Dawginole Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 WZ's are dying again and I am on one of the most heavily populated wz servers there is. One problem seems to be the faction ratio. Most servers are 2:1 or 3:1 one faction to the other. What happens as you devs know is that the highly populated faction ends up playing same faction vs same faction since more are queued on that side then on the other faction. However, this then slows the queue of the light faction side while they wait for these same factions matches to finish. This especially gets very bad late at night where you can see it plainly by going from one side with rapid same faction vs same faction pops and then going to the other faction and seeing long queue times into the over 30min-1hr mark. Since you don't plan to implement cross server queuing since apparently the game doesn't need it, you don't have the tech or resources or whatever, then should we all just pick one particular faction on our servers to pvp on and just do all same faction vs same faction pvp? Would this solve much of the long queue problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 Friday night prime time. Log on to Jugg on P5. Pop. Pop. Pop. Finish daily, go to Rep side and stand there for 20min no pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masih_ad_dajjal Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm on pot5 too and have 1 55 pub yet I don't think I've ever waited longer that 5 min for reg to pop... In fact just longing in with my sage hit queue solo and popped in less than 1 min. even solo rank pops quite regularly for there being quite a bit less players. And deff some good pub players despite less numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm on pot5 too and have 1 55 pub So you don't have a 55 Imp to compare it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masih_ad_dajjal Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 So you don't have a 55 Imp to compare it to? I have 7 55 imps and deff play them much more often...so yeah I can compare the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masih_ad_dajjal Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) I do think cross faction is a good idea though and cross server would be ****<<<=awesome Edited May 31, 2014 by masih_ad_dajjal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 I do think cross faction is a good idea though and cross server would be ****<<<=awesome Eric reiterated on stream tonight that nothing was planned for any cross server in any aspect of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undying-Rage Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Eric reiterated on stream tonight that nothing was planned for any cross server in any aspect of the game. Then I can officially declare this game dead. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Then I can officially declare this game dead. lol They said the same about Guild Ships and Legacy Storage and look what's happening.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarizAA Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I do not know the reason behind this, but lack of cross-server pvp simply killing pvp. On a heavy loaded servers it is not be a big issue, but SWTOR almost never has heavy loaded servers nowaday. Some are light most of the time. Sometimes it takes hours waiting for a single pop. Anyway, if SWTOR playerbase will shrink so fast, we all will be on the same global server soon, so spending time for cross-server is not wise money spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMaulUK Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Two main reasons - sure, some players are leaving because they are fed up but the main reason is that many are switching to preferred and with that comes a cap on PvP. Yes some can pay for weekly passes but probably some don't. Bioware said they would remove this cap months ago but never have. But after that infamous Q&A is it any wonder people spend less time because the time investment just isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 They said the same about Guild Ships and Legacy Storage and look what's happening.. Yeah well legacy storage is something that is tied into the CM and I guarantee so will guild ships in one way or another. Both, along with the new player housing will generate money while cross servers will not increase their revenue, at least no where near as much as guild ships or player housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechTheHic Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yeah well legacy storage is something that is tied into the CM and I guarantee so will guild ships in one way or another. Both, along with the new player housing will generate money while cross servers will not increase their revenue, at least no where near as much as guild ships or player housing. They can sell cross server passes. $5 a week. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duigha Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 They can sell cross server passes. $5 a week. lol You nailed it Bioware said they would remove this cap months ago but never have. But after that infamous Q&A is it any wonder people spend less time because the time investment just isn't worth it. Yeah, promises means No. They said the same about Guild Ships and Legacy Storage and look what's happening.. This means no problems to be implemented, but X-server means working deeply into architecture, which was badly designed from start. Not happening, especially now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd rather wait 5 more minutes then have another game ruined by x-server/faction queue crud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd rather wait 5 more minutes then have another game ruined by x-server/faction queue crud. How would it ruin it? While cross server is only a band-aid fix it does open the door to other possibilities like drastically improved matchmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yeah well legacy storage is something that is tied into the CM and I guarantee so will guild ships in one way or another. Both, along with the new player housing will generate money while cross servers will not increase their revenue, at least no where near as much as guild ships or player housing. well the galactic strongholds page shows CREDIT VALUES for the housing and rooms, while some stuff probably will go on the cm, its also likely that a lot of stuff will be purchasable through credits too like we got now with say regular storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashuranrx Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Sorry bro. It is just your server that is dying, probably due to release of Wildstar. http://www.torstatus.net/ POT5 is third from bottom in server activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undying-Rage Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 well the galactic strongholds page shows CREDIT VALUES for the housing and rooms, while some stuff probably will go on the cm, its also likely that a lot of stuff will be purchasable through credits too like we got now with say regular storage. Bad things have happened when the words of the devs were taken in the past. The new expansions are going to gouge the playerbase and focus on the CM. That's the whole focus of TOR now. Coin Wars: The Cartel Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Bad things have happened when the words of the devs were taken in the past. The new expansions are going to gouge the playerbase and focus on the CM. That's the whole focus of TOR now. Coin Wars: The Cartel Republic. I will only listen to you IF that actually happens, right now we are scarce on details (actually a new video came up which brought up some good stuff) but there is no actual proof that it will focus ob the cm and "gouge the playerbase" (because you know, its not like people have free will to not buy stuff from the cm oh noes ). You are getting really repetitive with your arguements you know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechTheHic Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Sorry bro. It is just your server that is dying, probably due to release of Wildstar. http://www.torstatus.net/ POT5 is third from bottom in server activity. Doesn't look like the highest pop server is much higher TBH. EDIT: Or at least if you take away the top 2. Apparently this really is a role playing game. Edited June 3, 2014 by TechTheHic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undies Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Friday night prime time. Log on to Jugg on P5. Pop. Pop. Pop. Finish daily, go to Rep side and stand there for 20min no pop. Either your que was broke and you needed to reque or relog, or you're enjoying trolling by over-exaggerating. I've never had to wait that long on prime time, ever, on pub or imp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 Doesn't look like the highest pop server is much higher TBH. EDIT: Or at least if you take away the top 2. Apparently this really is a role playing game. RP will always be high because there are only two servers, one east, one west. But as for the original post on this link, you're right, the difference in population between the #2 server and #10 server is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undying-Rage Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 So it isn't POt5 that's only dying, especially with ESO and Wildstar out now TOR as a whole is suffering and bleeding more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawginole Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 So it isn't POt5 that's only dying, especially with ESO and Wildstar out now TOR as a whole is suffering and bleeding more players. Just wait until the level cap expansion is announced as delayed until "early 2015" and people start to realize that we won't have a new operation for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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