ScarletBlaze Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 As has been stated most people use their guild to talk to. I know I rarely use general to just talk. I feel more comfortable talking to my friends in my guild than I will in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptorClown Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 MMOs used to be about social play back in 2000 and before when all this just started to crawl. Now there are too many people including social psychopats:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesmindassassin Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Want to know why? Because of the first game you listed. And yet that game still has chat bubbles, and this game, does not. WoW was, is and always will be better than SWTOR. Their reason for this game not having chat bubbles is because it would lag. The HeroEngine can't handle chat bubbles. Let me rephrase that. BioWare's implementation and version of the HeroEngine can't handle chat bubbles. HeroEngine shouldn't get a bad name because the worst MMO and gaming company of all time have horrible programmers and coders. When this game inevitably shuts down after EA has wrung every cent they can muster from it's playerbase, the fan boy, white knight and biodrone tears will blot out the sun. Then, and only then, do all you diehards have my permission to QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonetruebleed Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 WoW was, is and always will be better than SWTOR. diehards You know what they say about staring into the abyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) WoW was, is and always will be better than SWTOR. If I thought game A was better than game B, I sure wouldn't waste my time and money paying to play game B. Edited December 23, 2013 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaron Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 If I thought game A was better than game B, I sure wouldn't waste my time and money paying to play game B. I dunno dude, I think Jurgens has started a trend. It's now cool to pay for the games you hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savej Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Anti-social : person is a jerk but possibly/probably very "social" A-social : person mostly shuns human contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Anyways my point is, you're playing an MMO, be social, be active, don't be a hermit. Grow some chest hair? On line game, just like real life, will make you interact with all sort of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneirophrenia Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) It always amazes me how many people can be anti-social in an MMORPG, when the very nature of the game is to be immersed in an online experience with other people. I don't know if this is every server, but it blows my mind when you can be on a planet that has 60-90 players currently there, yet chat is absolutely vacant for hours on end. FYI, people not socializing with perfect strangers has nothing to do with anti-social behaviors. As an example, I hardly pay any attention to general chat on fleet or planets most of the time, except for the occasional grouping or ops opportunities. Let's face it, most conversations that occur there are just inane comments and arguments which I view as utterly pointless and foolish to the core so why would I participate? Secondly, keep in mind that there are many people in this world who have to deal with people in their day jobs. I meet with clients every single day at work and by the time I get home, I am for the most part "talked out". Now don't get me wrong, that does not mean I am going to actively avoid chit-chat when I log on. I simply prefer to do it with people I already know such my guildmates and other in-game friends via the use of guildchat, TS3 or vent. That type of socializing is something a random stranger on fleet or whatever planet can not see. Edited December 23, 2013 by Oneirophrenia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecher Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Look at a lot of the chat, most of it is horrid. Why would I to participate in it? When I see someone asking for help, when I don't have chat closed that is, I do open it from every once and a while just in case people are asking for help and an intelligent conversation is going on, I do help them. Most of the time it is is closed how ever. In ops, PvP, Flashpoints, I obviously keep it open. I miss the days when I didn't have to do this in MMOs. Always happens when MMOs go F2P. Edited December 23, 2013 by mecher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reclipsed Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I'm sorry for not typing my thoughts about the weather or what happened in Kwaliqualstan while trying to kill Imperial Trooper #7 or trying to rush through the same storyline for the 3rd or 10th time. If I wanted to chat I'd go to fleet where most go to wait for queues or troll. Anyways, I see chats going on all the time on different planets. 