FerreusSteelTip Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Evil-Zombie Kephess picture, outfit system from LOTRO, pink movie tie-in speeder. What's everyone's thoughts? I'm really curious. If you didn't catch the live stream, they have notes up everywhere. If you have and if you've heard, what's the consensus. btw, my own reaction in the siggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exosasa Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 It was possibly the best patch in the history of this game. Great story, great planet, great speeder... that thing is fun... great everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordSnake Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Rise of the Emperor is just incredible in my opinion. I've tried it out on PTS and it blew my mind away, of course with whatever bioware has in store for us that's actually new and interesting, something to keep me focused for the next few days or so is perfect. They left us with a big tease on PTS though with the final mission bugging out, so I assume we will get to do a lot more on April 28. To experience Ziost was just incredible, although it didn't have much to explore, I'm not disappointed with it, I'm actually glad we get a new planet, and who knows it might be a daily planet, might have a lot more we don't know about yet. Upon the emperor returning, I knew it would happen eventually. I'm hoping once April 28 hits we will start seeing some new flash points maybe an operation we can solo like on Yavin four, but besides that I'm just excited and sad, sad because I have to wait >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Doooooes anyone know if they have the Level Up Terminal up on the PTS Fleet due to the current testing of 3.2 being max level/the most recent content? I'm doubting they do but I felt the need to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 It seems a little on the short side and perhaps a little lacking depth from a story point of view. I thought people were asking for more class story; more so than an outfit designer. I was a bit surprised when they said the second video was half way through and I got to it after 30 minuets I was thinking this can't be right. and it looks very similar for both factions. As for the cantina stuff not really looking to fly to the states for a mount I wouldn't use, the outfit designer is just saving outfit looks not so much a designer. I don't recall much else from the live stream. Fairly certain though Kephis is not ever coming back and that was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdDementor Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) It was pretty damn amazing. Being carefully optimistic here, but it seems like the folks at BioWare meant what they said about putting the emphasis back on story. If they keep this up, the future's looking bright. I mean, this was a hell of a lot of story content in a patch, not an expansion. Musco and the devs also pulled it off perfectly on the stream. I was just casually listening in as they discussed the Choose Your Path stuff, when suddenly, out of nowhere, "Oh by the way, Rise of the Emperor is now on the PTS!" I've never dealt with the PTS before, but I immediately went to read the instructions and sat through like 6 hours of downloading. And it was totally worth it. Well played, Eric I gotta say the writing staff outdid themselves, and I don't mean just in the overall story. I won't go into spoilers, but you know how in most dialogue wheels, option 1 has a unique line for your class? Well, in a lot of the conversations here, all 3 choices are unique per class. It may not be new class missions, but it definitely fleshes out and adds more depth to our characters. Edited March 22, 2015 by ThirdDementor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 One of the greatest patches ever in this game in my eyes. Great features, great story and overall goodies coming They did a bang up job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthZaul Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Like most content patches, its pretty good but its not gonna last 2-3 months till the next patch. Ziost is looks pretty good and the quests are quick, simple and good credits. The 190 gear is very useful for gearing up new people for SM raids. The outfit designer is very simplistic but does all it really needs to. The travel improvements are great. But story content is once you've done it , its over then you have nothing to do again. Edited March 22, 2015 by DarthZaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACeMossie Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Like most content patches, its pretty good but its not gonna last 2-3 months till the next patch. Ziost is looks pretty good and the quests are quick, simple and good credits. The 190 gear is very useful for gearing up new people for SM raids. The outfit designer is very simplistic but does all it really needs to. The travel improvements are great. But story content is once you've done it , its over then you have nothing to do again. Well there is that not-yet-implemented TC style world boss with a lockout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARabidGuineaPig Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So does this mean i can just keep my current gear in slot then add (example dancer costume) to the costume slow and ill then have the stats of my gear and looks of the dancer costume? No more playing around with the mod upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerreusSteelTip Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Is everyone serious? lol They showed a screenshot of a zombie looking Kephess. The Emperor is taking over people's minds, there's a jedi group called the 6th line or whatever, and ....seriously? Does anyone here remember playing KOTOR one an two? or I dunno, played the recent Dragon Age Inquisition? This writing is a shadow of what it could be. The Emperor is nothing like how one would imagine him to be from the book, Revan. Guess those writers are gone. No new class specific story lines was it for me when they announced it what, last year? The bone they through us on Rishi was an insult. No decent class changes. No talk of soling the queue times. Nothing at all about improving the game itself. Just more fluff, more distractions to tide over star wars fans. Which, I find amusing considering this game isn't even canon anymore. Official stance is Disney/Lucas hasn't confirmed this to be canon. Yet they don't want to destroy the game by saying it isn't. They told Bioware to just keep doing what they're doing since this game is set so far back in time it will have no bearing on the future of star wars. That said, the lore is game is based on is definitely NOT canon. The books and games prior are officially OUT. So Ziost? probably not even considered the same way in the new expanded universe. Now if this game's story was as good as the two games it was inspired by, I could let slide the 'not being canon' issue. But since the story isn't, and the PvP -- which is the second selling point with me -- seems to be constantly overlooked...I've had it. I'm done. Been with this game since beta. Defended it from all the hate post launch, all the hate after the free to play announcement, all the justifiable hate from rohc patch. Just can't defend it anymore. I understand the rants many a person has made, and the videos of them saying good bye to this game. It's not a sequel to KOTOR 2, it's a bastardization of those amazing games. My own rant is in the siggy. To