SlimsPicken Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 learning to play would be of great benefit to you. And to those forced to play with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniehenlau Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) What is it? An assassin? Nope. It's an operative Nice. Pops out of stealth and stuns you like an assassin. Then he starts making some nice damage. Runs into cover. You try something, first ranged, then you try getting close, but nope. He's immune to all that. Nice. Then he makes some nice damage on you. With instants, while jumping around. and running. You finally manage to dps him a little bit. What's this? You're stunned again. From out of range! What?! He can heal himself back to 100% with one instant! Nice. You dps a little, but then you realise you're on 10% HP. Finally you stun him and dps a little. What's this?! He teleports away? You use your speed ability and run after him, but he's much faster than you. Where is he? Oh here he is, he just popped out of stealth and killed you. Nice. Oh look! He's still on 100% HP! Nice. Then, while you're at the respawn, you try to figure out whether this was even a dps specc, or rather a heal specc that just killed you. - NERF OPERATIVES/SCOUNDRELS. DO IT NOW! - P.S. To all who now say l2p: l2p yourself. 10/10 for sentimentality, it's been a long time since I saw someone genuinely asking for a nerf to concealment operatives! P.S: Nerf mercenaries, tracer spam is hax. Make it 10m in range. Edit: I also voted 5/5, we need to get BWs attention to this asap! We all know that when it comes to nerfing operatives, it rarely takes them long o/ Edited June 14, 2013 by ronniehenlau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorojus Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 What is it? An assassin? Nope. It's an operative Nice. Pops out of stealth and stuns you like an assassin. Then he starts making some nice damage. Runs into cover. You try something, first ranged, then you try getting close, but nope. He's immune to all that. Nice. Then he makes some nice damage on you. With instants, while jumping around. and running. You finally manage to dps him a little bit. What's this? You're stunned again. From out of range! What?! He can heal himself back to 100% with one instant! Nice. You dps a little, but then you realise you're on 10% HP. Finally you stun him and dps a little. What's this?! He teleports away? You use your speed ability and run after him, but he's much faster than you. Where is he? Oh here he is, he just popped out of stealth and killed you. Nice. Oh look! He's still on 100% HP! Nice. Then, while you're at the respawn, you try to figure out whether this was even a dps specc, or rather a heal specc that just killed you. - NERF OPERATIVES/SCOUNDRELS. DO IT NOW! - P.S. To all who now say l2p: l2p yourself. Great post ! Just not sure if its sarcasm or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racter Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Please be a sage on POT5. Please be that sage that I roflstomped 7 times in one huttball on my wh geared freshly dinged op. If you are, he is not kidding about 100% health. I think he caught me with one single overload out of all those kills lol Not even sure if keyboard turning he pretty much just stood there and got lit up. Easily top 5 easiest kills ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savej Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Operatives: invisible scamper wheels of death. There's no way to fix them, just ban the no-skill players that pick them because they're obviously interested in nothing but I-win griefing buttons and don't belong on the internet (much less games involving children). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindarstorm Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Please be a sage on POT5. Please be that sage that I roflstomped 7 times in one huttball on my wh geared freshly dinged op. If you are, he is not kidding about 100% health. I think he caught me with one single overload out of all those kills lol Not even sure if keyboard turning he pretty much just stood there and got lit up. Easily top 5 easiest kills ever. He may not be that particular sage, but he is clearly one of those players. Quite a few players (the majority, really) are easy kills on any class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
player-klaus Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I guarantee that a mediocre sorc, or sniper, or PT, or whatever, would kill the opening poster just as easily as that very good operative did. /thread fixed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraaxusKun Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 sounds like you're a tunnel vision noob that a good player ran rings around 1/10 bad call for nerf attempt, operative doesn't have enough energy to heal after doing a rotation and rolling lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladnar Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 when its all 8 ops then yes but im still seeing a nice range of classes and think its about as balanced as its ever going to get....answer to your problem, 2 of you will wipe him out in just a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Operatives: invisible scamper wheels of death. Sounds like a great signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyxus Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I just hate stuns..... Was playing ancient hypergate, and was the only one defending the pylon some stealth class stuns me and starts capturing the pylon, I used Tenacity to get out of the stun then i was stunned again???? ***??? then they just captured it, put stealth back on and ****ed off! That is ridiculous imo ok you could have 2 defending the pylon... but what then? what if there's 2 stun happy classes taking the pylon? your still screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajuntalee Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What is it? An assassin? Nope. It's an operative Nice. Pops out of stealth and stuns you like an assassin. Then he starts making some nice damage. so you were to lazy to burn (one of) your stunbreaker(s), or maybee you were too lazy to bind it at all. Runs into cover. yes cause he has the second half of your life to burn down and all his damaging abilities are on cooldown, you'd do the same i guess. You try something, first ranged, then you try getting close, but nope. He's immune to all that. so you are being kited by a melee class that does not move, nice concept, says a lot about your proficiency as a player.... he 's immune to you getting close, like what can he somehow root you from 35 meters away ? judging from the opener you are most probably full resolution, so I guess you forgot to put points into some snare removal abilities, cause if he was in cover then he was most definitely not moving, how the hell can't you close in on someone who is not moving when noone can stop you from