TitusOfTides Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Come December, is it possible that we could see these in-game? If not, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Come December, is it possible that we could see these in-game? If not, why? I would say no to this because it would completely break cannon / star wars lore. The cross guard lightsaber came about during the "Rise of the Empire" era which is around 1000 BBY - 0 BBY Rise of the Empire This game takes place starting at 3643 BBY and goes on so far to 3640 BBY. So we are a few thousand years before the crossguard light saber is invented or appears in lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothshark Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I would say no to this because it would completely break cannon / star wars lore. The cross guard lightsaber came about during the "Rise of the Empire" era which is around 1000 BBY - 0 BBY Rise of the Empire This game takes place starting at 3643 BBY and goes on so far to 3640 BBY. So we are a few thousand years before the crossguard light saber is invented or appears in lore. Source. Because up til now, only one other character had such a saber and no actual history of the design has been given. (if your source is a RPG book, then it isn't canon.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupezz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Source. Because up til now, only one other character had such a saber and no actual history of the design has been given. (if your source is a RPG book, then it isn't canon.) True. Just because the only known wielder lived during the Rise of the Empire era, doesn't mean that he was the first to use it. But considering that the TC explicitly named December, I think they are asking for Kylo Ren's lightsaber, not the one used by Roblio Darté. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) There is no history of this type of lightsaber ever existing. I've searched through multiple sources including http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber This was the only reference to it that I could find, Under the part "Usage and History" it says Rise of the Empire era So from what I can tell it didn't exist before this era as it was a custom design, not a standard design. Yes they could implement it, just don't see the history of it during the games timeline Edited May 6, 2015 by Nightblazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) EDIT: Yes, I am referring to Kylo Ren's lightsaber. (Specifically refers to it as a "crossguard lightsaber") I understand all of your points, but I honestly must say none of them really have any merit. As far as only one character having this item, look at all of the armor sets we have floating around right now. How many people wore Darth Revan's robes, Theron Shan's Outfit, etc? How many people had Star Forged Lightsabers? Was Darth Malak's Jaw mass produced and sold at Wal-Mart? No. We have a lot of "unique" items that anyone can have, and that's part of the whole appeal of having these items. As far as canon goes, I'm pretty certain that all of these crazy color crystals floating around aren't canon. To a further extent, we don't even know for sure if this entire game is canon anymore. Even if it was, there are many things in this game that are obviously NOT canon. So, while I understand your points, precedent seems to say they don't matter. I don't mean any offense by this, but I feel it's necessary to point it out. Edited May 6, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLowlife Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 EDIT: Yes, I am referring to Kylo Ren's lightsaber. (Refers to "crossguard") I understand all of your points, but I honestly must say none of them really have any merit. As far as only one character having this item, look at all of the armor sets we have floating around right now. How many people wore Darth Revan's robes, Theron Shan's Outfit, etc? How many people had Star Forged Lightsabers? Was Darth Malak's Jaw mass produced and sold at Wal-Mart? No. We have a lot of "unique" items that anyone can have, and that's part of the whole appeal of having these items. As far as canon goes, I'm pretty certain that all of these crazy color crystals floating around aren't canon. To a further extent, we don't even know for sure if this entire game is canon anymore. Even if it was, there are many things in this game that are obviously NOT canon. So, while I understand your points, precedent seems to say they don't matter. 1. Swtor is NOT canon....it never was. 2. I'm sure we'll see the ccross guard saber in game sometime before 12/18/25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupezz Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So from what I can tell it didn't exist before this era as it was a custom design, not a standard design. Yes they could implement it, just don't see the history of it during the games timeline So you're saying that just because there's no record of anyone other than Roblio Darté using a Crossguard lightsaber, it can't possibly have existed before? You do realize that this is extremely close-minded thinking, right? We have never seen or heard of the Darksaber before the Clone Wars either, and yet it was an ancient and very unconventional lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothshark Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So you're saying that just because there's no record of anyone other than Roblio Darté using a Crossguard lightsaber, it can't possibly have existed before? You do realize that this is extremely close-minded thinking, right? We have never seen or heard of the Darksaber before the Clone Wars either, and yet it was an ancient and very unconventional lightsaber. based on physics, the darksaber doesn't count as a lightsaber. It's an anti-photon particle sword. But yes, it was a non-standard force user weapon of ancient design. As for the crossgaurd saber design, it would be something common during any period where force users duel each other regularly, since a crossgaurd has a specific function during sword duels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 So you're saying that just because there's no record of anyone other than Roblio Darté using a Crossguard lightsaber, it can't possibly have existed before? You do realize that this is extremely close-minded thinking, right? We have never seen or heard of the Darksaber before the Clone Wars either, and yet it was an ancient and very unconventional lightsaber. I never said it couldn't have possibly existed I just stated that there is no record of it. Nothing more. I'm not against the idea of adding it at all. I just merely stated what I found about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamyz Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I don't believe