AlrikFassbauer Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Changing the name of Master Strike to "Blade Dance" is almost as bad as naming the Sage class Jedi Wizard. "Blade Dance" is a term that should be familiar to you from the Fantasy genre, if you played in it or read books from it. It is often used in Fantasy-inspired games for all kinds of Elves (more often for Daerkj Elves, though). The Blade Dancer is someione with the ABSOLUTE highest proficiency in doing combat with a blade ! For Blade Dancers, there is sometimes even used the term "wall of blades". This is the image of blades used to quickly that they create an virtual "wall" through which nothing can pass through - except dead. If you see an example of this "blade wall", the just look at General Grievous using all 4 blades in ROTS when battling Obi-Wan Kenobi. Besides, use the term "Morris Dance" int Youtube, please. Blade Dance sounds like something out of a Dungeons and Dragons sourcebook. Time to add the planet Faerun. I agree. Grievous and the MagnaGuards are the only Star Wars examples using it. Wait...so what was wrong with "jedi wizard"? "Wizard" = Fantasy Star Wars = Science Fiction Edited September 5, 2015 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenduKundalini Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Got to give it mad dash is also up there for stupid names. Lets strike fear into our enemies with a mad dash at their lines! Clearly whoever they have left in the office coming up with these names hates their job (possibly because they are not very good at it) and wants to see how many stupid things they can get in before they are let go. No doubt they will be sitting around in weeks to come laughing with their mates how they pulled one over on the the producers of Kotfe, pointing out the stupid names they managed to get in cause those poor sobs producing the game don't know whats going on. Lol Master Going-To-Leave-My-Backside-Vulnerable-In-This-Slow-***-Animation. But I'm fine if they change it to something else. I think people just don't want to lose the "Master" part. This Suggestion, if dumb-me-down rules forbid the use of "strike" from now on: Master Thrust. Trust your Jedi Masters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 "Blade Dance" is a term that should be familiar to you from the Fantasy genre, if you played in it or read books from it. It is often used in Fantasy-inspired games for all kinds of Elves (more often for Daerkj Elves, though). The Blade Dancer is someione with the ABSOLUTE highest proficiency in doing combat with a blade ! For Blade Dancers, there is sometimes even used the term "wall of blades". This is the image of blades used to quickly that they create an virtual "wall" through which nothing can pass through - except dead. If you see an example of this "blade wall", the just look at General Grievous using all 4 blades in ROTS when battling Obi-Wan Kenobi. Besides, use the term "Morris Dance" int Youtube, please. I agree. Grievous and the MagnaGuards are the only Star Wars examples using it. "Wizard" = Fantasy Star Wars = Science Fiction Science Fiction can be fantasy tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Sounds like an excuse to dismiss all complaints and concerns, valid or not, based long-winded hyperbole and a strawman of unusual size. "My house is on fire!" "Stop complaining, at least you're warm and don't need to turn the lights on." If that's the way you perceive my words, I cannot stop you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Science Fiction can be fantasy tho. Everything that is not real is a "fantasy" technically Reno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimasterjac Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I quite like it. I'm just going to go off how Warhammer Online defines it: A system of combination attacks, Blade Dancing allows the Swordmaster to chain together different attacks and abilities in order to unleash powerful finishing attacks with their greatswords. Seems pretty similar to what Master Strike does, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draocnkang Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I do not think it is as bad as Jedi wizard was. It is actually fairly accurate and vary fitting to how jedi fight imo. A lightsaber has a blade and the flowing attacks you do when using Master strike right now is actually vary close to what I would call a blade dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Reminds me of the fact that Warhammer Online devs are in the combat team now ... They most likely had far too many WOW veterans and Fantasy genre veterans in the dev team in the first place ? Edited September 6, 2015 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excise Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Personally I think the new name kicks rear end. Dance-offs are mighty, yo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7U9P-TmJ8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draocnkang Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Personally I think the new name kicks rear end. Dance-offs are mighty, yo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7U9P-TmJ8g I will ravage your bladedance :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Personally I think the new name kicks rear end. Dance-offs are mighty, yo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7U9P-TmJ8g I'm going to have to call your dance-off and raise you some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excise Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I'm going to have to call your dance-off and raise you some gah... I need backup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul_of_Flames Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The reason for the change is illogical. Changing the name away from Master Strike is what's going to cause confusion, not keeping it. For starters, it's gone as Master Strike since launch without