Lium Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Not sure how it is on others, but on POTF, the Republic is so bad that people are constantly bailing early. Why is it that rated warzones give deserter debuffs but regular warzones do not? At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlomamf Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. Impossible, that would require actual work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invictusthetaru Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Not sure how it is on others, but on POTF, the Republic is so bad that people are constantly bailing early. Why is it that rated warzones give deserter debuffs but regular warzones do not? At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. Yeah it's bad on both sides. Funny thing is, whenever I enter a warzone, and we go from spanked to pulling out a win, I can't help but think "wow the quitter I replaced must have sucked just as bad" So it's not like people that quit are good, which is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashbrother Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Not sure how it is on others, but on POTF, the Republic is so bad that people are constantly bailing early. Why is it that rated warzones give deserter debuffs but regular warzones do not? At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. It's cause weekly requires wins. I'm not staying in a ****** game when my daily is already done, and I need wins to complete my weekly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedImage Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Not sure how it is on others, but on POTF, the Republic is so bad that people are constantly bailing early. Why is it that rated warzones give deserter debuffs but regular warzones do not? At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. I would like to point out that "leaving warzones early" is not the problem. It is merely a symptom of the problem. The real problem is the imbalances that people are seeing in WZ's, which gives them a feeling of "zero chance to win", so then they leave. Or RL stuff pops up. It's usually one or the other. ymmv. Edited January 10, 2013 by WickedImage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatterstar Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 So, give people that quit a wz the ten minute cool-down that people who quit the group-finder flashpoints get. Maybe then people will stick around? The thing about the quitters that frustrates me most is joining a loosing warzone, just in time (or with little time to spare) to see the leader-board. Meaning I didn't even have time to earn a medal and get something for my wasted time. It happens way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darka Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The only time i leave is when i crash, like just then >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calitri Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Did a couple a WZ's on my Commando recently, the few games I did. We either got 2 to 1 capped in alderaan, or the pylon got ninja'd in hypergate or the first door would get blown. And you'd see a couple of people drop out in each of these instances. Where it gets funny, we ended up winning each one. I love the Republic on Bastion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macroeconomics Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This stuff happens once in awhile, but I wouldn't saw it is an epidemic. Personally, I've always been in favor of a minor inconvenience penalty for people who leave warzones. Something like a -1 penalty to Endurance that stacks and can only be removed by visiting a distant location on Quesh. Penalize the people who leave warzones with the one penalty they really dislike - a minor hit to their time budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zataos Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Not sure how it is on others, but on POTF, the Republic is so bad that people are constantly bailing early. Why is it that rated warzones give deserter debuffs but regular warzones do not? At the very least, BW could put a message in a queue pop that says "Warzone in progress" like they do for FPs. So are bad players on mine....... I don't know, I used to be against it, but now, with no matchmaker in place you can tell in the 1st 1 min or so what type of team your on and if most of my teammates don't care to play as a team then why so I care about them? Put in a matchmaker, pair premades with premades, experienced players with experienced players and scrubs with scrubs and we all get to have a fair chance at a winning round. Edited January 10, 2013 by Zataos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rincewend Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The only time i leave is when i crash, like just then >.< Same for me, the only time I exit early is on CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feztonio Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 i only do it on my 50 toons... mostly because there's a few guilds on my server who gear out with full on elite and ranked WH but then 4 man up premade the unranked wz's just to dominate and bully the pugs and gearing up recruit-level gear players. i'm sure if you are one of those people you must highfive each other and be all gangster hero for beating on people you're over-geared against but it just makes the /lfg warzones suck. when i see these people on my lvl 50 toons i just drop que and wait to reque a few. its no fun being farmed. i refuse to pay 15 dollars so i can be raped a billion times by some guild on vent when i get matched with pugs in pve gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBabyEater Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I'm on Pot5 and I'm a "quiter" because frankly if I load in to a wz and all my team sets out to do is death match then I'm gonna leave. When I do a wz I play it to win, not wave my ***** around and brag about top damage but win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampiel Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I'm on Pot5 and I'm a "quiter" because frankly if I load in to a wz and all my team sets out to do is death match then I'm gonna leave. When I do a wz I play it to win, not wave my ***** around and brag about top damage but win. Theres nothing wrong with going into a match and not giving a damn about dumb objectives, and only wanting to pvp to smash someones brain in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zataos Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Theres nothing wrong with going into a match and not giving a damn about dumb objectives, and only wanting to pvp to smash someones brain in Sarcasm? not sure but... Nothing wrong other than screwing everybody else on your team trying to actually win. Edited January 10, 2013 by Zataos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siorac Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yeah it's bad on both sides. Funny thing is, whenever I enter a warzone, and we go from spanked to pulling out a win, I can't help but think "wow the quitter I replaced must have sucked just as bad" So it's not like people that quit are good, which is odd. Hehe, the other day we had a very close-fought Novare Coast which we eventually lost. One Shadow kept badmouthing everyone, saying how we suck, asking in disbelief how could we lose the bunker etc. Then up came the results. The friend I queued with did 521k damage, I did 479k. The Shadow did 64k damage, 0 protection and died 8 times. Moral of the story: the biggest moaners and quickest quitters are usually the worst players who seemingly expect to be carried through the warzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudim Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I think this a good thread to ask: If you see your team will lose, and there's nothing you can do what can you do to make the other team win faster?? I mean, If we are losing no matter what, why delay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramtar Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) I'm on PotF, and the only time I leave is when I'm getting the red dot of death lag (1000 ms+). Lag has been really bad for me on PotF since F2P was introduced. Edited January 10, 2013 by Ramtar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrekxxx Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Theres nothing wrong with going into a match and not giving a damn about dumb objectives, and only wanting to pvp to smash someones brain in rly? lol, no surprise ppl quit ... 1. before wz in spawn i usually ask who is healer, usually no answer 2. when we are loosing i ask if any of 4 useless dps sorcerers could field respec to heal - no answer 3. ask if one operative/stealther/ could replace marauder who is guarding turret - no answer 4. i ask juggernaut in soresu why plays without guard on - no answe and finally i see in ops chat this sentence : dude stop whining and play time to quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody-licious Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 rly? lol, no surprise ppl quit ... 1. before wz in spawn i usually ask who is healer, usually no answer 2. when we are loosing i ask if any of 4 useless dps sorcerers could field respec to heal - no answer 3. ask if one operative/stealther/ could replace marauder who is guarding turret - no answer 4. i ask juggernaut in soresu why plays without guard on - no answe and finally i see in ops chat this sentence : dude stop whining and play time to quit Haha, I've had this quite a few times before as well. In what is supposed to be a team- & objective-based instance, having complete silence in the Ops chat when 1 or 2 people are trying to lead or suggest some solutions, is really frustrating. And of course, from your best intentions, you get portrayed as the whiney, *****y bad guy -- go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelloweyedemon Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lol the only problem that exists here is caused by players and players alone. When ppl are not giving a **** about objectives and the only thing they do is trying to dps, then they can just sit there 589796 hours and do so. Not everyone wants to waste their time trying to tell kids what to do. Another example is when 4 members on your team are on full pve gear with 0 expertise... You can't argue with those ppl 'logic' lol! Leaving warzone is the best thing to do in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeochins Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Quitting is my way of avoiding telling people what mistakes they made that they absolutely refuse to correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesixxpack Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Theres nothing wrong with going into a match and not giving a damn about dumb objectives, and only wanting to pvp to smash someones brain in I'm on POT5 and do not quit because we're losing. I quit when my team is comprised of guys that believe this, wasting my time. Edited January 10, 2013 by Joesixxpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) It's cause weekly requires wins. I'm not staying in a ****** game when my daily is already done, and I need wins to complete my weekly. ding ding ding. When you are trying to complete the weekly on two characters, there's little time to waste on bads not following objectives or working as a team. Edited January 10, 2013 by islander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haterglowstick Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) ding ding ding. When you are trying to complete the weekly on two characters, there's little time to waste on bads not following objectives or working as a team. two? try five :'( Edited January 10, 2013 by haterglowstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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