BlackSpin Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) I just got a new computer, and probably spent a little more than I should have. It's an i7 4900, dual GTX 780's SLI, 2 SSDs Raid 0 ('marked at 1100 mb/s.) I even installed SWTOR Unleashed and have ALL of the assets and DiskCacheArea running from my 32G of RAM...........and I still have to turn off bloom, set shaders to low, turn off Anti Aliasing because I still get LAG where FPS drops under 20 in the PvP, and the PvP area of the fleet. What else do I need to turn down to speed this up? Where the hell is the bottleneck? Edited August 13, 2013 by BlackSpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSCARAYone Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Could you give me a link to the i7 4900? Google is only yielding Laptop processors when I search it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) I run the game on max settings and I have no issues in 16man Ops or PvP. I occasionally lag on the fleet and the new CZ-198 area is laggy but thats it. BTW my computer is over two years old. EDIT: Just saw the guy above me's comment. I believe your problem is you are trying to play an MMO on a laptop. Edited August 13, 2013 by Icebergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashenti Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 My system is far from cutting edge, its about 4 years old and wasn;t anywhere near the best then. But I play on all max settings with very little to no lag. (I do get bad lag in the new daily zone when its packed howevere, and load speeds seem to be getting longer with every patch). i have heard that the game actually plays worse on better systems though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkjunior Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) I have a i7-3770k running 32MB RAM, and a GTX 660 Ti FTW+ 3GB and I have everything maxed out with no lag. Sure it's not your internet connection? I'm not running Unleashed and I don't even have it installed on my SSD, just a standard 1TB 7200RPM drive. Edited August 13, 2013 by rkjunior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSCARAYone Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I have a i7-3770k running 32MB RAM, and a GTX 660 Ti FTW+ 3GB and I have everything maxed out with no lag. Sure it's not your internet connection? I'm not running Unleashed and I don't even have it installed on my SSD, just a standard 1TB 7200RPM drive. 32MB of RAM? That's really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpin Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) I have a i7-3770k running 32MB RAM, and a GTX 660 Ti FTW+ and I have everything maxed out with no lag. Sure it's not your internet connection? I'm not running Unleashed and I don't even have it installed on my SSD, just a standard 1TB 7200RPM drive. Internet connection is running at about 3.5 mb/s (i think it's about 30mb down/ 4mbs up) and getting pretty solid ping times at about 18 - 25ms. Edited August 13, 2013 by BlackSpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjonxb Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I just got a new computer, and probably spent a little more than I should have. It's an i7 4900, dual GTX 780's SLI, 2 SSDs Raid 0 ('marked at 1100 mb/s.) I even installed SWTOR Unleashed and have ALL of the assets and DiskCacheArea running from my 32G of RAM...........and I still have to turn off bloom, set shaders to low, turn off Anti Aliasing because I still get LAG where FPS drops under 20 in the PvP, and the PvP area of the fleet. What else do I need to turn down to speed this up? Where the hell is the bottleneck? Couple things. Check drivers. YOu really shouldnt be having problems with the machine you have but there could be a bottleneck anyways. After that, turn on the FPS meter (ctrl-shift-f) and tell me what color it is. If I remember correctly red means it is a rendering problem. Green means it is a processing problem. And yellow is a mix of both. What other programs do you have running? Especially if this was a prebuilt machine, what crap did the manufacturer install that may be taking up resources Run a graphics benchmark (the DX11 from 3dmark is a good one) and see what you are getting If this is a prebuilt (and a laptop like the others think) that may very well be your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) nvidia cards never run well. There's your issue. Edited August 13, 2013 by AlienEyeTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shudon Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He said he has dual GTX 780's, what type of laptop are you guys imagining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkjunior Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ha, oops! I also run in Windowed mode with no issues. Is this a pre-built machine? Home built? I'd check and remove all the "bloatware" too. My motherboard installed all sorts of "accelerators" for USB, etc, that made my system much more stable once I got rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpin Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) It's an Alienware - I checked all drivers, and they are up-to-date. Which FPS meter do you use, is there one that's built into the game? The only thing I usually have running is Spotify & Mumble... I'll download 3dMark right now (nevermind, I have to buy it... going to find the Haven benchmark I used before.) Couple things. Check drivers. YOu really shouldnt be having problems with the machine you have but there could be a bottleneck anyways. After that, turn on the FPS meter (ctrl-shift-f) and tell me what color it is. If I remember correctly red means it is a rendering problem. Green means it is a processing problem. And yellow is a mix of both. What other programs do you have running? Especially if this was a prebuilt machine, what crap did the manufacturer install that may be taking up resources Run a graphics benchmark (the DX11 from 3dmark is a good one) and see what you are getting If this is a prebuilt (and a laptop like the others think) that may very well be your problem. Edited August 13, 2013 by BlackSpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjonxb Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He said he has dual GTX 780's, what type of laptop are you guys imagining? Under the alienware 18 http://www.alienware.com/Landings/laptops.aspx However being alienware that could be another problem (yay for Dell *********** up a good computer company) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's an Alienware - I checked all drivers, and they are up-to-date. Which FPS meter do you use, is there one that's built into the game? The only thing I usually have running is Spotify & Mumble... I'll download 3dMark right now. nvidia and Dell? So sorry