Necrolepsy Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 So I took a 4.5 crit from an Inquisitor today, no other class has hit me this hard. Is it just me or is this class already overpowered? I keep hearing sages and inquisitors are super strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainu Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Most classes can crit for that much and more, provided they've got decent gear with expertise and/or surge. I'd say the reason sorc/sage is considered OP is that they get aseveral CC skills early on so they're good at lower levels. Going up against a high level sniper/gunslinger, operative/scoundrel, mercenary/commando or marauder/sentinel definitely seems to be much more difficult IMO. Sorc also give the imprssion that they're OP since all their attacks look pretty much the same so it will look like they're just spamming the same skill over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidank Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I do some stupid damage but I don't think I've ever hit that high. 4.5 seems ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I crit 5 people at once for 4k and noooo one complains. This is heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwaneDibbley Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Just cuz u seen big lightning doesnt mean u wasnt sniped at same time. Wait for combat logs, then QQ. Never seen so hugh crit from sorc/sage, more like sniper or operative stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwaneDibbley Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I crit 5 people at once for 4k and noooo one complains. This is heaven. Cuz there wernt animation visible from space. Or more likely those ppl were stuck by lightning at same time and now QQing on formus about lightning criting for 4k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrolepsy Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 Just cuz u seen big lightning doesnt mean u wasnt sniped at same time. Wait for combat logs, then QQ. Never seen so hugh crit from sorc/sage, more like sniper or operative stuff. Scrolling combat text popped 4532 and it was as lightning landed on me. That's as good as combat logs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerdoc Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 You do realize that only assasin can pull that off and still its unlikely? Gunslingers/snipers are only ones who can pull off that crits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwaneDibbley Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 And dead Sorc threw on me blue unicorn that crited me for over 9000. And my words are as good as combatlog or screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telaan Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Today a sorcerer ghosted into my toon's body and took over control. He then went around and ninja'd all the nodes for the Sith and my team couldn't do anything about it because my character was unattackable to them. Nerf sorcerers!!!!!!eleventyone!!!1111!!! Sorcerers are fine. You PvPd, died, and decided to post about it on the forums. Congrats, you win teh internetz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Scrolling combat text popped 4532 and it was as lightning landed on me. That's as good as combat logs. actually its not cause like he said a snipe could have hit you at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPoe Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) It was most likely a level 50 assassin or shadow with a surge relic activated, 2 minute 60% crit cooldown activated, a epic level 50 surge rating pot activated, with 2 stacks of the shock/project damage buff, and the original poster was probably level 10 with terrible armor rating. Given the exact same scenario but against a level 50 with decent armor, that same crit would be around 3200 (that's with tons of surge rating too). It's a little over the top, but certainly not as bad as some other things. Like death from above doing about 3k per crit on 5+ people, 3 times in a row (so 9k per person on 5 people over about 3 seconds), or snipers doing 4k+ from 35 yards away, etc. Edited December 25, 2011 by SeanPoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaodin Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 4.6k Shoot first crit with a 3k back blast crit followed by a 1900 blaster whip and 2k suckerpunch. Whats best? People still complain about sorc/sage. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasabiJack Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 4.6k Shoot first crit with a 3k back blast crit followed by a 1900 blaster whip and 2k suckerpunch. Whats best? People still complain about sorc/sage. Awesome! Your point is valid, and I have no issues with the purple lightning really. I would rather just no bubble. This is certianly possible, but the chances of it happening are so slim. You need to crit all 4 skills (how often do you crit four in a row?), Need to have really good equipment, opponent has to not react with a dodge type ability, you have to start from stealth, be behind the opponent and you need to be attacking a light or may be medium armor opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSKaneda Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) Oh noes, somebody died in PVP! Quick, Robin, to the whinemobile, we have to inform the world!! Edited December 25, 2011 by NSKaneda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastersix Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Im a scoundral and i can crit for 4.5k with first shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISGG Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 So I took a 4.5 crit from an Inquisitor today, no other class has hit me this hard. Is it just me or is this class already overpowered? I keep hearing sages and inquisitors are super strong. That's completely impossible by the way. If you're going to lie, at least do it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMACooper Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Quote: Originally Posted by Necrolepsy So I took a 4.5 crit from an Inquisitor today, no other class has hit me this hard. Is it just me or is this class already overpowered? I keep hearing sages and inquisitors are super strong. That's completely impossible by the way. If you're going to lie, at least do it correctly. /AGREED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPoe Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) I would rather just no bubble. If they remove bubble then sage/sorc needs a massive survivability buff to compensate. When bubble is down they're the weakest class in the game; Laughably easy to kill, especially if you stun their force rush so they can't sprint away, which any good player will do. Also, you have to keep in mind that they have to recast bubble every 20 seconds or so even if they're out of combat because they will die 100-0 in 4 seconds if a stealth class opens on them without it up. Other classes gets tons of passive survivability via armor which is enough to last through a stun so they can use some of their other survivability cooldowns. If a sage/sorc gets stunned with bubble down they will die 100-0 in those 4 seconds. Sage/sorc have ZERO survivability cooldowns so bubble is extremely necessary. People just see 'absorb' 'absorb' etc and assume the bubble is OP. What you don't realize is you're doing way less damage on other classes all of the time. Say a bounty hunter takes 15-20% less damage FOR FREE via armor and an additional 25% less from their generic survivability cooldown, so over 13k health that's like having effectively ~19k hp. A single bubble only absorbs about 3k so it's HALF AS GOOD. The armor alone would give more survivability than using bubble on cooldown (20% more damage reduction is about 2.5k more effective health for every 13k damage taken). Now realize these classes get this damage reduction FOR FREE, and it requires NO MAINTENANCE. People need to stop being ignorant on these forums and think before they blindly make assumptions that something is OP or UP. Edited December 25, 2011 by SeanPoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoloStarwind Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Was critting for 4214 with 5 heat sigs in blue 50 pvp gear with rail shot....not too mention higher 3500 heat seakers with the power up this convo is mute though. Sorcs i think just need to be even more squoshyif they have access to as much cc as they do. Cut there hp 1/4 and they can crit that hard and cc without being invincible like they seem at high lvls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovanmaru Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) On no guise! The *mage* class is doing burst damage? SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE! *meanwhile in Assassin Land --> 3.5k backstabs* I'll admit our 100% chance to crit for the next 2 foce abilities IS a bit OP. As a Sin I can just pop that and Force Lightning 500 damage a second (if not more). Edited December 25, 2011 by Ovanmaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISGG Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Was critting for 4214 with 5 heat sigs in blue 50 pvp gear with rail shot....not too mention higher 3500 heat seakers with the power up this convo is mute though. Sorcs i think just need to be even more squoshyif they have access to as much cc as they do. Cut there hp 1/4 and they can crit that hard and cc without being invincible like they seem at high lvls. Rofl @ "crit that hard." Literally every other class has better burst damage than sorc/sage. Every single one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPoe Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Was critting for 4214 with 5 heat sigs in blue 50 pvp gear with rail shot....not too mention higher 3500 heat seakers with the power up this convo is mute though. Sorcs i think just need to be even more squoshyif they have access to as much cc as they do. Cut there hp 1/4 and they can crit that hard and cc without being invincible like they seem at high lvls. Sage/sorc CC is no better than any other class (arguably worse than some even). Sage/sorc are already the squishiest class in the game. Sage/sorc already have the worst burst in the game. Stop being an ignorant fool repeating rhetoric you heard other people on these forums spouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBlackwater Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) Try being a low level shadow with ****** gear. I can't hit over 1k, I hardly see that as being OP Edited December 25, 2011 by IBlackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovanmaru Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 (edited) Try being a low level shadow with ****** gear. I can't hit over 1k, I hardly see that as being OP Please read my post at the top of this page. I just said...I'm an assassion (shadow's mirror class) and I crit for a f-ton with my backstab. The diffecence is I have years of Rogue experiance with various games and I know what I'm doing. Edited December 25, 2011 by Ovanmaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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