this will break the cannon in any way. Apart, Swtor and KotOR are non canon at this point. It's just an item. Something to buy in the game with cc. It's a vanity item more than lore or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I don't believe this will break the cannon in any way. Apart, Swtor and KotOR are non canon at this point. It's just an item. Something to buy in the game with cc. It's a vanity item more than lore or something else. Yeah thats True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 That's JJ Abram's idiot choice I don't want that in the REAL star wars universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilikaa Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 That's JJ Abram's idiot choice I don't want that in the REAL star wars universe. Too late, it is part of the "REAL" Star Wars Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saito_Hiraga Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Come December, is it possible that we could see these in-game? If not, why? NO!!!! This is the WORST AND MOST STUPID suggestion EVER!!! Dont **** The Old Republic with **** like this the same way Disney did with Star Wars. what's next on your stupid suggestion list? Ezra's lightsaber gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckKing Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 A Lightwhip, energy whip or a laser whip whatever you want to call it would be awesome to have in-game but it'd probably never happen. Githany used one and such a weapon has existed in the old republic era. Maybe one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orizuru Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 NO!!!! This is the WORST AND MOST STUPID suggestion EVER!!! Dont **** The Old Republic with **** like this the same way Disney did with Star Wars. what's next on your stupid suggestion list? Ezra's lightsaber gun? Gungan as a playable race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) NO!!!! This is the WORST AND MOST STUPID suggestion EVER!!! Dont **** The Old Republic with **** like this the same way Disney did with Star Wars. what's next on your stupid suggestion list? Ezra's lightsaber gun? Based on the suggestions you have in your signature, I don't think you're in any position to criticize. How is the crossguard saber stupid? There are plenty of farther reaching items that have already been introduced into previous Star Wars canon. Light whip? Original crossguard saber? These take a lot more liberties with lightsabers than having a crossguard. Jump off the bandwagon, and accept that you only dislike it because someone else told you to. Edited May 7, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henriquecorseuil Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Please NO! No way. This is a Sci-Fi MMO not a Medieval to get that horrible, awful, ridiculous lightsaber design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Please NO! No way. This is a Sci-Fi MMO not a Medieval to get that horrible, awful, ridiculous lightsaber design. I didn't realize that the movie the saber is in wasn't Star Wars, let alone science fiction. Edited May 7, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaesha Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Please NO! No way. This is a Sci-Fi MMO not a Medieval to get that horrible, awful, ridiculous lightsaber design. Just for reference the combat styles used for Star Wars hell just star wars in general has heavy Japanese influence so I see no issue with adding some medieval. Edited May 7, 2015 by Anaesha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Just for reference the combat styles used for the Star Wars universe and star wars in general has heavy Japanese influence so I see no issue with adding some medieval. Thank you! Adding this to the game would do nothing to affect balance... and if someone doesn't like it they don't have to use it! It's not going anywhere anytime soon, (unless Kylo Ren dies in Ep. VII) so get used to it everyone! It's 100% legit canon now. Edited May 7, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothshark Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) NO!!!! This is the WORST AND MOST STUPID suggestion EVER!!! Dont **** The Old Republic with **** like this the same way Disney did with Star Wars. what's next on your stupid suggestion list? Ezra's lightsaber gun? of all the ideas on updating the light saber that actually suck, you're example is the one logical and obvious weapon, which is actually bad arse if you understand the implication and use. of course by god awful ideas I mean 'dark saber' and 'saber whips'. If you want the full essay as to why both of those weapons are completely fail let me know. As for the cross-guard saber, look at the actual cross-guard(Quillon) swords in the real world, they are specifically designed for a purpose, that purpose is valid in the Star Wars universe. Edited May 8, 2015 by gothshark h for the love of the letter h, i forgot an h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothshark Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Please NO! No way. This is a Sci-Fi MMO not a Medieval to get that horrible, awful, ridiculous lightsaber design. It's a fantasy setting with spaceships. We have 4 classes which are effectively Wizard with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) of all the ideas on updating the light saber that actually suck, you're example is the one logical and obvious weapon, which is actually bad arse if you understand the implication and use. of course by god awful ideas I mean 'dark saber' and 'saber whips'. If you want the full essay as to why both of those weapons are completely fail let me know. As for the cross-guard saber, look at the actual cross-guard(Quillon) swords in the real world, they are specifically designed for a purpose, that purpose is valid in the Star Wars universe. I'd be real interested in the full essay, if it's not too much trouble. The dark saber doesn't seem too crazy (just researched it (not a big fan of clone wars)) and some of the black crystals we have now are kind of similar in aesthetics. I remember reading about the saber whip a long time ago with the Sith Lady or w/e, and admittedly I'm not a fan of it. It also would be a lot more difficult to implement compared to a crossguard saber, I would imagine. I guess they're both canon, with the differences being: the crossguard is going to get some actual movie screen time, and it would be much easier to put in the game compared to coding an entirely new weapon. With that in mind, it seems there would have to almost be an active effort NOT to put it in the game. I mean, it's 100% legit STAR WARS canon whether we like it or not (which I do!). Edited May 8, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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