Who *is* the Inquisitor?

[Vicentegrev]

This is primarily a question of Advanced Class as it relates to the Inquisitor's storyline events

*disclaimer* I will keep spoilers to a minimum both for myself and others *disclaimer*

 

so I'm doing my first real Inquisitor play through and I chose Assassin mostly because it felt "right" considering the events of the Prologue and Act 1: skulking through tombs, killing your Master's rivals, stealing things etc all as apprentice to Zash.

 

now I know by the time of Act 3 you're an accomplished Sith and finish the 1-50 game in a very high and powerful position. This all says to me "Sorceror!", but what about in Act 2 (broad strokes please) considering at the end of Act 1 you're no longer an apprentice (?) , are you acting on your own behalf or still on the behalf of another?

[DarthDymond]

This is primarily a question of Advanced Class as it relates to the Inquisitor's storyline events

*disclaimer* I will keep spoilers to a minimum both for myself and others *disclaimer*

 

so I'm doing my first real Inquisitor play through and I chose Assassin mostly because it felt "right" considering the events of the Prologue and Act 1: skulking through tombs, killing your Master's rivals, stealing things etc all as apprentice to Zash.

 

now I know by the time of Act 3 you're an accomplished Sith and finish the 1-50 game in a very high and powerful position. This all says to me "Sorceror!", but what about in Act 2 (broad strokes please) considering at the end of Act 1 you're no longer an apprentice (?) , are you acting on your own behalf or still on the behalf of another?

From Act 2 onward, you're pretty much just working on your own behalf (or 'for the good of the Empire' if you play as a particularly civic-minded Inquisitor).

 

I always felt that Sorcerer AC fit the overall 'feel' of the class storyline better than Assassin would have, but that may just be because of the character traits of the movie characters they're most based on (Palpatine for Sorc and Maul for Assassin).

[SithKoriandr]

I think it really depends on how you see you Inquisitor. If you see them as the Sith version of Laura Croft/Indiana Jones...then Assassin works well imo.

[Rhyltran]

This is primarily a question of Advanced Class as it relates to the Inquisitor's storyline events

*disclaimer* I will keep spoilers to a minimum both for myself and others *disclaimer*

 

so I'm doing my first real Inquisitor play through and I chose Assassin mostly because it felt "right" considering the events of the Prologue and Act 1: skulking through tombs, killing your Master's rivals, stealing things etc all as apprentice to Zash.

 

now I know by the time of Act 3 you're an accomplished Sith and finish the 1-50 game in a very high and powerful position. This all says to me "Sorceror!", but what about in Act 2 (broad strokes please) considering at the end of Act 1 you're no longer an apprentice (?) , are you acting on your own behalf or still on the behalf of another?

 

While I did play as Assassin and I enjoyed my Assassin I will say the story seems more fit for a sorcerer later on. I'll avoid spoilers but let's say a lot of it involves gathering artifacts and performing rituals. This isn't to say that as an Assassin it doesn't make sense at all. Exar Kun was an excellent Double Bladed Lightsaber specialist while also being very accomplished in the mystic knowledge of the force.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Rhyltran

[Vicentegrev]

From Act 2 onward, you're pretty much just working on your own behalf (or 'for the good of the Empire' if you play as a particularly civic-minded Inquisitor).

 

I always felt that Sorcerer AC fit the overall 'feel' of the class storyline better than Assassin would have, but that may just be because of the character traits of the movie characters they're most based on (Palpatine for Sorc and Maul for Assassin).

 

 

 

that's what I was afraid of. Act 1 feels much like a Sidious (Zash) / Maul (You) relationship, but yea, from what I do know of Act 3 especially but Act 2 to a lesser extent, you become much more like Palpatine or in a different setting, the Wizard searching for hidden magiks

 

s'okay since I'm not terribly fond of the Assassin playstyle anyway

 

but id like to hear from Assassins who were able to interpret their SI's in a way more fitting of that advanced class too

[Rhyltran]

that's what I was afraid of. Act 1 feels much like a Sidious (Zash) / Maul (You) relationship, but yea, from what I do know of Act 3 especially but Act 2 to a lesser extent, you become much more like Palpatine or in a different setting, the Wizard searching for hidden magiks

 

s'okay since I'm not terribly fond of the Assassin playstyle anyway

 

but id like to hear from Assassins who were able to interpret their SI's in a way more fitting of that advanced class too

 

Well, I made an edit before you posted again. As an Assassin you feel very much like Exar Kun. If you want to get an idea if you don't know much about him http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Exar_Kun he was a very interesting Sith. Very much a blade specialist but also seeking out whatever artifacts/rituals he could get his hands on and in many cases casting rituals he didn't even fully understand. Again, without spoilers, that kind of sums up your character in SWTOR.

