OddballEasyEight Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) OMG LOL! All I can think of is Alanis Morissette singing "Ironic". Well she didn't use the word right, so sure. Would you mind using one account please instead of two? Then again it's rather amusing watching you talk to yourself out of desperation. & it's against the rules to harass other forum members so i'd rather you keep your thoughts to yourself or you can message yourself on PM. That's a pretty serious accusation there. And I do believe it's you who's harassing me by this point, accusing me of using multiple accounts and all. (Oh and considering the fact that I and the other person you accuse as being my "other account" have argued in the past, that's a very flimsy theory of yours anyway) Edited January 19, 2015 by OddballEasyEight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 All he has to do is show proof and he wins the argument, I don't understand why it's so hard to realize this. Him not showing proof only hurts his cause and would make him lose his court case if this were dire and in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorwen Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Showing me proof that someone else is using a macro is not in any way helping me exploit the game. You're missing the point that people are still trying to take examples to unreasonable lengths as proof that they shouldn't get in trouble for exploiting the game. All you can really do is ignore their sad attempts to deflect. Maybe they will be one of the people that did it enough to get banned. Edited January 19, 2015 by Sorwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpickles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) You're missing the point that people are still trying to take examples to unreasonable lengths as proof that they shouldn't get in trouble for exploiting the game. All you can really do is ignore their sad attempts to deflect. Maybe they will be one of the people that did it enough to get banned. Doesn't matter. Enough legitimate people + gold farmers clicking by hand will make grade 11 mats cost 1500k per unit VERY SOON (another week?), and augs will be in the 25k range. having a macro WON'T MATTER because EVERYONE will be selling for 0 or a loss REGARDLESS OF MACROS. And I welcome it... I love paying 1/3 less to gear alts. Edited January 19, 2015 by captpickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Doesn't matter. Enough legitimate people + gold farmers clicking by hand will make grade 11 mats cost 1500k per unit VERY SOON (another week?), and augs will be in the 25k range. having a macro WON'T MATTER because EVERYONE will be selling for 0 or a loss REGARDLESS OF MACROS. And I welcome it... I love paying 1/3 less to gear alts. That's not quite true though. People will always try to sell what's most profitable. So when one mat starts going down in price, the people trying to profit will switch to selling another type of mat. There will never be a time where mats are sold for 0 profit or loss for any extended period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpickles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 That's not quite true though. People will always try to sell what's most profitable. So when one mat starts going down in price, the people trying to profit will switch to selling another type of mat. There will never be a time where mats are sold for 0 profit or loss for any extended period of time. Keyword : Extended .. This is true.. but there will be a hell of a fire sale as people try to cut their losses. But it *will not* got back up. it might spike for a day or two... but as soon as it does *BAM* 20 minutes later undercut city thanks to insta-slot-mats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Keyword : Extended .. This is true.. but there will be a hell of a fire sale as people try to cut their losses. But it *will not* got back up. it might spike for a day or two... but as soon as it does *BAM* 20 minutes later undercut city thanks to insta-slot-mats. No, It'll plummet if large groups of players decide to cash in on one particular mat. And then they will go to another mat because that mat is no longer profitable. Then the prices will go up again, but not to the original prices. But they will not stay at a non-profitable price. Because of the simple fact that people don't want to sell things at a loss, and thus will not sell them and instead hoard the mats for later use/sale and the prices will go up because fewer mats will be sold. And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpickles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No, It'll plummet if large groups of players decide to cash in on one particular mat. And then they will go to another mat because that mat is no longer profitable. Then the prices will go up again, but not to the original prices. But they will not stay at a non-profitable price. Because of the simple fact that people don't want to sell things at a loss, and thus will not sell them and instead hoard the mats for later use/sale and the prices will go up because fewer mats will be sold. And so on. Agreed, I was just stating that at best you will see a 100-500 credit profit at best... so around 2k a mat. And as soon as it gets to 3000 credits per mat 100 people will spend 10 minutes at a slot machine and flood and undercut it right back down to 50-100 credit profit per mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvenHardNiner Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 That's a pretty serious accusation there. Wow...you're accusing me now? That's kinda of against the rules and could be considered harassment. Please read the forum rules carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (Oh and considering the fact that I and the other person you accuse as being my "other account" have argued in the past, that's a very flimsy theory of yours anyway) Do you think he means me? Yeah, agree/disagree depends on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 All