those that think this patch is amazing....I'm glad you do. Glad you can find something positive in it. I'm sure I would too if the rest of the game was running smooth. Or that I knew the 'major' concerns were being addressed/in the process of being fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARabidGuineaPig Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 ^ can i have your credits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halinalle Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 They left us with a big tease on PTS though with the final mission bugging out, so I assume we will get to do a lot more on April 28. What makes you think it's a bug? To me it looks like a typical way to block players from progressing into areas that are still under development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Well, see, the emperor is like a pile of unbaked bread dough. Edited March 22, 2015 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdDementor Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Well, see, the emperor is like a pile of unbaked bread dough. "The Emperor is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get." It could be a guy with a brain helmet; it could be a Voss Mystic, or an old man in a temple, or perhaps a purple beam. You could also get an Imperial soldier, a female Jedi, an angry mob, or sometimes just a disembodied voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calarand Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Is everyone serious? lol They showed a screenshot of a zombie looking Kephess. The Emperor is taking over people's minds, there's a jedi group called the 6th line or whatever, and ....seriously? Does anyone here remember playing KOTOR one an two? or I dunno, played the recent Dragon Age Inquisition? Well, excuse us for daring to have our own opinions different from yours... /sarcasm Story-wise, you need to remember that SWTOR is an MMO. Not a typical one, granted, buts still an MMO, and as such it simply can not offer multiple expansive, complex story arcs. Single player games are for that and you should never compare SWTOR to KOTOR or DA:I. Totally different media. Also, this is a free PATCH, not a paid EXPANSION, so don't expect hours of gameplay from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarian Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 you know how in most dialogue wheels, option 1 has a unique line for your class? Well, in a lot of the conversations here, all 3 choices are unique per class. It may not be new class missions, but it definitely fleshes out and adds more depth to our characters. Hmm. Well, that's...something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarian Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Story-wise, you need to remember that SWTOR is an MMO. Not a typical one, granted, buts still an MMO, and as such it simply can not offer multiple expansive, complex story arcs. Is there some other kind of game that does offer multiple expansive complex story arcs? Single player games are for that Oh. and you should never compare SWTOR to KOTOR or DA:I. Totally different media. I don't know. I'd say that in terms of multiplicity and expansiveness, the vanilla swtor content is by far superior to kotor. It simply has more and bigger stories. I haven't played DA:I, and maybe I never will, but as far as I know that has one overall storyline, rather than eight - so I would guess swtor beats that also. So...to me, vanilla swtor, despite being an MMO, is better in those respects than single player games. One big reason it had such multiple and expansive stories was the original budget. The size of the original budget was, I think, largely due not to its being an MMO per se, but the kind of payment model it would use - subscriptions. So...the reason not to expect multiple expansive stories from new swtor content isn't that it's an MMO, but that the budget has dried up. If they'd had a stable base of 10 million subscribers, I think they would have continued with multiple expansive stories, MMO or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) This writing is a shadow of what it could be. The Emperor is nothing like how one would imagine him to be from the book, Revan. Your opinion. No decent class changes. No talk of soling the queue times. Nothing at all about improving the game itself. Just more fluff, more distractions to tide over star wars fans. Yeah, uh, news flash, TOR's only selling point is its story and voice acting. The rest is crap. The rest will always be crap compared to innumerable other MMOs that can be named. Official stance is Disney/Lucas hasn't confirmed this to be canon. Yet they don't want to destroy the game by saying it isn't. They told Bioware to just keep doing what they're doing since this game is set so far back in time it will have no bearing on the future of star wars. That said, the lore is game is based on is definitely NOT canon. The books and games prior are officially OUT. So Ziost? probably not even considered the same way in the new expanded universe. Now if this game's story was as good as the two games it was inspired by, I could let slide the 'not being canon' issue. Who the **** cares what Lucas thinks? And this game's story is far better than KOTOR 2's, that's for sure. 'Destroy the game'? How many people would quit if Disney said TOR isn't canon? And then how many of those people aren't being dumb? It's not a sequel to KOTOR 2, Yeah? It only took you, what, 4 years to realize that? My major responses out of the way. Edited March 22, 2015 by Djiini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeterno Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If quality of expansions will rise by a similar standard to the quality of patches with this patch then we're in for a good year. Don't think there's ever been a meatier patch. Perhaps in the early era with the rakgh. plague event and the flashpoints. If this isn't just a blip and we're talking similar levels with 3.3 and onwards then w000t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedip_enguin Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The patch is ok, the story is pretty solid and it seems relatively bug free but all this 'biggest ever' is a little overblown for an area about the same in scale as Orion but not including the 2 operations. Unless they have something big in store that's not on the PTS yet it is an afternoons worth of content even for multiple toons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordkoon Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 There is some unwritten rule in movies and games where stuff always have to be ''Rise of the XX" . I mean come oooon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 There is some unwritten rule in movies and games where stuff always have to be ''Rise of the XX" . I mean come oooon.... Rise of Revan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menofhorror Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I am waiting for Darth Wickeds opinion on the story. The story is the most important thing. If the story sucks than the game has a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billupsat Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 My major responses out of the way. My only issue with your response was the needless Kotor 2 hate. Which I'll always consider the best of the franchise. But to each their own. Everything else pretty much sums up how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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