 

 

Your character casts a ritual that enables him to bind ghosts to him in order to increase his power. You later find out that this power isn't meant to bind more than one ghost to your body. In which case you start dying. Then you have to find a cure for this predicament in your search. This very much fits what is said about Exar Kun dabbling in things he didn't fully understand because he felt he had to in order to cement his position and his rule.

 

 

I felt very much like the reincarnation of Exar Kun when playing my Assassin as opposed to Maul or Palpatine.

[Exosasa]

I main an assassin, so it really hurts me to say this, but Sorcerer.

[Eidolooon]

Sorc all the way.

[VitalityPrime]

Having to be labeled an "Assassin" is one superficial thing I never liked about this game.

 

They should have called it something else.

 

In my opinion...the Sith AC should have been called Shadow...and the Jedi AC should have been Shade.

Edited November 24, 2014 by VitalityPrime

[Exosasa]

Having to be labeled an "Assassin" is one superficial thing I never liked about this game.

 

They should have called it something else.

 

In my opinion...the Sith AC should have been called Shadow...and the Jedi AC should have been Shade.

 

I agree, except I've always thought Sith Shade sounded badarse. Jedi Shadow is fine, imo.

[VitalityPrime]

I agree, except I've always thought Sith Shade sounded badarse. Jedi Shadow is fine, imo.

 

I was more thinking that Shadow is about darkness...while Shade is about protection.

[Exosasa]

I was more thinking that Shadow is about darkness...while Shade is about protection.

 

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[Rhyltran]

Having to be labeled an "Assassin" is one superficial thing I never liked about this game.

 

They should have called it something else.

 

In my opinion...the Sith AC should have been called Shadow...and the Jedi AC should have been Shade.

 

Problem is that there's been references to jedi shadows before SWTOR.

[dcaleb]

Considering that their story heavily revolves around ancient artifacts and mystics arts instead of assassinating people, I feel that the sorcerer class just fits a lot better with the narrative.

I mean, in the end they literally become the person in charge of all such things and at the start of Makeb we see them messing around with some artifacts before they are interrupted by a call from Marr.

Edited November 24, 2014 by dcaleb

[SithKoriandr]

Considering that their story heavily revolves around ancient artifacts and mystics arts instead of assassinating people, I feel that the sorcerer class just fits a lot better with the narrative.

I mean, in the end they literally become the person in charge of all such things and at the start of Makeb we see them messing around with some artifacts before they are interrupted by a call from Marr.

 

So Sith Adventurer. Sith Pirate. Sith Explorer. Sith Leader.

 

But how do I get my Assassin to fit into the story? By thinking less an Assassin and more someone akin to artifact retrieval experts like Lara Croft, Indiana Jones or even Dora.

[dcaleb]

So Sith Adventurer. Sith Pirate. Sith Explorer. Sith Leader.

 

But how do I get my Assassin to fit into the story? By thinking less an Assassin and more someone akin to artifact retrieval experts like Lara Croft, Indiana Jones or even Dora.

 

There is a difference between the Inquisitor and all of those people, they actively make use of the artifacts and rituals they obtain instead of wanting to put them in a museum or otherwise just collect dust. The things they get are, to them, a means to an end instead of being the goal themselves.

[Exosasa]

So Sith Adventurer. Sith Pirate. Sith Explorer. Sith Leader.

 

But how do I get my Assassin to fit into the story? By thinking less an Assassin and more someone akin to artifact retrieval experts like Lara Croft, Indiana Jones or even Dora.

 

She can feeeel your hate.... http://i.imgur.com/BnZZKyk.jpg

[CrutchCricket]

Try making your Inquisitor Maul clone 20492136. That's an agonizing decision. I ultimately went Sorcerer because ALL the Lightning. And the heals.

 

And honestly it does feel better. Sure in Act One you're just doing what you're told but almost all Sith do that when they start out. No one really goes straight from nobody to Darth Awesome.

 

I would say Consular is made for Sage as well. I went Shadow just to try the other side and while I liked the stealth I missed all the perks of the other AC and it felt weird to be a mainly combat class but do all this mystical stuff in cutscenes. I basically just imagined I was mastering that stuff offscreen and when my character(s) aren't MMOified they're stealthy mystical, heal-y ******es who can wield double-bladed lightsabers to their heart's content.

Edited November 25, 2014 by CrutchCricket

[Exosasa]

Try making your Inquisitor Maul clone 20492136. That's an agonizing decision. I ultimately went Sorcerer because ALL the Lightning. And the heals.

 

And honestly it does feel better. Sure in Act One you're just doing what you're told but almost all Sith do that when they start out. No one really goes straight from nobody to Darth Awesome.

 

I would say Consular is made for Sage as well. I went Shadow just to try the other side and while I liked the stealth I missed all the perks of the other AC and it felt weird to be a mainly combat class but do all this mystical stuff in cutscenes. I basically just imagined I was mastering that stuff offscreen and when my character(s) aren't MMOified they're stealthy mystical, heal-y ******es who can wield double-bladed lightsabers to their heart's content.

