Eillack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I didn't create this thread to point out any stereotype, nor did I do it to point out this single person. It was an experience I thought was odd, or whatever and wanted to share it as an anecdote or what have you. If you take it that way, fine. But it's not what the reason for this thread. Well you should have used an example with someone actually behaving rude instead of just trying to have an honest solo-run and then getting pestered. But as it stands you are stereotyping players unless you change this thread's title and part of the OP. And before you continue, I always try to get groups going to just get stuff done faster, but I have never created threads to complain about people who didn't wish to join me and them say someone rude about them and others who might follow a certain play style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well you should have used an example with someone actually behaving rude instead of just trying to have an honest solo-run and then getting pestered. But as it stands you are stereotyping players unless you change this thread's title and part of the OP. And before you continue, I always try to get groups going to just get stuff done faster, but I have never created threads to complain about people who didn't wish to join me and them say someone rude about them and others who might follow a certain play style. The thread isn't at all about someone not wanting to group with me. I don't know if you understand the situation: I asked if someone wanted to join a group, once. They responded weirdly and /ignored me. I found it to be odd, came here to share the story, and that's that. The thread's title is just what I thought fit best, correct, and proper or not. I didn't come here to hate on people who aren't social (I'm not exactly social, myself). If you look into it any further you're really wasting your time. I don't feel the need to bother justifying my reasons for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorei Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well you should have used an example with someone actually behaving rude instead of just trying to have an honest solo-run and then getting pestered. But as it stands you are stereotyping players unless you change this thread's title and part of the OP. And before you continue, I always try to get groups going to just get stuff done faster, but I have never created threads to complain about people who didn't wish to join me and them say someone rude about them and others who might follow a certain play style. To be fair, the OP is complaining about immediately getting ignored by the person, not about people refusing to group up with him. Assuming the OP really only asked once and unless that person was having a bad day, it seems a bit extreme to /ignore someone for this question (not answering would have been a different story and more acceptable in my opinion, because this shows they want to be left alone without making it impossible for the person to ever contact them again). Especially if they wrote "why" (questions usually provoque answers) and not "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Some people just don't want to group.That is up to them.If they put you on ignore so what.You didn't break bread together right.It is a game have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) So I was doing some dailies and came across someone doing the same ones. I asked if they wanted to join me and they responded by saying WHY? I explained to them that it would be quicker to do it together, and tried to finish my message only to find out they /ignored me. Has anyone else run into this? At the first sign of someone wanting to team up they /ignore that person? Was just a weird experience and figured I'd share. Saying "no" is one thing, but /ignoring a person to avoid grouping up? Talk about an introvert. It's their choice to be left alone. Accept that. But then, trhere are also threads like this : "SWTOR is NOT an single player game !" Besides, when I've got my annual winter depressions I might ignore as well. It just happens. Edited January 23, 2014 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) To be fair, the OP is complaining about immediately getting ignored by the person, not about people refusing to group up with him. Assuming the OP really only asked once and unless that person was having a bad day, it seems a bit extreme to /ignore someone for this question (not answering would have been a different story and more acceptable in my opinion, because this shows they want to be left alone without making it impossible for the person to ever contact them again). Especially if they wrote "why" (questions usually provoque answers) and not "no". That's what the point of the thread is, the title isn't exactly fitting but I don't know what it should be. The point is that they seemed to ask "why" as in "why group with me" and when I attempted to explain it I was ignored. I'm really happy to change the thread's title if I get a suggestion. Edited January 23, 2014 by Pingonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 So I was doing some dailies and came across someone doing the same ones. I asked if they wanted to join me and they responded by saying WHY? I explained to them that it would be quicker to do it together, and tried to finish my message only to find out they /ignored me. Has anyone else run into this? At the first sign of someone wanting to team up they /ignore that person? Was just a weird experience and figured I'd share. Saying "no" is one thing, but /ignoring a person to avoid grouping up? Talk about an introvert. Never come across this, it's plain unnecessary, even when I'm finishing off for the day I don't need to ignore them, people accept that you are going somewhere in a few minutes or just don't want to do it. Ignore should be reserved for trolls, spammers, and idiots (the ones that don't realise you don't have to relay every idea that comes into your head, especially not the rude or abusive ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) The thread isn't at all about someone not wanting to group