DarkDajin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) It is more of a question than a statement, but if one looks at the changes coming in update 2.0 -FPs re-designed for lvl 55-Ranked Warzones only for lvl 55-Removal of lvl 50 Recruit Wargear-New PvP brackets (10-20, 30 - 54, 55) It looks like there is no more viable Elder Game remaining for those who do not purchase the expansion.So are they forcing us to buy this? Edited February 21, 2013 by DarkDajin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typeslice Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) It is more of a question than a statement, but if one looks at the changes coming in update 2.0 -FPs re-designed for lvl 55 -Ranked Warzones only for lvl 55 -Removal of lvl 50 Recruit Wargear -New PvP brackets (10-20, 30 - 54, 55) It looks like there is no more viable Elder Game remaining for those who do not purchase the expansion. You can do all old world raids and get haz mat. And +1 for misleading titles. well played.... Edited February 21, 2013 by Typeslice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDajin Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 As taken from the other thread, a lvl 50 cap would leave you with very little: My understanding is this: the 2.0 patch makes changes to the current game in the form of class balancing and bug fixes which will apply to everyone. Buying RotHC is the only way to access level 55, Makeb, and any features (besides 55) not in this patch but in the expansion. What this means for those who don't buy the expansion is they will be stuck at level 50. In my exploration of the test server this is bad news for those who do not buy the expansion as all level 50 gear vendors on the fleet have been removed. If this is the case on live, progression will cease for those who don't purchase the expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) from patchnotes - current hardmodes are still going to stay lvl 50 and will drop blackhole gear - they are redesigning flashpoints that are currently available at low levels only (in fact, its kind of a beef of mine, that we're not getting any new flashpoints, just old ones, brought up to lvl 55). all but one op are staying at lvl 50, dropping higher level gear. there will still be lvl 50 warzones. current coms will be converted to planetary ones, and current daily coms will also be converted into new currency, redeemable at the new fleet vendors. you will still have something to do. unlike other games where expansions do in fact make old content completely obsolete and require you to buy them to access new end game. standard MMO practice with bioware actually attempting to take people who might not be buying expansions into consideration. Edited February 21, 2013 by Jeweledleah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelDranoel Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 50 Flashpoints are still there. They even added EC when I looked with my 50. pvp brackets have been extended so being 50 will not make a difference. 55 is the new top tier. If you are not a sub, then we assume you are playing for the story from 1-50 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hargrave Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 well they already dont like the f2p people if this dont run them off besides bieng charged for everything short of breathing im not sure what will. I cant see buying a content update bieng sold as xpac when they made god aweful gear sets again lol. Seriously whoever is greenlighting that garbage armor should be fired or go work for a fantasy mmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTHC Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 from patchnotes - current hardmodes are still going to stay lvl 50 and will drop blackhole gear - they are redesigning flashpoints that are currently available at low levels only (in fact, its kind of a beef of mine, that we're not getting any new flashpoints, just old ones, brought up to lvl 55). all but one op are staying at lvl 50, dropping higher level gear. there will still be lvl 50 warzones. current coms will be converted to planetary ones, and current daily coms will also be converted into new currency, redeemable at the new fleet vendors. you will still have something to do. unlike other games where expansions do in fact make old content completely obsolete and require you to buy them to access new end game. standard MMO practice with bioware actually attempting to take people who might not be buying expansions into consideration. They're far more kind than I might be were I running things. At a whopping $10 for the expansion, I wouldn't hesitate to overlook any players who didn't buy. Then again, maybe they need to cater to everyone because losing even a small percentage would hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateslice Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It makes sense to get rid of the level 50 gear vendors at some point. Space on the Fleet is limited; they can't just keep cramming more and more vendors in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 ... so.. it's EXACTLY like EVERY OTHER MMO EVER!!! Every single MMO restricts the new end game content to people who purchased the expansion. EVERY SINGLE ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasMarine Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 They're far more kind than I might be were I running things. At a whopping $10 for the expansion, I wouldn't hesitate to overlook any players who didn't buy. Then again, maybe they need to cater to everyone because losing even a small percentage would hurt. just to point out, it's $10 for subs and $20 for F2P. Not that it make a big difference but still,...thought it should be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAlset Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 You can still play. I would be surprised if doing lvl 50 dailies & fp's Didn't give you xp. Just won't get the new stuff until it hits the cartel market & GTN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If you don't buy the game, why should you get to play the content? It's almost as good as undoing f2p. I don't mind box to play, but f2p is just too much. I say this after analyzing the behaviour of the new players it brought in who have incredibly bad attitudes in pvp and pve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 As taken from the other thread, a lvl 50 cap would leave you with very little: Most of the game is contained under level 50.... 8 classes worth of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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