 

I thought tank shadow was better fitting of Consular. I mean.. "protecting people..." meh.

[Ridickilis]

I thought tank shadow was better fitting of Consular. I mean.. "protecting people..." meh.

 

Yeah I thought that at least fit better than the assassin did for this story (not that I'm saying the sin doesn't fit, mind you).

 

But having both on both sides while rolling both the shadow and sin first, I thought the Sage and Sorc fit the stories just a hair better. I think I had more of a "martial" story in mind when I rolled my shadow and sin and you could say I was somewhat disappointed with both stories as a result. I appreciated both stories more the second times through as a sorc and sage.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Ridickilis

[vathouille]

A big issue stems from the fact that shadows and assassins are definitely more fighter classes than Force wielding ones and it feels like they got shoehorned there because they needed to have a class with double bladed saber.

 

I don't really see how Darth Maul can be considered the inspiration for this class as he had nothing remotely inquisitor-like and was a pure hatred driven fighter.

 

Moreover, doubled bladed lightsabers are not really common because they are often considered impractical. A Jedi/Sith focusing on mastery of the force would have little use for such a weapon.

 

It may have been better to give dual and double bladed lightsabers to the sentinel/marauder and find a more convincing seconday class for sage/inq.

[Exosasa]

A big issue stems from the fact that shadows and assassins are definitely more fighter classes than Force wielding ones and it feels like they got shoehorned there because they needed to have a class with double bladed saber.

 

I don't really see how Darth Maul can be considered the inspiration for this class as he had nothing remotely inquisitor-like and was a pure hatred driven fighter.

 

Moreover, doubled bladed lightsabers are not really common because they are often considered impractical. A Jedi/Sith focusing on mastery of the force would have little use for such a weapon.

 

It may have been better to give dual and double bladed lightsabers to the sentinel/marauder and find a more convincing seconday class for sage/inq.

 

Ever heard of the Niman form?

[Rhyltran]

A big issue stems from the fact that shadows and assassins are definitely more fighter classes than Force wielding ones and it feels like they got shoehorned there because they needed to have a class with double bladed saber.

 

I don't really see how Darth Maul can be considered the inspiration for this class as he had nothing remotely inquisitor-like and was a pure hatred driven fighter.

 

Moreover, doubled bladed lightsabers are not really common because they are often considered impractical. A Jedi/Sith focusing on mastery of the force would have little use for such a weapon.

 

It may have been better to give dual and double bladed lightsabers to the sentinel/marauder and find a more convincing seconday class for sage/inq.

 

Your assessment is incorrect. I've stated this earlier in the thread. See Exar Kun. A double bladed lightsaber wielding sith who was not only an excellent fighter but had knowledge of very advanced Sith Rituals that he used to supplement his style. As mentioned, going the assassin route is more "Exar Kun" than "Maul."

[vathouille]

Ever heard of the Niman form?

 

I knew of Niman as the favoured form of Force users that did not want to devote time to focus on blade mastery, but what I did not know is that it originated from martial arts based on dual blades. I was indeed incorrect on that score (yup, I did some research following that comment and learned something, which is always good I guess).

 

In any case, I'll accept Exar Kun as a reasonable model for the class, but Maul defiinitely does not fit the bill. He did wield a double bladed saber and acted as an assassin; but that's as far as it goes. Maul was mostly a Juyo user and favoured powers more associated with the warrior class, though I don't doubt that he had knowledge of other powers and was possibly a proficient niman practicioner. However, he certainly lacked the thirst for secrets and arcane knowledge.

[Exosasa]

I knew of Niman as the favoured form of Force users that did not want to devote time to focus on blade mastery, but what I did not know is that it originated from martial arts based on dual blades. I was indeed incorrect on that score (yup, I did some research following that comment and learned something, which is always good I guess).

 

In any case, I'll accept Exar Kun as a reasonable model for the class, but Maul defiinitely does not fit the bill. He did wield a double bladed saber and acted as an assassin; but that's as far as it goes. Maul was mostly a Juyo user and favoured powers more associated with the warrior class, though I don't doubt that he had knowledge of other powers and was possibly a proficient niman practicioner. However, he certainly lacked the thirst for secrets and arcane knowledge.

 

Everyone knows that Maul was just a warrior with the wrong weapon.

 

 

To the sentence I highlighted above... LOL. Quite the opposite, my friend. Niman masters are created through mastering all/I] other forms and combining them. It is the purest from of first-level indirect Force capabilities*. Saber attacks infused with the Force, or saber attacks followed by direct force attacks. Niman is mastery of the Force chained into mastery of the saber. That's real powah.

 

* Indirect Force attacks, like using the Force to throw a saber or leap great bounds. Force-assisted acrobatics, or channeling Force lightning into a saber. Direct Force attacks would be straight up lightning-ing someone