tunewalker Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Obviously not all of it, or I'd have Massive fleets too, (Sienar lent battleships to multiple different systems, and hired them out to others for different conflicts) I thought it was just a small starting garrison and Schematics, as I think Tune already factored Battle Dragons into the equation. Battle dragons are part of the GADF it was not including hapes in my calcs. Edit: again thanks all that are helping be back again later. Edited February 17, 2014 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Do they? Well they have access to those forces so I guess 10-20 in terms of the reductions. They also have the armies too. Ohh, do I get extra from loaned Fleets 10-20 seems a bit steep, considering the sizes of fleets most of us have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Being a tactician wasn't the point of the post. It was saying that before Battle Meditation is discovered in someone, it's usually thought to be tactical ingenuity. Well, alrighty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Does the Mass Shadow Generator exist in this Kaggath? (This is a Beni question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Does the Mass Shadow Generator exist in this Kaggath? (This is a Beni question) No. I asked before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ohh, do I get extra from loaned Fleets 10-20 seems a bit steep, considering the sizes of fleets most of us have....I fairly sure you got a similar number from Santhe/Sienar. They do number in the millions apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 No. I asked before.Doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Doesn't it? I was under the impression it still exsisted there as the Taint is still there and the Academy is still there and the difficulty of landing on it or approaching it is still there none of which was there afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Doesn't it? You need to make up your mind.... It seems like you're just changing the factions around trying to make them an even match, instead of what they're supposed to be. You said no to make sure I lost to vader, You're not saying Yes so I lose to Luke. And also, the Crystal thing, saying Yes so my fleet matched more with Marcelo's, and saying No so I lose to the AOW? Can we PLEASE just have the things we've settled on SINCE THE START? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I fairly sure you got a similar number from Santhe/Sienar. They do number in the millions apparently. Thousands, and that's a character statement, Wookiee says hundreds. And a Sienar Fleet would consist of more than the Hapans IMO, as the Hapans were a restricted empire, Sienar lent to the republic, Empire, Multiple different sector fleets... Just keep the garrisons to a minimum. Oh, and I got 8. Not 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I was under the impression it still exsisted there as the Taint is still there and the Academy is still there and the difficulty of landing on it or approaching it is still there none of which was there afterwards. Taint had nothing to do with it remaining. Academy had nothing to do with it remaining. Landing had nothing to do with it remaining. This point is Moot anyway, Bao Dur was the only one with any knowledge of how to activate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You need to make up your mind.... It seems like you're just changing the factions around trying to make them an even match, instead of what they're supposed to be. You said no to make sure I lost to vader, You're not saying Yes so I lose to Luke. And also, the Crystal thing, saying Yes so my fleet matched more with Marcelo's, and saying No so I lose to the AOW? Can we PLEASE just have the things we've settled on SINCE THE START? I don't think he's conspiring against you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I don't think he's conspiring against you... Not what I meant, I meant him changing his mind has changed the outcome of debates entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Malachor V is the biggest issue for the AoW. I seriously hate that planet. I think I'm just going to pretend it doesn't exist for now, and cross that bridge when the AoW gets to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Malachor V is the biggest issue for the AoW. I seriously hate that planet. I think I'm just going to pretend it doesn't exist for now, and cross that bridge when the AoW gets to it. Precisely, to be honest, I couldn't care less about this fleet business, or massive troops. Traya'd happily send the entire force out into Deep Space, leave Assassins and Shadow Troops behind, with Hk and Maul, and just sit it out. This planet should totally have been banned Edited February 17, 2014 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Not what I meant, I meant him changing his mind has changed the outcome of debates entirely. Well that's what it sounded like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Who's piloting the DI's ships? Edited February 17, 2014 by Warren-Stride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Precisely, to be honest, I couldn't care less about this fleet business, or massive troops. Traya'd happily send the entire force out into Deep Space, leave Assassins and Shadow Troops behind, with Hk and Maul, and just sit it out. This planet should totally have been banned Forget Rakata-enhanced stealth ships, Malachor is the reason I'm hesitant to face your faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Who's piloting the DI's ships? Same people who piloted Revans Navy.... I dont know why, ask Beni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well that's what it sounded like. My mistake then, was just using examples that I know well enough to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) You need to make up your mind.... It seems like you're just changing the factions around trying to make them an even match, instead of what they're supposed to be. You said no to make sure I lost to vader, You're not saying Yes so I lose to Luke. And also, the Crystal thing, saying Yes so my fleet matched more with Marcelo's, and saying No so I lose to the AOW? Can we PLEASE just have the things we've settled on SINCE THE START?Lol actually I just don't remember. The more plausible explanation... And I don't remember saying anything about you building more fleets from magic appearing crystals. Nor do I see how the Mass Shadow Generator could be anything other than a boon to your faction and possibly alter the outcome of the last Kaggath. Perhaps we need some air. EDIT: Of course the whole thing is rigged because I totally hate you or something. EDIT: Okey looking back I said no to the MSG because its a super weapon. Funnily enough its you who asked for it. Edited February 17, 2014 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Forget Rakata-enhanced stealth ships, Malachor is the reason I'm hesitant to face your faction. Malachor is one of the reasons I LOVE Revan as a character, a reason too many people ignore... I mean come on, a Sith Lord that killed ALL his enemies, the Jedi not loyal to him, the Mandalorians, and then forged an army using the planet he slaughtered? Sooo Cool. And of course, a Sith Lord who sends messages to Jedi by destroying their planned Retreat-world, instead of their homeworld, just to turn more to his cause? ****** if I do say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thousands, and that's a character statement, Wookiee says hundreds. And a Sienar Fleet would consist of more than the Hapans IMO, as the Hapans were a restricted empire, Sienar lent to the republic, Empire, Multiple different sector fleets... Just keep the garrisons to a minimum. Oh, and I got 8. Not 20.Which is what I originally based it off. A entire fleet of hundreds or possibly millions of ships waiting in the wings seems more able to provided ships that a ship manufacturer who might have a few garrisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Lol actually I just don't remember. The more plausible explanation... And I don't remember saying anything about you building more fleets from magic appearing crystals. Nor do I see how the Mass Shadow Generator could be anything other than a boon to your faction and possibly alter the outcome of the last Kaggath. Perhaps we need some air. EDIT: Of course the whole thing is rigged because I totally hate you or something. EDIT: Okey looking back I said no to the MSG because its a super weapon. Funnily enough its you who asked for it. I'm pretty sure I asked ABOUT it. Besides, Like I said, this argument is pointless, only people who knew about it were Traya, Bao Dur, and the Exile. 2 of which knew how to activate it. (I say Traya, because she invaded Bao-Dur's mind.) As for your Edit, I already said I used them as examples, I never meant to say you're conspiring against me. And dude, we get magically appearing stuff all the time. Tune Gets magically appearing Engines and Hyperdrives (Far too complex to be built at a ship yard) I get magically appearing Stealth Crystals, we all get magically appearing food, and somehow none of our Combatants know how each other died... These things are done to make the Kaggath more fair and fun. Besides, Like I said, Surely Traya and the Assassins would have suppliers as they needed it for belts. Edit: OMG. Derp moment from me, JESUS >.> Santhe/Sienar have the suppliers, as they used Stealth Technology all the time. THAT was how we solved it in the last Kaggath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Side note: totally working on my kick-butt faction for the next Kaggath tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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