for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjonxb Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) It's an Alienware - I checked all drivers, and they are up-to-date. Which FPS meter do you use, is there one that's built into the game? The only thing I usually have running is Spotify & Mumble... I'll download 3dMark right now (nevermind, I have to buy it... going to find the Haven benchmark I used before.) Unfortunately, Alienware is not what they used to be and you may not get what you want from that machine. However use, there is one built in. When in the game just hit (ctrl-shift-f) and it will be a little number on the bottom left corner. For future reference. Highly recommend http://www.originpc.com they were started by the alienware founder(s) and is what alienware was before Dell ruined them. Edited August 13, 2013 by ninjonxb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpin Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ok in game now... PvP area of the fleet. When I pan around in circles using the arrow key I get around 50fps when I'm facing away from the majority of the players and under 25 when they come into view and the color is mainly red when that happens. Good tip about Orginpc, but the trigger has already been pulled... maybe in a few years when I'm ready to spend another $4500, haha. Unfortunately, Alienware is not what they used to be and you may not get good performance out of that machine. However use, there is one built in. When in the game just hit (ctrl-shift-f) and it will be a little number on the bottom left corner. For future reference. Highly recommend http://www.originpc.com they were started by the alienware founder(s) and is what alienware was before Dell ruined them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsKNives Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 nvidia cards never run well. There's your issue. I've had absolutely zero issues with my GTX 580 on any game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narciuss Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 So all you guys that talk smack against Alienware have you ever owned one? I have a Alienware laptop and have no problems with it. Dell is the side that's going under. Don't automatically link that to Alienware because they own them. As to the OP I would check your drivers and the Nvidia Control panel, check to make sure SLI is enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narciuss Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Ok in game now... PvP area of the fleet. When I pan around in circles using the arrow key I get around 50fps when I'm facing away from the majority of the players and under 25 when they come into view and the color is mainly red when that happens. What you're describing here is bad optimization when multiple characters are being rendered. Edited August 13, 2013 by Narciuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilora Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ok in game now... PvP area of the fleet. When I pan around in circles using the arrow key I get around 50fps when I'm facing away from the majority of the players and under 25 when they come into view and the color is mainly red when that happens. Good tip about Orginpc, but the trigger has already been pulled... maybe in a few years when I'm ready to spend another $4500, haha. Really, I'd just recommend against using a laptop to game. Also -- as a heads up, you generally cripple yourself when running SLI/XFire. It isn't as good as you think, and is sometimes (like with SWTOR) worse than a single card. I have: i7-3770k @ 3.5GHz MSI TwinFrozr 7870 32GB G.Skill Z Series (DDR3 1600) I'm running @ highest settings, with 30+ FPS everywhere, generally above 60 FPS though. Sometimes the fleet stutters a bit, though. If the color is red, your GPU is the bottleneck. Try disabling SLI (if possible) and see how that affects you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilora Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 So all you guys that talk smack against Alienware have you ever owned one? I have a Alienware laptop and have no problems with it. Dell is the side that's going under. Don't automatically link that to Alienware because they own them. As to the OP I would check your drivers and the Nvidia Control panel, check to make sure SLI is enabled. Have you ever owned a REAL Alienware? The junk they are releasing now for the insane pricetags can't hold a candle to the original Alienware. Really, though, gaming laptops are rarely great choices. You pay more than you should for an underpowered machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaricSevGirl Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) This game is not optimized. I don't care what anyone says. You can have the best computer available and get lag. And I play on an Alienware and have no problems but I don't PvP. Admit it, this game engine is terrible. If you can't all see that, you've got blinders on. Edited August 13, 2013 by AlaricSevGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoofa Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 nvidia and Dell? So sorry for your loss. And there is the second time you've mention NVidia. NVidia drivers blow AMD out of the water. Then add in the basic specification of the NVidia cards. There is a reason why NVidia cards grace the very top of the performance charts. They may not win on the price/performance charts - but for sheer power and driver stability they far exceed anything AMD can bring to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpin Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Yup, SLI is on, running version 311.48. PhysX proccessor is set to Auto-Select. Is there a recommended way? Use CPU, or dedicate one of the video cards to do it? I think everyone took a warzone queue, there's about 6 people here and it's pretty solid at 55 - 60 fps now. This is frustrating. So all you guys that talk smack against Alienware have you ever owned one? I have a Alienware laptop and have no problems with it. Dell is the side that's going under. Don't automatically link that to Alienware because they own them. As to the OP I would check your drivers and the Nvidia Control panel, check to make sure SLI is enabled. Edited August 13, 2013 by BlackSpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narciuss Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Have you ever owned a REAL Alienware? The junk they are releasing now for the insane pricetags can't hold a candle to the original Alienware. Really, though, gaming laptops are rarely great choices. You pay more than you should for an underpowered machine. Define real Alienware laptop? Mine is the M18X R2, SLI 680m, 16gb Ram, i7 3920XM @ 3.33Ghz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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