Projawa Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I hope BW doesn't start phoning it in with these design choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Try it, quite a few people in Drop it Like it's Hoth have solo'd it Too funny. Unverifiable internet claims are ...unverifiable. Don't ever change. yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Too funny. Unverifiable internet claims are ...unverifiable. It can be soloed. Note that doesn't mean it's easy to do. I tip my hat those players that can pull it off. Edited September 9, 2014 by Khevar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It can be soloed. How many wipes? No way to tell, is there? "Can be soloed" wiping 20 times just to prove it can be soloed doesn't really say much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) How many wipes? No way to tell, is there? "Can be soloed" wiping 20 times just to prove it can be soloed doesn't really say much. Probably a ton of wipes. If you get unlucky on which panel you click on the pipes, you'll keep chasing Sav Rak around the room and eventually die. Note that I heavily disagree with Lacedemon trying to make it seem like LI was so easy as to be worthless. DLiH had the first NM Dread Guard kill pre-nerf, so it's apparent there are a number of great players in that guild. But it's just more than a little disingenuous to pretend that LI holds no challenge at all. Edited September 9, 2014 by Khevar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Probably a ton of wipes. If you get unlucky on which panel you click on the pipes, you'll keep chasing Sav Rak around the room and eventually die. Note that I heavily disagree with Lacedemon trying to make it seem like LI was so easy as to be worthless. DLiH had the first NM Dread Guard kill pre-nerf, so it's apparent there are a number of great players in that guild. But it's just more than a little disingenuous to pretend that LI holds no challenge at all. As I said, it's easy to claim whatever you want on the internet. Edited September 9, 2014 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 That's a lie. In a Twitch stream, they said we could expect HM versions of these flashpoints in the future. I definitely hope I'm mistaken...but when they said that it stuck out for me as quite disappointing. Hopefully I'm not remembering correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I think both of the difficulties are right where they should be, but I do still think that harder content should be added in the future. Our hardcore players need some candy as well IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EranofArcadia Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Pssht, I can solo NiM DP with no companion or gear on. Seriously, though, I don't mind getting my story in interactive cutscenes and I have other ways to challenge myself, but I do hope all the TFPs get HMs eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskaeth Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It's funny how some people have built in switch that makes'em cry when someone points out x content can be soloed. When they have obviously tried and failed. It's clear case of "I can't do it. Neither should you and I am here to argue to the end of days!!". Just add a massive doze of denial as a cherry on top and we have a winner. Pst. when LI came out, I pugged it with totally random people and we did it in about two hours. Sure, challenge for a pug with no guide whatsoever and no voip, but not impossible, quite the contrary. We even had a tank who was tanking for the very first time. In the end, much like soloing the new tacticals, it was the same with LI (pugging it with normal players), you just need not be really really bad and you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It is the same with Maanan, you can solo that as well. That said, why do people hold Lost Island up on a pedalstall. That FP was also a piece of piss to run, harder than the rest but still faceroll... LOL your so full. of it Lost island when max level was 50 and it was still a legitimate teir 2 flashpoint was VERY HARD and Challenging to run on hard mode And anyone claiming any different is full of doggy doo! There was very few guilds that could claim to have original lost island hard mode on farm (Farm doesnt mean it was easy, just we had the flashpoint down pat after endless run working out all the kinks and issues) and I truly doubt you were in those groups that did based completely on you ignorance of the facts. I would love to see new flashpoints the same difficulty as old school Lost Island hard mode but doubt we ever will. I mean look at how many people whined and moaned and complained about Makeb and got it nerfed and dumbed down when Makeb was pretty much already on easy mode difficulty setting BEFORE the dumbing down. New generation of players do not want to be challenged They want easy content, fast leveling, uber gear given to them The days of players wanting to be challenged are over for most part So OP, dont expect hard challening content going forward Its not what the majority of genre want Todays MMORPG players just want everything handed to them with out issue or problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daekarus Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Ran this FP with guildies and one person dropped. We didn't notice, really. I liked the content, but I would