Gomla Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Troll much?? It's because of people like this that "troll" lost all meaning. Just throw it around at every post they don't agree with. This is not a troll thread, it's not even close. It doesn't remotely resemble a troll thread. Go look up what trolling is and then we'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roysten Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 There is a difference between a petition and an election. Petitions are signed and put forward for consideration. Elections are voted upon. A vote for the petition serves no purpose here, it should instead be a signatory of the petition. A vote against serves no purpose, all that need be done is not to sign. Your disagreement has as much weight as someone else's indifference or indeed ignorance of the petition. If a person wishes their disagreement to count for more than the indifferent or the ignorant then they should take the time to put forward a counter proposal and try to garner support for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) I don't agree much, because it (the Petition) is mainly about PvP. As soon as I saw the words "PvP2 standing at the top of the list, and PvE at the bottom, I knew that it was rather about PvP than about PvE. That's why I don't agree much with it. And yes, I'm actually that much detail-oriented. As an author, it's the details that count to me. Edited September 23, 2013 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elstaar Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) sure, the game needs changes but PVP is not the biggest problem. they should focus on bugfixing and client performance first, then on consolidating the community by implementing crosserver, including warzones. solo endgame really needs some love, too. it is basically non-existent, except for some CZ dailys. and you know, it takes a LOT of time to wait for GF-available content as a DPS. Edited September 23, 2013 by elstaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 What exactly is the point of this thread? If you disagree with a post, post *in the thread you disagree with*. Attention - that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSun Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Attention - that's all **** stirring, more like Driz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 **** stirring, more like Driz Yeah lol, that is what it is actually. Trouble making trolling post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Pointless voting again, polls that prove absolutely nothing? Why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Attention - that's all I vote on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Pointless voting again, polls that prove absolutely nothing? Why bother? It proves some people know how to reset their IP address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roalmo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It proves some people know how to reset their IP address Has to be that.. because if it isn't, well then the "Redemption" PVPers are wrong from the OP in that thread to the few(very few) supporters. So it HAS to by multiple votes by those dastardly PVE'ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Has to be that.. because if it isn't, well then the "Redemption" PVPers are wrong from the OP in that thread to the few(very few) supporters. So it HAS to by multiple votes by those dastardly PVE'ers. I didn't accuse PvEers of anything, nor did I call anyone names, but I appreciate your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 What is this, a petition about a petition? Both this thread and its subject are nothing but troll- and/or flame-bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Grand_Nagus Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) It proves some people know how to reset their IP address That is certainly possible. In fact, I would say it is equally as likely as people signing fake names with junk email addresses to a petition. I'm not saying anyone actually did that, only that it is just as likely as what you suggested Edited September 24, 2013 by The_Grand_Nagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallayna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dear Lord please don't "fix" PvP in the main game! Every time some game decides that they're going to "Fix" PvP across the board then the entire rest of the game gets borked into unplayability. Either separate it out completely once and for all or leave it as is because PvP and PvE are just two completely different types of games and need two completely different sets of rules in order to maintain their own version of "balance." I mean, no offense to anyone, PvP's great and all but it just does not blend with PvE at all and if I wanted an MMO geared primarily for PvP, I'd be playing something else. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Coffee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That is certainly possible. In fact, I would say it is equally as likely as people signing fake names with junk email addresses to a petition. I'm not saying anyone actually did that, only that it is just as likely as what you suggested Well, in that case I believe you could always check the forum names/in-game names. So it isn't that likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Grand_Nagus Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well, in that case I believe you could always check the forum names/in-game names. So it isn't that likely. How would someone go about doing all that checking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoE_Khorne Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I didnt bother reading this post of any of the responses. All I came here to say is that I support the petition...... and Ive skewed your results. I was bored at work today so i voted 'No' at least 40 times. Lol at polls. Change IP, clear cookies, gogo votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Coffee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 How would someone go about doing all that checking? Messaging the people's forum names/ingame names. What are there? 6 servers? Shouldn't take too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Grand_Nagus Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Messaging the people's forum names/ingame names. What are there? 6 servers? Shouldn't take too long. Are you saying that you have actually verified all of the names on the petition? Edited September 24, 2013 by The_Grand_Nagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Coffee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Are you saying that you have done this to all of the names on the petition, or just speaking hypothetically? Hypothetically, although it is possible to quickly validate the list(BioWare could EASILY do it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Grand_Nagus Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Hypothetically, although it is possible to quickly validate the list(BioWare could EASILY do it). I see. So you do not actually know whether all of the names on the petition are valid or not. Thanks for clarifying Edited September 24, 2013 by The_Grand_Nagus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectreclees Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Actually, I think I'm probably against it in its entirety! For one thing, I find it too aggressive overall. I'm the last person to lecture people on not losing their cool on the forums, but I think something like this should be done calmly. BW can't/won't respond to threats. And secondly, it would have been nice for the creators to consult the community first and ask us what issues matter most to everyone. They didn't, which makes it rather a niche view IMHO. So, let me see... - Ranked warzones. I don't care. I'm not saying they aren't important to others, but my personal opinion is totally indifferent. - PVP rewards - don't care, as above. I do play PVP, but I'm just as happy with the new changes as the current system. - Rejoin Warzone after disconnect. I disagree. It's frustrating as hell, yes, but WZs move fast. If you're out, I'd rather get someone else in ASAP to replace you before we lose all our objectives. The comparison to PVE isn't valid - if someone disconnects from an Op, we wait for them. You can't pause a WZ. - Refer a friend. Oh alright, I do actually agree that this needs to be sorted - Sub benefits. I disagree, paying money for Collections or appearance designer doesn't bother me. - Class balance/bugs. I don't have any problems with this. Obviously I'd like all bugs to be fixed, but they're working on them. - PTS. Don't care. - Lag. I don't like it, but I feel like it's one of those things you have to put up with. And I'm an APAC player! - Forum moderation. Totally and utterly disagree. Who are these people the OP is saying are the mods favourites?? I have never had a warning, infraction or ban and it's not because I never criticise BW. I do, all the time, but I guess I am able to do it within the forum rules. Suggesting that BW have favourites is ridiculous. Why the hell would they care? They look at reported posts and see if they break the rules. They don't have favourites and they don't ban people just for criticising the game. - Endgame. Totally disagree. Don't say you speak for the whole community. You don't. So yeah, I guess I only disagree with 99%? As I said, these are my personal opinions. I am NOT saying "I don't care about PVP so it doesn't need to be fixed". I am just saying this petition doesn't represent my feelings on the game. There are other issues I care about much more which I would prefer were addressed first. Seems like you just don't care about a lot of things in the game. Not that you disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Coffee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I see. So you do not currently know whether all of the names on the petition are valid or not. Thanks for clarifying Nope, and it's clear that you're 100% against this petition. This thread should be closed as the poll can be manipulated without any clear indication of what's real or not. You're also not reaching out to the PvP community(I am not going to do that for you). The fact is that I welcome anybody to sign the petition, and if some "Maniac" decides to create fake accounts, I'm sure BioWare could sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Grand_Nagus Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Nope, and it's clear that you're 100% against this petition. Not at all. I was originally against the way the petition was worded, but for the most part that has been addressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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