any complaints. Secondly, Soresu form lists the abilities that gain reduced focus from it... and Master Strike is clearly not listed. Thirdly, if someone isn't bright enough to realize why a move that's not on a list of effected moves is not effected... then they probably didn't even realize that Soresu form even had a focus reducing aspect to it in the first place. Fourthly, the reasoning behind changing the name doesn't make sense. Soresu reduces focus of all the listed "Strike" abilities. But Master Strike costs 0 focus. Reducing from 0 is still 0. So even if you included Master Strike as one of the effected abilities, as redundant as it might seem, there would still be no one complaining. And finally, changing the name is going to create a much larger roar of upset and confusion... as exemplified by the backlash seen in game and on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 And finally, changing the name is going to create a much larger roar of upset and confusion... as exemplified by the backlash seen in game and on the forums. Oh really? I haven't heard or seen anyone in game even mention it. And of course someone will complain about it on the forum here...that's standard procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 gah... I need backup! I'm think I'm going to have to ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebruixe Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 "Wizard" = Fantasy Star Wars = Science Fiction Good point! Boy it would be silly if they used fantasy terms like "Sorcerer" in a Star Wars game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 "Blade Dance" is a term that should be familiar to you from the Fantasy genre, if you played in it or read books from it. It is often used in Fantasy-inspired games for all kinds of Elves (more often for Daerkj Elves, though). The Blade Dancer is someione with the ABSOLUTE highest proficiency in doing combat with a blade ! For Blade Dancers, there is sometimes even used the term "wall of blades". This is the image of blades used to quickly that they create an virtual "wall" through which nothing can pass through - except dead. If you see an example of this "blade wall", the just look at General Grievous using all 4 blades in ROTS when battling Obi-Wan Kenobi. Besides, use the term "Morris Dance" int Youtube, please. I agree. Grievous and the MagnaGuards are the only Star Wars examples using it. "Wizard" = Fantasy Star Wars = Science Fiction scifi=sub genre of fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreiya Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 "Wizard" = Fantasy Star Wars = Science Fiction Actually, Star Wars is space opera with fantasy mixed in - the last thing it is is hard sci-fi. I think it's far more accurate to categorize it as science fantasy. So everyone who is actually in a tizzy over how non-sci-fi/silly this new name is might want to acknowledge that there is a fantasy element to Star Wars. Seriously, you can't explain away the Force or Force ghosts (and certainly not that whole Revan thing) with science. Personally, I think it's rather hyperbolic of the OP to claim that Blade Dance is on par with Jedi Wizard. I thought Jedi Wizard was meh/silly, but honestly, Blade Dance doesn't seem that bad in comparison. Given the nature of jedi/sith combat and how I think of it, it at least seems somewhat apropos to me, but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeventhJedi Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I remember when they announced "Jedi Wizard." Good times, good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I remember when they announced "Jedi Wizard." Good times, good times. I don't of course I started in Jan 2012. But I would have been okay with Jedi Wizard. Sith Sorcerer is a thing after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azareya Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Are you telling me I could have been a wizard!?!?! Why did BIoware remove this.. Check if out, I think I stumbled on a video demo of the new blade dance ability. LOL Edited September 7, 2015 by Azareya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JourrnoRush Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I don't see a problem keep it as is PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I agree. Perhaps this thread should go in a constructive direction by suggesting replacement names? Danza de la Espada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azareya Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Wasn't Blade Dance the name of the ability that Shadows should have had and was removed in beta ? (equivalent to NPC spinning strikes) taken from another thread "Perform a Blade Dance, dealing moderate damage to all targets within melee range. Your parry and deflect chances are increased by 60% while channeling this ability. Requires a double-bladed lightsaber." I still want that ability on the Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanThursday Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I vote for "Swordy Thing". Only because "Randomly turn your back on your opponent while stabbing them several times very very slowly" wouldn't fit on the tooltip very well. Actually.... "Perform a Blade Dance, dealing moderate damage to all targets within melee range. Your parry and deflect chances are increased by 60% while channeling this ability. Requires a double-bladed lightsaber." How about giving *that* to Guardians/Juggernauts, with a slight change, of course, to fit their different weapon, thus giving the following tooltip: "Perform a Blade Dance, dealing moderate damage to all targets within melee range. Your parry and deflect chances are increased by 60% while channeling this ability. Requires a double-bladed lightsaber. You cannot use a double-bladed lightsaber. Ha." Edited September 9, 2015 by RowanThursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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