have liked to see the boss mechanics made a bit more meaningful. They were so meaningless that I didn't even really notice any except when the Rancor smacked me across the map. I'm pretty sure there was some kind of swapping mechanic on the last boss because there were VOs that sounded like telegraphing, but I never figured out what was going on. We just tank/spanked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 LOL your so full. of it Lost island when max level was 50 and it was still a legitimate teir 2 flashpoint was VERY HARD and Challenging to run on hard mode And anyone claiming any different is full of doggy doo! There was very few guilds that could claim to have original lost island hard mode on farm (Farm doesnt mean it was easy, just we had the flashpoint down pat after endless run working out all the kinks and issues) and I truly doubt you were in those groups that did based completely on you ignorance of the facts. I would love to see new flashpoints the same difficulty as old school Lost Island hard mode but doubt we ever will. I mean look at how many people whined and moaned and complained about Makeb and got it nerfed and dumbed down when Makeb was pretty much already on easy mode difficulty setting BEFORE the dumbing down. New generation of players do not want to be challenged They want easy content, fast leveling, uber gear given to them The days of players wanting to be challenged are over for most part So OP, dont expect hard challening content going forward Its not what the majority of genre want Todays MMORPG players just want everything handed to them with out issue or problem. In my days, if you failed in MMOs, people could punch you through your computer! And we LIKED it that way! now, get offa mah lawn you durn whippersnappers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EranofArcadia Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 My second run through, one of the players got somehow locked out of the first boss fight, AND the Rancor's health reset at around 30%. Yet there was no real difficulty in beating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khevar Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 In my days, if you failed in MMOs, people could punch you through your computer! And we LIKED it that way! Sounds like Ninja Gaiden on Hard Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know it's a Tactical and it is supposed to be easy but this is too easy. Mechanics to make people think would be nice, like the last 3. Original Lost Island was an amazing FP, the challenge was perfect took a month or 2 to PuG through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I know it's a Tactical and it is supposed to be easy but this is too easy. Mechanics to make people think would be nice, like the last 3. Original Lost Island was an amazing FP, the challenge was perfect took a month or 2 to PuG through it. LI is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sounds like Ninja Gaiden on Hard Mode. Such an awesome game at the time. That game and Halo 2 back in 2004 made all the difference for my first Xbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 LI is overrated. Name a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Name a better one. The False Emperor is superior to LI any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I just looove the e-peen waving in this thread. so players of the high end progression guild, capable of killing NIM pre-nerf, geared in dread master/ dread touched gear with their companions wearing much of the same - can solo tactical that is meant for 4 average people in lvl 53 blues. FLASHPOINTS ARE TOO EASY! incidentally, I can solo Tython and Korriban.... with care and only on my raiding healers. I cannot solo last boss of Manaan, because I cannot beat the timer, but on other characters, I cannot get through trash because they hit like trucks and trash groups are fairly large. haven't tried Rakata prime yet, but if there are no timers, I could probably do it. again, with care. however. I kinda remember that 1. my gear and my presence (and the fact that I can spam heal to keep myself and comp alive) can compensate for a lot. 2. I might not be anywhere near top progression guilds, but I'm also slightly above your average flashpoint running in skill. just like NIM operations are not meant for some people... maybe, just maybe , these flashpoints are meant for your average player, and NOT progression Ace? maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The False Emperor is superior to LI any day. I think he meant difficulty. False Emperor is far more accessible than Lost Island ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think he meant difficulty. False Emperor is far more accessible than Lost Island ever was. LI was never difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 LI was never difficult. Lmao good trollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 LI was never difficult. really Reno. really? LI mechanics were pretty unforgiving, still can be. everywhere else, including false emperor, you could screw up and still win. screw up in Lost Island usually meant death. many a group disbanded on Droid boss because they just couldn't get positioning/mechanics right. and the ones that did, would still have some trouble on later bosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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