with me. I don't know if you understand the situation: I asked if someone wanted to join a group, once. They responded weirdly and /ignored me. I found it to be odd, came here to share the story, and that's that. The thread's title is just what I thought fit best, correct, and proper or not. I didn't come here to hate on people who aren't social (I'm not exactly social, myself). If you look into it any further you're really wasting your time. I don't feel the need to bother justifying my reasons for posting it. This isn't new to SWTOR or any MMO honestly, that player did nothing wrong and simply ended the conversation. But looking at "Super Anti-socialistic and rude players" says another story; poor phrasing on your part then. That's what the point of the thread is, the title isn't exactly fitting but I don't know what it should be. The point is that they seemed to ask "why" as in "why group with me" and when I attempted to explain it I was ignored. I'm really happy to change the thread's title if I get a suggestion. "A Peculiar Interaction With Another Player" perhaps? Edited January 23, 2014 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 This isn't new to SWTOR or any MMO honestly, that player did nothing wrong and simply ended the conversation. But looking at "Super Anti-socialistic and rude players" says another story; poor phrasing on your part then. I changed the name of the thread, because as you said it wasn't fitting at all. I do suggest you re-read the OP, though. Because it seems like you think this is about them not wanting to group. It's about the way they responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Except I wasn't trying to force anything. I said two sentences and sent a group request before he /ignored me. What I'm seeing here is that you sent a group request to someone who didn't want to group. That would land you on my /ignore list as well. Maybe wait until they say "yes" before sending that invite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illgot Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Aspergers, not just the quiet guy staring at the floor. Edited January 23, 2014 by illgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 But as it stands you are stereotyping players unless you change this thread's title and part of the OP. It's technically impossible not to stereotype people, everything is a stereotype to someone, and if it isn't it soon becomes one. (Trust me on this, you simply can't avoid Stereotypes). That said, the OP wasn't really stereotyping anyone, the person in the OP was Rude and was being Antisocial, I see as I type the OP's changed the title, but his original title was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) What I'm seeing here is that you sent a group request to someone who didn't want to group. That would land you on my /ignore list as well. Maybe wait until they say "yes" before sending that invite? You'd ignore someone for sending you an invite? That's a bit unnecessary, don't you think? My problem isn't that they didn't want a group, it's that they asked why, and then ignored me. I couldn't exactly explain why, then. I see as I type the OP's changed the title, but his original title was fine. It was a bit misleading, though. Edited January 23, 2014 by Pingonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's technically impossible not to stereotype people, everything is a stereotype to someone, and if it isn't it soon becomes one. (Trust me on this, you simply can't avoid Stereotypes). That said, the OP wasn't really stereotyping anyone, the person in the OP was Rude and was being Antisocial, I see as I type the OP's changed the title, but his original title was fine. Not wanting to group with someone is not the same as being anti-social. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 You'd ignore someone for sending you an invite? That's a bit unnecessary, don't you think? My problem isn't that they didn't want a group, it's that they asked why, and then ignored me. I couldn't exactly explain why, then. Yes, I ignore people who send unwanted invites because it is rude and I don't want to interact with people who can't show the most basic courtesy. Yes, it's a bit odd for them to respond the way they did. But hardly forum-thread-posting-worthy. The question is: Why can't you just let it go and get on with your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I changed the name of the thread, because as you said it wasn't fitting at all. I do suggest you re-read the OP, though. Because it seems like you think this is about them not wanting to group. It's about the way they responded. I re-read it, and I'm just being honest - this isn't a strange response to me. I've only been doing MMOs for around 10 years so I'm no "Vet," but this was actually a very polite and swift "No" in that player's own way compared to stories and personal interactions I have encountered. Again, speculation, but what if this person has been asked / blind invite by players constantly and their were just sick of it? Or maybe they didn't want to fight over loot seeing that everyone rolls 'Need' now a days. I know I have gotten "Can you please help me with XYZ?" randomly while I'm doing quests in TOR, and I have had to turn them down because I wasn't just standing around; and then I would get more tells and invites from said person and I'd inform them that the way they are trying to get help will get them nowhere and drive people away, and then I put them on ignore. I know I have had times that I've gotten sick from random tells asking to group with things I had no plans on doing / took me away from doing whatever I was on and enjoyed, so I somewhat understand what could have been going on in that player's mind. Except I wasn't trying to force anything. I said two sentences and sent a group request before he /ignored me. I didn't see this post at first. This explains it more - you sent the tells and an invite when the person didn't want to join. Pity I didn't see this earlier, makes that person's actions justified now and this thread moot. Edited January 23, 2014 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 -snip- Well I