he has to do is show proof and he wins the argument, I don't understand why it's so hard to realize this. Him not showing proof only hurts his cause and would make him lose his court case if this were dire and in court. This is a game forum, not court. He doesn't need to show proof and the only people making this an "argument" are guys like you demanding proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTHC Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This is a game forum, not court. He doesn't need to show proof and the only people making this an "argument" are guys like you demanding proof. AMG people are still on this stupid "prove it" thing? Don't you find it funny, in a shake your head in wonder sort of way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolunart Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) This is a game forum, not court. He doesn't need to show proof and the only people making this an "argument" are guys like you demanding proof. On the other hand, with statements being tossed around like "prove they aren't using macros" and accusing multiple posters of being the same person, if he does not care to demonstrate proof of his claims then I have no reason to believe anything he says. I have a six-year-old niece whom I regard with greater respect. Edited January 19, 2015 by Tolunart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 AMG people are still on this stupid "prove it" thing? Don't you find it funny, in a shake your head in wonder sort of way? Absolutely. I don't even think using a macro would be a violation of the rules since 1 action must be 1 key...which I believe RIGHT CLICK falls under?! I bet a ton of us could set this up tonight in a minute given our hardware drivers...so what the hell would be the point of "proof" when I could prove it to be true with no effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This is a game forum, not court. He doesn't need to show proof and the only people making this an "argument" are guys like you demanding proof. No he does, that's how accusations work. Accuse someone of doing something wrong in a game, better have some proof to back it up beyond your word other wise it won't hold up. And that's all he has to do to shut everyone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Actually, though I don't have a source, and I may not be remembering this properly, I seem to recall them stating that macro use is not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 On the other hand, with statements being tossed around like "prove they aren't using macros" and accusing multiple posters of being the same person, if he does not care to demonstrate proof of his claims then I have no reason to believe anything he says. I have a six-year-old niece whom I regard with greater respect. Tough. You don't have to believe him. That doesn't mean you get to demand proof of something even your 6yr old niece could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No he does, that's how accusations work. This isn't court Reno...relax. He's making a claim. No proof needed, especially on something simplistic to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Absolutely. I don't even think using a macro would be a violation of the rules since 1 action must be 1 key...which I believe RIGHT CLICK falls under?! I bet a ton of us could set this up tonight in a minute given our hardware drivers...so what the hell would be the point of "proof" when I could prove it to be true with no effort? Because you're not the OP who made the original claim. Burden of Proof is on him and not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Actually, though I don't have a source, and I may not be remembering this properly, I seem to recall them stating that macro use is not allowed. I thought they said 1 keypress must = 1 keypress...so you could have "1,1,1,1,1,1,1" on a macro, but not "1,2,3,4,5,6,7". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Because you're not the OP who made the original claim. Burden of Proof is on him and not you. Burden of proof lol. So you don't think it's possible huh!? Got it. Move along Reno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolunart Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Tough. You don't have to believe him. That doesn't mean you get to demand proof of something even your 6yr old niece could do. I'm not demanding proof. I don't dispute that people are going to automate boring tasks that reward them. They surely will. The devs knew this and did it anyway. I don't get the outrage and accusations people toss around because of it. It's BW's game, if you suspect a problem you report it and move on. BW isn't going to involve you in their investigations, that is the full extent of your responsibility and involvement in the issue. Whatsisname who keeps posting this nonsense is just stirring up trouble for the halibut, and I have no reason to take anything he says seriously, including "this guy told me he was botting so there!" Edited January 19, 2015 by Tolunart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This isn't court Reno...relax. He's making a claim. No proof needed, especially on something simplistic to do. A baseless claim that holds no merit until he proves otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 A baseless claim that holds no merit until he proves otherwise. Another derailed thread by the same folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'm not demanding proof. I don't dispute that people are going to automate boring tasks that reward them. They surely will. The devs knew this and did it anyway. I don't get the outrage and accusations people toss around because of it. It's BW's game, if you suspect a problem you report it and move on. BW isn't going to involve you in their investigations, that is the full extent of your responsibility and involvement in the issue. Agreed. Sorry if I misunderstood your previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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