kvandertulip Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos_KidSWTOR Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Me either, hybrids are stupid and should die in a fire. Like they are in 3.0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnickerJew Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Rip hybrids you will not be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namesaretough Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnickerJew Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm sad You're subbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namesaretough Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 yep45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svii Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm a bit sad about Hybrid going, but I'm expecting the changes to the three Disciplines (especially Sab/Eng) will more than make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieGhostDie Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 #RIP Hybrids M8s. Marksmanship OP 3.0 NERF MM SPEC EVEN FRTHR #GGGGGGGG I want my $15 dollars back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardarell_Solo Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I am. Was a real challenge to play pre 2.0. with super expensive freighter - it was difficult to keep up your rotation. The reward was awesome. Been playing it more often lately after a break and had a lot of fun with sustained dpsing and splashing AOE all over the place with thermal grenade spamming: I absolutely love doing Bestia, Calph, Draxus and Corruptor with it. I generally like hybrids in the sense of playing a combination that's different from what most other people play. I admit though, that this applied to Slinger hybrid pre 2.0, because it was quite difficult to play so not everyone adopted it like Dotsmash later or Sage hybrid pre 2.0. Cause if everyone plays it, a hybrid build loses that aura of being strange and exceptional. Anyway, I like fooling around with skill points and looking for unexpected synergies and then optimizing rotations. I think it was something creative to do... Edited October 8, 2014 by Ardarell_Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 good points ardarell. it makes me sad too. i'm playing hybrid sage heal at grobtok because our dps cannot handle the adds alone. hybrid scoundrel is fantastic to play since 2.0, not to mention the many hybrid options the shadow skill tree offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I am. Was a real challenge to play pre 2.0. with super expensive freighter - it was difficult to keep up your rotation. The reward was awesome. Been playing it more often lately after a break and had a lot of fun with sustained dpsing and splashing AOE all over the place with thermal grenade spamming: I absolutely love doing Bestia, Calph, Draxus and Corruptor with it. I generally like hybrids in the sense of playing a combination that's different from what most other people play. I admit though, that this applied to Slinger hybrid pre 2.0, because it was quite difficult to play so not everyone adopted it like Dotsmash later or Sage hybrid pre 2.0. Cause if everyone plays it, a hybrid build loses that aura of being strange and exceptional. Anyway, I like fooling around with skill points and looking for unexpected synergies and then optimizing rotations. I think it was something creative to do... I really REALLY hated it because I was playing DF ever since my slinger dinged lvl50 and I always got told "Why are you even playing DF? Hybrid is sooo much better". No, **** you and **** your hybrid too. (this isn't for you I just usally said this to those who wanted me as hybrid) Hybrid should've never been better than full DF in every respect. Most other hybrids at least had disadvantages compared to the full trees but not this abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnickerJew Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I really REALLY hated it because I was playing DF ever since my slinger dinged lvl50 and I always got told "Why are you even playing DF? Hybrid is sooo much better". No, **** you and **** your hybrid too. (this isn't for you I just usally said this to those who wanted me as hybrid) Hybrid should've never been better than full DF in every respect. Most other hybrids at least had disadvantages compared to the full trees but not this abomination. Pretty much this. I never ran Hybrid in raids mainly because I knew it wasn't going to last, although it lasted for a very long time. There are no single target fights/parses showing Hybrid does more than DF or SS currently, but that's not to say it isn't on par; there's just no proof. Regardless, RIP and good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerry Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Pretty much this. I never ran Hybrid in raids mainly because I knew it wasn't going to last, although it lasted for a very long time. There are no single target fights/parses showing Hybrid does more than DF or SS currently, but that's not to say it isn't on par; there's just no proof. Regardless, RIP and good riddance. C'mon yolo you know you loved when certain people parsed for hours and hours to break 3.9k back when that was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemii Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I am upset that I now have to learn how to play my toons an the devs intended... I knew it wouldn't last so not holding anything against them for correcting their oversight with skill trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieGhostDie Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Ya'll Hybrid lovers just need to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikaru_Kuma Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm sad, I'll have to learn MM/ DF again. MM is too stationary and DF has too many dots/ rolling for max dps for my taste, so hybrid was perfect for me. Hybrid was a viable spec and rarely any pug does it these days, it make me feel slightly unique when playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm sad, I'll have to learn MM/ DF again. MM is too stationary and DF has too many dots/ rolling for max dps for my taste, so hybrid was perfect for me. Hybrid was a viable spec and rarely any pug does it these days, it make me feel slightly unique when playing it. oO Hybrid had more dots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikaru_Kuma Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) oO Hybrid had more dots Hybrid has 3 dots and Explosive probe. DF has whatchamacallit with 10 stacks o.O Anyway, I still hate that I have to roll around for max dps lol. Edited October 8, 2014 by Hikaru_Kuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenCordial Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Anyway, I still hate that I have to roll around for max dps lol. This. I'll be fine with DF/Sab being gone if another Smuggler dots don't interact with my Weakening Shot and roll for DPS remains an exclusively Sab trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namesaretough Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I am. Was a real challenge to play pre 2.0. with super expensive freighter - it was difficult to keep up your rotation. The reward was awesome. That's why I liked it. Even after the cg cost nerf in 2.0 made energy management easier it was still a spec that rewarded you for knowing when and how far you could push your energy to a level that lethality just doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Stupid Devs are only removing Hybrid because they do not understand nor embrace the intricate rotation needed to perform well in raids:http://oi58.tinypic.com/2lmkr9k.jpg Edited October 9, 2014 by MFollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvandertulip Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Stupid Devs are only removing Hybrid because they do not understand nor embrace the intricate rotation needed to perform well in raids: http://oi58.tinypic.com/2lmkr9k.jpg There are a lot of reasons to remove hybrids, and this is not one of them. Your screenshot is a great example of why hybrids are terrible from a balance perspective. In hybrid on this fight you can do as good AOE damage as the AOE spec with single target damage that is twice as good. That is not fair to Sabslingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardarell_Solo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) a spec that rewarded you for knowing when and how far you could push your energy to a level that lethality just doesn't. Yeah, that's exactly the point. Making the right decisions quickly under changing circumstances meant doing a much better job at dpsing. Meaning rotational skill scaled your output more significantly than in any other Slinger spec - hardly any other AC except maybe Combat Sent has(d) that. I can see how players didn't like Dotsmash, since the skill needed to perform better than in any other full spec was lower than in the full specs (Though maxing out Dotsmash wasn't that easy at all). With Hybrid pre 2.0. I often got asked by other Slingers, how I pulled the numbers I did. I often took a lot of time to explain Hybrid to them and coach them. But 90% of the people told me some time later that they abandoned the specc since they found it too difficult and couldn't handle the harsh energy requirement. Only a few players who really dug into the spec for weeks and months kept at it. And I still get that theses days, when people see me play hybrid: How do you do those numbers, I always run out of energy, Hybrid is so unforgiving... To be clear about that: I'm actually in favour of getting rid of Hybrids for the sake of the explanation given by Devs: Less time needed for class balancing. Because this hopefully means more content to play. I'd always trade that for the chance to play individual, strange builds that make me feel like a special snowflake ;-) I'll miss them, yes, but I can absolutely see, why Hybrids have to go... Edited October 9, 2014 by Ardarell_Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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