thought it was weird that they would ask why, (not saying "no") and then ignore. Were they attempting to say "no" and I misunderstood? Maybe, but they certainly said "WHY". It was odd to me, and depending on your experiences it may or may not be thread worthy, but I've never experienced it before. This is my first "real" MMORPG, mind you, even though I've played since launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbgjfdhjgkjdhsg Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I personally don't like grouping because yesterday I was doing the Rakgouhl event and I grouped with a level 41 when I was a 29 and it made the enemies adapt to his level so I couldn't do anything so I quit. But then he kept inviting me back no matter how many times I declined until I just stood there and he eventually went away (thank God). In those kinds of instances I could see why you would put them on the ignore list. But when you politely ask them to group like the OP did and they ignore you or cus you out, that seems a little irrational instead of just typing in the two letter word called "no" in the chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Well I thought it was weird that they would ask why, (not saying "no") and then ignore. Were they attempting to say "no" and I misunderstood? Maybe, but they certainly said "WHY". It was odd to me, and depending on your experiences it may or may not be thread worthy, but I've never experienced it before. This is my first "real" MMORPG, mind you, even though I've played since launch. Why = No When I read that in the OP that was the first thing that automatically came to my mind because it is very common. And asking them and sending the invite is a very annoying thing for some people and they were justified to ignore you at that point because you were "poking the bear." Edited January 23, 2014 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Why = No When I read that in the OP that was the first thing that automatically came to my mind because it is very common. And asking them and sending the invite is a very annoying thing for some people and they were justified to ignore you at that point because you were "poking the bear." Well, that makes sense if why is no. But why is "why" "no"? I've never run into it and that's why it struck me as a really weird thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well I thought it was weird that they would ask why, (not saying "no") and then ignore. Were they attempting to say "no" and I misunderstood? Maybe, but they certainly said "WHY". It was odd to me, and depending on your experiences it may or may not be thread worthy, but I've never experienced it before. This is my first "real" MMORPG, mind you, even though I've played since launch. Myself I say no to most groups.I just prefer solo.There are certain things I try to get done.I never have enough time it seems.I help out at times but that "it will only be 15 minutes" turns into a hour.The person should of said no and let it go.Still like I said before being put on ignore isn't a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Well, that makes sense if why is no. But why is "why" "no"? I've never run into it and that's why it struck me as a really weird thing to say. "Why should I join you" or some variation of that phrase is what it means. Just like in real life when someone says something like 'Hey guys, lets do X!" and someone says "Why?" Again, this is common in MMOs in general in some shape or form. When someone doesn't want to join you after 2 tells and an invite, give up and stop - you are then being very annoying and rude. I'm honestly happy you just got an ignore, usually you had gotten a long wall of text summing up on how you should **** or something; which then the original title would have fit perfectly. Edited January 23, 2014 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horrorfaneightys Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 At least you whispered them before you invited them - I was once blind-invited 12 times by the same player. But it was a blessing in disguise lol - I googled how to decline these invites and now have it to set to auto-decline invites. It also helped me figure out how to chat in game, as I wasn't sure about how to whisper etc either. I still get the odd blind-invite, but tend to have gen chat turned off so miss them now. I wouldn't automatically ignore anyone though - as another poster said, perhaps they were just having a bad day and wanted to be left alone. The only thing I might change is wait for their reply before inviting them. I've had someone invite me after I've said no to their whisper. That is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 "Why should I join you" or some variation of that phrase is what it means. Again, this is common in MMOs in general in some shape or form. When someone doesn't want to join you after 2 tells and an invite, give up and stop - you are then being very annoying and rude. I'm honestly happy you just got an ignore, usually you had gotten a long wall of text summing up on how you should **** or something; which then the original title would have fit perfectly. Well, I've never run into that. I'll keep it in mind, but I would have stopped after 2 tells anyway. I didn't get a chance to send a 3rd if I'd wanted to, really. Either way, I appreciate the input from everyone on this thread. Sure, not as interesting as I first thought, but I learned some stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artharin Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I don't understand this either. I've sent blind invites before, but only when we're obviously in the same area trying to kill 30 of the same enemies and they're just not spawning fast enough. Sometimes it's accepted and sometimes it's not. Grouping with someone for something so small is not really that big of a deal. You really don't even have to talk to the other person, just kill the enemies...drop group and move on. You've saved yourself 10/15 minutes and the quest is done. PS I'm very introverted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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