Dayshadow Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm playing voidstar and we are getting whopped. My entire team is guarding 1 door and I am single handedly guarding another. If trouble arises, I have a help message pre-typed and ready to go. With my entire team, save me, guarding 1 door the alarm sounds off within the first minute. I'm thinking, "***? How incompetent are these idiots". So in the next room I'm going to have to lay down the law. I'm a commando so I'm going in to rain fsome hell on these punks. Oh, wait... they are lvl 50 and can kill anyone on my team in 5 hits. The empire team was practically all lvl 50. I'm not bragging, but it's extremely rare for me to lose a 1v1 fight with any class. Especially a warrior. Losing so fast to a warrior made me stop and check his lvl - it was 50. I actually look at his name - it's Darth Suchinsuch. I look over and see Lord Soandso, another lvl 50. This warrior could take on 3 of us. And he's just one of the 4 lvl 50s. At this point, if I see "darth" or "lord" I'll quit. I don't care what anyone says. Having no chance whatsoever is not Player vs Player. It's player vs godmode. The fact that all the PvP gear is lvl 50 only (unless they changed it back) only adds insult to injury as they get additional benefits on top of lvl superiority. I don't know if giving lower lvls PvP gear would help, but bolster is definitely not enough. Their damage in just fundamentally too high to be playing with low to mid levels. I recall playing Alderaan and 2 lvl 50 inquisitors held a turret from an attack by 5 other players. This freed up the rest of their team to guard the other turret. We'd have to use an execssive amount of people to take either, thus leaving the 1 we had open. Whatever we did we'd only be able to hold 1 at any given time. Barring complete incompetence of the opposing team we could not possibly win w/o an unending chain of critical hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogelBolla Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 id be in favor something like a 1-29 bracket and a 30-50 bracket or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLpride Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 they said that there is some sort of matchmaking in mind, if they are smart they will bring it online as players begin to fill the upper ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolflare Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Lol I found it funny when I saw lvl 50s on the enemy side while on my side was lvl 11s. The Lvl 50s obviously had an advantage by having access to more useful skills compared to a lowbie with just a few skills. Plus considering they had superb pvp gear... I know BW did great trying to level it out having lower players still be able to pvp warzone with higher ranks but their needs some separation by level or something to make it a little more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 OH, I don't know, makes for 'interesting' PvP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnGround Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 i definatly agree lvl 50 should have its own bracket, and 10-49 should its own bracket. we all know crazy 41-50 wsg was, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashley Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 PvP in this game is broke. I thought this was an mmo set in a war setting. All BW wants you to do war with is quest giver NPCs by selecting the most evil options during their VO cut scences because clearly PvP was NOT thoroughly thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayshadow Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 id be in favor something like a 1-29 bracket and a 30-50 bracket or something like that They'd have to do better than that. 10-30 31-40 41-49 50 - Since only 50 can get PvP gear they need to be by themselves. I'm not sure how the leveling curve goes in TOR, but typically the last 10 levels are way more powerful than the previous ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetian Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They said in beta that they were going to implement a bracket system for launch. Apparently this wasn't high on thier priority, or they have no idea how to do it. That is quite a blunder imo. True the only difference in pvp is the skill-set in regard to levels (and well maybe some gear, expertise wise, but the stats should be roughly similiar). I haven't pvp'd yet, was waiting to level 20ish..but now that I hear that the bracket system wasn't implemented, I feel no desire to pvp now. So OP, def feel your frustration. It's one thing to deal with it in beta like we did..it's another to deal with it at launch. Big mistake by BW imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masmun Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Even non 50's there is gear you can get for or from pvp'ing. At levels 20 and 40. I found them at the fleet station. I havent faced any level 50's but I was 16 and was up against 38's at one point and was not simply mowed over. I had a fighting chance against one. But as I said have no clue on facing level 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetian Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Even non 50's there is gear you can get for or from pvp'ing. At levels 20 and 40. I found them at the fleet station. I havent faced any level 50's but I was 16 and was up against 38's at one point and was not simply mowed over. I had a fighting chance against one. But as I said have no clue on facing level 50's. Yes there is gear for lower levels. Thats not a huge difference. The real discrepancy is the skill set between lower levels and higher levels. Esp when your talking 15 versus 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOuija Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I would also like a bracket system.. say 10-29 and 30-49 and lvl 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethusa Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 They should categorise or low level people will keep complaining about pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damedus Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 as a Ops i took down 2 lvs 50 at lv 22 in hutball so the bolster works for me(also the expertise pot) their damage is relative the same as mine with bolster but it was my cc and heals that pulled it in my favor. In any case id say is the skill set and talents is what gives lv 50 players that edge and of course if they had pvp gear but id say 10-25, 26-49 and 50 brackets would work best. I think the no brackets is cause the pvp is on your own server only and not cross server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commandkill Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 pvp is meant to be competitive gameplay but I don't understand how there can be any competition in a obviously better opponent through a bigger skill set. Also does the system take into consideration gear stats when upping the base stats of the lower levelled players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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