Capconian Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Have you ever played your toon and even though he's high level you wish you could change the advance class? example: I have a lvl 50 vanguard, lately I have been playing a commando since I've tried out all the tanking classes (I'll stick to my guardian main for now) and even though vanguard tanking was fun, I just with I could make him a Commando without all that leveling of an alt. My recommendation is to make the system, only once a year or very limited times or a high legacy + cartel market item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerex_Kildron Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Well the fact that this would be a High Legacy Item, and once a year would make the opportunity more realistic. But on the other hand, it just doesn't fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capconian Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Completing the class line could be an additional pre requisit. And, not fiting went out the window when Treek (ewok companion) was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illgot Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I do not see why people are so against this. The story is the same, the companions are the same, the main stats are the same, weapons are the same. Minor differences in armor type from Medium to Heavy for 1 class on each faction. If BW had planned it out better and had more time, an AC switch could have been in the game since beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I do not see why people are so against this. The story is the same, the companions are the same, the main stats are the same, weapons are the same. Minor differences in armor type from Medium to Heavy for 1 class on each faction. If BW had planned it out better and had more time, an AC switch could have been in the game since beta. People are against it because as a permanent choice, it gives your class more meaning. Allowing AC respec diminishes the choice you made. Also, no the weapons are not the same. Only Knights/Warriors use the same weapon, the Mainhand Lightsaber. Everyone else uses two different types of weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaseSpace Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Moonshadow is correct. Your AC is your permanent class choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admirison Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm not sure I'd ever use it, personally, but I'd like to see the ability to respec AC at a sufficiently high level, probably as a Legacy unlock or Cartel Coin purchase, introduced to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyltr Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 ...weapons are the same. Huh, I wasn't aware sorcs could use double-bladed lightsabers, or that operatives could use sniper rifles or that vanguards could use cannons, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xikks Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I want this too. I don't see why someone would care if someone else did this. How would a person changing from Sniper to Operative affect anyone but the player? Make it a quest line to do so, with the end reward being a new weapon or piece of armor relative to the new AC. The quest is only available after the player completes Chatper 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratajack Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) I want this too. I don't see why someone would care if someone else did this. How would a person changing from Sniper to Operative affect anyone but the player? Make it a quest line to do so, with the end reward being a new weapon or piece of armor relative to the new AC. The quest is only available after the player completes Chatper 3. How would changing from a DK to a warrior in WoW affect anyone but the player? How would changing from hunter to shaman in WoW affect anyone but the player? How would changing from a warlock to a mage or a priest in WoW affect anyone but the player? People care because one of the big unwritten rules in MMO's is that you cannot change your class. Changing your AC is changing your class in the eyes of the devs and in the eyes of many players. If you have a sniper and want to play an operative, you can already do so. You simply have to level the operative. Edited January 8, 2014 by Ratajack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xikks Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 People care because one of the big unwritten rules in MMO's is that you cannot change your class. Changing your AC is changing your class in the eyes of the devs and in the eyes of many players. If you have a sniper and want to play an operative, you can already do so. You simply have to level the operative. Everquest 2 has had the ability to change your class for a very long time. It involves a quest. It too has a Class->Advanced Class mechanic. Shaman can be a Mystic or Defiler, and you can be a Defiler and then switch to Mystic. You can even switch factions. I understand why faction switch in this game isn't possible. Your "unwritten rule" is lame IMO and not a good reason. Since when did you speak for the devs as well? Good game design and game management comes from saying "yes" more than "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSupaCoopa Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 No. You can get more character slots for a reason. The AC is a permanent choice. What I would like is permanent double EXP for Legacy Level 50 players to make leveling a bit easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xikks Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Look the game only has so much replay factor. Doing the exact same story line over again is not something I wish to do. AC being set in stone isn't a good idea either. You really don't have an idea of how the class will play at level 10. By the time you do get an idea it means you have to start over if it isn't something that appeals to you. I don't want to do Hutta and Dromund Kaas ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratajack Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Look the game only has so much replay factor. Doing the exact same story line over again is not something I wish to do. AC being set in stone isn't a good idea either. You really don't have an idea of how the class will play at level 10. By the time you do get an idea it means you have to start over if it isn't something that appeals to you. I don't want to do Hutta and Dromund Kaas ever again. Do you have an idea how a paladin in WoW will play AT CREATION? Unless you have played one before, it is doubtful that you would. Can you change your paladin to a warrior if you decide that you do not like that class? NO. You have to reroll, even though that means doing all the starter area quests again, and many of the same quests as you level. Why should you expect to be able to change your class in this game? You mention Everquest 2 as a game allowing changing "classes". I've never played that game, so I will take your word for it, but how many other MMO's allow class changes? None of the MMO's that I have ever played have allowed class changes. There may be exceptions, but those are EXCEPTIONS and not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul_of_Flames Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 No AC change. Ever. Roll a new toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 No AC change. Ever. Roll a new toon. ^^This is my opinion^^ I know some people want it, but just as many never want to see it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliandra Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'd really like an AC respec option. I have three toons that have had a lot of effort in getting other things for that just don't have any appeal in their current class any more. (Specifically my Sentinel and Marauder) I don't have anymore character slots on my preferred server anymore. I'm more then fine with an extreme recharge time/expense cost, or even just getting more character slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustychild Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 There is no real reason not to already have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZahirS Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 There is no real reason not to already have it. This x1000 This is most resonable petition for this game devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratajack Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 There is no real reason not to already have it. This x1000 This is most resonable petition for this game devs. There are plenty of reasons not to cater to the "have to have it now and for as little effort as possible" crowd by adding class changes. First, and foremost, you were advised at least 4 times, by at least 2 separate NPC's that your choice was PERMANENT. You even had to click on the confirm button in the confirmation box acknowledging that you KNEW it was permanent and that it was the class you wanted to play. You made a permanent choice, knowing that it was permanent. As for the rest of the reasons, go read any of the countless threads regarding this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjonxb Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 This x1000 This is most resonable petition for this game devs. Reasonable goes out the window when you decide to revive 3 old threads about the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHboy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Reasonable goes out the window when you decide to revive 3 old threads about the same thing... he managed to hit the suggestion box, cartel suggestion, AND general with necros. Logic and a 2x4 upside the head...only one seems to ever work on some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtJeremy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'd like it but it gives a great excuse to replay a character differently. On top of some companions, Jaesa Sith Warriors know what I am talking about, being limited to one side or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjonxb Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 he managed to hit the suggestion box, cartel suggestion, AND general with necros. Logic and a 2x4 upside the head...only one seems to ever work on some people. Lets not forget the new thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=736296 Necro's: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=162497 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=359256 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=658980 Seriously I get wanting a feature... But I guarantee this is against a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZahirS Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Lets not forget the new thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=736296 Necro's: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=162497 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=359256 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=658980 Seriously I get wanting a feature... But I guarantee this is against a rule. Point taken, just want devs to know this is an active, today I made a thread on this too. Im a law abiding citizen Edited April 18, 2014 by ZahirS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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