unibim Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) First was kephess. Then revan... And now Malgus... Seriously? LET THE DEAD REST IN PEACE ALREADY! Edited July 13, 2015 by unibim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyreblade Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 There is no death, there is the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diviciacus Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) There is no death, there is the Force. There is no life, there is the Force. It's a stupid, pander-y copout way of not having to go through the effort of designing and characterizing a new character. WoW has been heavily criticized for literally years because it keeps characters alive who should be dead, and now TOR is too. Stop. Just stop. *********** stop. Edited July 12, 2015 by Diviciacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anysao Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I somewhat agree, but I will join the bandwagon of being glad to see Malgus back. Only because he had that specific death mechanic. Emphasis on had. But I actually only posted on this thread to ask about this. First was kephess (3 times!). Kephess was revived thrice? I remember his initial death on Denova, then again on Asation, then Dread Master Brontes' clone... where was the third revival? I only count two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 First was kephess (3 times!). Then revan... (2 times!) And now Malgus... Seriously? LET THE DEAD REST IN PEACE ALREADY! Coming back from the dead a long proud tradition of anything that is soap opera like. This includes Star Wars. They have no end really planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrutchCricket Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Normally I'd agree but given the hilarious underuse of Malgus in the main game, I'd say he deserves more screentime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typenine Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RameiArashi Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 First was kephess (3 times!). Then revan... (2 times!) And now Malgus... Seriously? LET THE DEAD REST IN PEACE ALREADY! Where's this coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typenine Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Where's this coming from? Video of an additional scene from the Blur cinematic, featuring Malgus: EDIT: This is a deleted scene from the trailer that was later replaced by the "lightsaber presentation" scene. There's no official word on this scene actually having happened in the SWTOR timeline. We'll have to wait for more information to know for sure whether Malgus actually lives. (Source) EDIT 2: Further confirmation that this is deleted footage by Charles Boyd, Lead Writer: "let's all remember, that was cut just showing behind the scenes concepts." (Source) This^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That seems like a lot of effort to put into cut content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diviciacus Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That seems like a lot of effort to put into cut content. Exactly. They cut it because they didn't want to reveal Malgus' return right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Under normal circumstances yeah I 100% agree with you, bringing dead characters back would damage the consistency. However in Malgus' case, you didn't kill him right way in the original FP(they later changed it to reduce difficulty), you had to push him off the bridge which we know someone had survived it in the SW movie. I think Bioware did it on purpose to not make his death 100% so they could use him in later story if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpokeking Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Will the Dread Masters be the next one? We know that one of them might survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharenisis Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 First was kephess (3 times!). Then revan... (2 times!) And now Malgus... Seriously? LET THE DEAD REST IN PEACE ALREADY! Last thing I saw of Malgus was him fall over a ledge...sooooooooooooooooooo... He isn't dead Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) And now Malgus... Seriously? Wait, what? Where is he revived exactly? Last thing I saw of Malgus was him fall over a ledge...sooooooooooooooooooo... He isn't dead Jim. Last time I saw him he was lying on a floor, dead, after I soloed him. Also don't forget that in both cases the space station exploded due to self-destruct that he activates at the beginning of the fight. Since the explosion isn't shown (people just exit area) people forget it. Edited July 12, 2015 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazztam Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Malgus is still alive? Ok... Lets see here, we killed Revan on some early run once. Later on we run into him again and have to do the job twice. JK kills the Emperor, but not really. We all took a shot at Malgus and we've failed at that as well? The reason there are no "Weakest force users who are somehow still alive" threads are because those fools... are us... We really are no longer hero's anymore are we? If we can't kill an enemy then what good are we? What is the point of becoming immersed in a character, enjoying the fact that he/she is one of the most powerful forces for your faction when they can only, truly kill someone with a silver frame or less around their portrait? Do we have to fight the next crop of expansion bad guys 2 or 3 times as well? Are our characters that inept? Are we so full of fail that we will need another NPC to lead us by the hand and explain to us how to kill a fellow force user? Maybe Darth Marr can swoop in and say "nice work but this NPC over here is the real hero" once again as well? I thought we were playing larger than life hero's who had the power and intelligence see a task to its end. Returning the dead to life is just weak, uninspired and sloppy. As the OP said, stop it. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyreblade Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 OMG, it's a fictional universe! Need a hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazztam Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 OMG, it's a fictional universe! Need a hug? A hug would be nice right now, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyreblade Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 A hug would be nice right now, thank you. <hugs> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Hell, even in Game of Thrones which is considered the highest standard of fantasy writing and everyone saying what a great genius GRRM is, the "Return from the Dead" trope has been used many times! Don't read if you dont want to get spoiled for GoT / ASoIaF Sir Beric Dondarion i ressurrected in the books & show about 7 times Catlyn Stark is ressurrected in the books Mance Rider is burned at the stake, but in the books it was someone else glamoured to look like him Ser Robert Strong is believed to be Ser Gregor Clegane brought back with some form of Necromancy Aegon Targeryen was actually not killed and is alive and well Other characters that are believed to be dead have been hinted to come back (Jon Snow, Sandor Clegane) Plus... The whole white walker army is 99% dead people brought back with necromancy So even in the highly praised GoT, the trope of "reviving" dead characters have been used plenty of times, either by blessings of the gods, necromancy, or the characters avoiding death in the 1st place and coming back later Edited July 13, 2015 by ChazDoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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