deck in your hand.. are the exceptional people in a GALAXY. Edited October 27, 2015 by BlackFx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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