moving ? Nice. Then he makes some nice damage on you. at 35 meters, that's got to be a measly probe and a normal carbine shot. With instants, while jumping around. and running. So he is not in cover anymore, then you can use all your gap closers, and you can maybee i don't know snare/root so he runs less fast he is not going to finish you ooff with his carbine, and he already used his probe so even a tank can self outheel his long range dps output ... You finally manage to dps him a little bit. What's this? You're stunned again. so you are teling us the duel lasted more than 30 seconds already, you are lucky he was not playing an assasin duel would have finished 20 seconds ago. it is your lucky day. From out of range! What?! Operatives have only one stun and it is 4m, odd are you ve eaten a grenade. He can heal himself back to 100% with one instant! DPS operatives can't template to have a instant heal, it is very high in the healing tree, and it would basically make them heal spec, their dps would be....crap to say the least. so you've got to chose cause you are describing a 21-36 template here and that cannot exist. my guess is he popped a pvp combat stim, shame on you for jumping in a WZ without a stack of 99, like every serious pvper does. Nice. You dps a little, but then you realise you're on 10% HP. Finally you stun him and dps a little. So you wait that the fight is lost to use your stun, nice tactics, you should teach them, it is really avant-garde, look like it works wonderfully. What's this?! He teleports away? you ve got some lag, i've looke twice, and my operative has no teleport spell, played all three trees, never found it, darn, that could sure come in handy, I wish I could find it. You use your speed ability and run after him, but he's much faster than you. yes cause you did not snare him, you know that spell that you never use and that could alone change your record of 100% losses to 80% losses ( yes from that little story we can guess you still have a lot of things to work on) Where is he? Oh here he is, he just popped out of stealth and killed you. did he use vanish or were you unable to hit him for a full 15 seconds and he out of combat restealth, At that point I have to ask the question. Nice. Oh look! He's still on 100% HP! Nice. Yeah he perfected another noob, he must feel so proud of himself, If I were him I may have saved my 2 minutes restealth cooldown for a rainy day cause you clearly didn't deserve the whole shebang. Then, while you're at the respawn, you try to figure out whether this was even a dps specc, or rather a heal specc that just killed you. I guess even a 0/0/0 would have perfected you, cause you know so little about pvp in this game, I wonder how you can come here and laucnh a nerf thread when you know jack sht, learn to play first, leave nerf/buff posts to people who have a clue, like game designers and top RGB teams. P.S. To all who now say l2p: l2p yourself. We did, that is how we can do that to people like you who did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajuntalee Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I just hate stuns..... Was playing ancient hypergate, and was the only one defending the pylon some stealth class stuns me and starts capturing the pylon, I used Tenacity to get out of the stun then i was stunned again???? ***??? then they just captured it, put stealth back on and ****ed off! That is ridiculous imo ok you could have 2 defending the pylon... but what then? what if there's 2 stun happy classes taking the pylon? your still screwed "They" you ve been using kind of suggest there was already at least 2, to simultaneously stun 2 people twice in a row and cap, is not practical, and if it is done it requires better timing, and coordination than you could ever sport, so I guess you could just accept the fact better players will outmatch you, cause well, they are better. a single good player cannot put the trick you describe on another good player, cause a good solo player defending the node is 1 a stealther himself, 2 located close enough so that he can instantly hit a player capping, but far enough so someone mezzing him cannot start capping right away and finsih before mez is over. when a team can afford to put 2 people on a node to defend they do, cause you never know if the other team is not going to mount a "coup" with a pair of stealther to snatch it from you if you are solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endel Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I just hate stuns..... Was playing ancient hypergate, and was the only one defending the pylon some stealth class stuns me and starts capturing the pylon, I used Tenacity to get out of the stun then i was stunned again???? ***??? then they just captured it, put stealth back on and ****ed off! That is ridiculous imo ok you could have 2 defending the pylon... but what then? what if there's 2 stun happy classes taking the pylon? your still screwed The highlited part is where you made the mistake. Instead of crying about OP's because they ninja capped a pylon from you (oh how i love to do that) try these two points: 1. do not use your cc breaker ability after the first sleep dart (or whatever other skill assasins, shadows and scoundrels have in stealth to put you to sleep) but after the second. Second sleep dart white bar you and there you go, crying problem solved. 2. Don't stand right next to a pylon or a turret (ACW). If a stealther has to run to a pylon and then start the cap, most of the time you will be able to hit him before he will cap. Mind that the cap time on AH is 6 secs while in ACW it is 8 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racter Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Don't stand within 10m of the pylon ever on defense even as stealth. Or, do. The lulz of sap capping a stealther in ahg are almost beyond measure. Edited June 24, 2013 by Racter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Nice. Pops out of stealth and stuns you like an assassin. Then he starts making some nice damage. Runs into cover. You try something, first ranged, then you try getting close, but nope. He's immune to all that. Nice. Then he makes some nice damage on you. With instants, while jumping around. and running. You finally manage to dps him a little bit. What's this? You're stunned again. From out of range! What?! He can heal himself back to 100% with one instant! Nice. You dps a little, but then you realise you're on 10% HP. Finally you stun him and dps a little. What's this?! He teleports away? You use your speed ability and run after him, but he's much faster than you. Where is he? Oh here he is, he just popped out of stealth and killed you. Nice. Oh look! He's still on 100% HP! Nice. This is such an awesome read. 10/10!! Especially the "makes some nice damage" stuff. hahaha Please write some more! For instance, what do you think of Jugg/Mara Smashers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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