90% of them are forgettable. I have irl friends if I wanna go gossip girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) I think there is an easy fix for all the problems. In a guild with an A team there is always a group of people that feel excluded. That group can organize together to create their own raids or socialize in any other form. For some reason everyone is looking for someone else to do it. What this community needs are strong leaders. No amount of complaining and discussion can fix that. I believe casual players are not interested in learning the hard way and want to spend time with seasoned players to learn, while at the same time veterans rarely want to spend time with casuals as they see it as a waste of their time. Edited December 24, 2013 by ELRunninW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It always amazes me how many people can be anti-social in an MMORPG, when the very nature of the game is to be immersed in an online experience with other people. I don't know if this is every server, but it blows my mind when you can be on a planet that has 60-90 players currently there, yet chat is absolutely vacant for hours on end. Back when I played WoW, I was on a high pop PvP server, and chat was always going, no matter which zone you were in. You could be in Icecrown with 10 people and everyone is chatting, yet it's definitely not like this in TOR. It bugs me a little, as part of the reason I play MMO's is for the social aspect of it, and when a game doesn't have that, I get discouraged. Anyways my point is, you're playing an MMO, be social, be active, don't be a hermit. As theonetruebleed mentions a few posts below yours, it doesn't matter if it's an MMO or not. I don't play MMOs because they are MMOs, I play them because I enjoy the actual game. I am grateful that current gen MMOs (starting with the original GW) were made to be more single-player friendly. It gives me the choice on how social I want to be at any particular time. Personally speaking, I will actually attempt to give a non-troll answer to questions (if I know the answer - otherwise I remain silent). I don't feel I should be punished for wanting to play a really good game just because it's an MMO and I am forced into being more "social" than I have a desire to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingonaut Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Immaturity and the vocal minority of annoying players in chat cause this to happen. Because of this, anyone wanting to be social joins a guild, where they can avoid trolls (in a good guild, at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beslley Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 It always amazes me how many people can be anti-social in an MMORPG, when the very nature of the game is to be immersed in an online experience with other people. I don't know if this is every server, but it blows my mind when you can be on a planet that has 60-90 players currently there, yet chat is absolutely vacant for hours on end. Back when I played WoW, I was on a high pop PvP server, and chat was always going, no matter which zone you were in. You could be in Icecrown with 10 people and everyone is chatting, yet it's definitely not like this in TOR. It bugs me a little, as part of the reason I play MMO's is for the social aspect of it, and when a game doesn't have that, I get discouraged. Anyways my point is, you're playing an MMO, be social, be active, don't be a hermit. Hi OP, I am actually super shy and I prefer to socialize with the people I know in guild, or my friends I've gained from playing over the years. If I don't talk in chat, it's because I'm nervous, not because I'm anti-social. I honestly feel a little bit insulted. Trust me, I'd love to be a social butterfly. It would make my life a whole lot easier, but there's too much anxiety there for me TL;DR OP needs to drop his assumptions and stop being a babby about nobody talking in chat. If you want a conversation, maybe you should try to be friendly and start one instead of sitting there waiting for banter to happen, otherwise you're a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndursinger Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 What you are also overlooking is that a number of players in TOR never even wanted to play an MMO. They wanted to play KOTOR 3 and this took over that. So many people never wanted anything but a single player game in the first place. Yep, this me in a nutshell. Its not that I'm anti-social, its mostly because I'm busy playing . I don't do flashpoints or anything that involves teaming up with other people because I never know whether I'm going to play for the next 5 hours or the next 5 seconds if life "happens". I have never even considered joining a guild and doubt I ever will. I have several level 55's and I'll keep getting more and I'll be content doing it all by myself at a rate that I can comfortably do without interfering with actual life. The other reason is that.............. I............type.............really.............really...............slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slafko Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I miss the days when I didn't have to do this in MMOs. Always happens when MMOs go F2P. I'll just put a LOL here because I don't want to get banned. I'll throw in a rolleyes emoticon too since we dont have one that's puking its guts out. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 And yet that game still has chat bubbles, and this game, does not. WoW was, is and always will be better than SWTOR. Their reason for this game not having chat bubbles is because it would lag. The HeroEngine can't handle chat bubbles. Let me rephrase that. BioWare's implementation and version of the HeroEngine can't handle chat bubbles. HeroEngine shouldn't get a bad name because the worst MMO and gaming company of all time have horrible programmers and coders. When this game inevitably shuts down after EA has wrung every cent they can muster from it's playerbase, the fan boy, white knight and biodrone tears will blot out the sun. Then, and only then, do all you diehards have my permission to QQ. so many subjective opinions in this post, so many inflammatory insults... defensive much? I'm going to address just one of your statements OP is talking about general chat. you know that chat that encompases entire planet? the one that's not proximity based, like chat bubbles are? chat bubbles and general chat are two very VERY different things. (and btw, I've always ALWAYS had those disabled, and it didn't stop me from occasional random socializing, back before chat got taken over politics, religion and/or insults and pointless callouts inside major cities - silence with occasional lfg/lfm outside of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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