rymasta Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I just hit 50 on my vanguard and have tried tanking in pvp. Its not my favorite role and I wasnt doing any dmg so i switched to dps. As DPS I wasnt surviving at all so im torn. This is my first MMO so I'm new to all this stuff and I dont quite understand. I want to increase my damage and survivability. I know that that will come with gear but I dont know what gear to get or what augments to use. The build is 4/6/31. Should I use 4 pieces of supercommando for the set bonus and the rifle and shield and then use combat tech for the rest? That was just and idea i got from someone else but i dont want to buy the wrong stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielHex Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I just hit 50 on my vanguard and have tried tanking in pvp. Its not my favorite role and I wasnt doing any dmg so i switched to dps. As DPS I wasnt surviving at all so im torn. This is my first MMO so I'm new to all this stuff and I dont quite understand. I want to increase my damage and survivability. I know that that will come with gear but I dont know what gear to get or what augments to use. The build is 4/6/31. Should I use 4 pieces of supercommando for the set bonus and the rifle and shield and then use combat tech for the rest? That was just and idea i got from someone else but i dont want to buy the wrong stuff You can't have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 theres got to be a way to increase each in a balance though right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaika Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Yes, once you get full wh and you aug it out you will have improved your dmg and survivability considerably regardless of spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domatron Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Tank vanguards are not in a good place for pvp atm so I would just build the full dps set. The survivability will go up as you get more war hero gear and more expertise but full pyro vanguards are glass cannons. Your best defense will always be killing the other guy first, luckily you have the best burst in game. For now just try to assist better geared teammates, don't charge in first like Rambo. If you make smart use of your stuns and shield it can go along way. Keep in mind kiting melee is very effective as well since all of your abilities can hit at 10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunnerx Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Even if you get armor that has shielding you have to have your ion cylinder (or whatever the republic equivalent is) to activate it, and if you are going up the third tree you have to have a certain cylinder on to get the proc on your hammer shot I think it is. So you really gotta pick one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Holmes Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Tank vanguards are not in a good place for pvp atm so I would just build the full dps set. The survivability will go up as you get more war hero gear and more expertise but full pyro vanguards are glass cannons. Your best defense will always be killing the other guy first, luckily you have the best burst in game. For now just try to assist better geared teammates, don't charge in first like Rambo. If you make smart use of your stuns and shield it can go along way. Keep in mind kiting melee is very effective as well since all of your abilities can hit at 10m. I would say that operative burst is a bit better, considering the surprise attack, stun, dot and explosive charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 Ok so what should I do to be a solid pvp contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunnerx Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I would say that operative burst is a bit better, considering the surprise attack, stun, dot and explosive charge. Yeah but Ops have that one rotation which won't really kill anyone anymore and can easily be thwarted by your CC break. If you think Ops have better burst than Powertechs/Vanguards you haven't played any ranked. NO even semi decent ranked team would take a DPS Op over a PT/Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistrunnerx Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Ok so what should I do to be a solid pvp contender You should go up the third (shared) tree and get the set of gear that gives you +15% chance for your hammer shot to crit or whatever your equivalent to rail shot is Edited January 1, 2013 by Mistrunnerx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verydanger Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Until you get more experience and better gear, just try keeping your distance from the enemy/enemies. Kite that single melee opponent with your snare from Ion Pulse, and always take a few steps back from that clump of enemies (although it is always tempting to go in for a Stockstrike). Heck, just spam Hammer Shots and Impact Bolts from 30m until you find an opportunity close in on an enemy who stands a bit separated from his group - and don't chase him when he runs back to his comrades. You will not be playing the class to it's full potential this way of course, but it's a place to start. Even later on, always keeping the correct distance is key to playing this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'm not doing terrible in wzs at all i come in 4th for damage most of the time and the people ahead of me are usually elite war hero. we all have our bad days but I find myself to be pretty dangerous as DPS. I am just wondering about the armor. right now im almost full War hero Combat tech which is the dps set. I was wondering if there were inserts or other pieces that arent in that set that i should be looking for to become better. Along with that I want to know which elite war hero set to get which you guys answered(combat tech) but which augments should i get ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domatron Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 +18 aim augments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmymillertime Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It looks like you want to tank with high dps, which is possible, check this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=2770 What I am doing, is going 5 piece suppercommando set with all defense mods and dps enhancments, then implants and earpieces are dps and both relics are defense ones. The goal is to have high dps and high defense and no absorb/shield as defense has a chance to dodge all attacks, while shield/absorb only has a chance on some abilites. I am full war hero suppercommando in all spots, since I pve dailies and such, so I will be min maxing him in the future for this build once comms become useless on this toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graziell Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It looks like you want to tank with high dps, which is possible, check this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=2770 What I am doing, is going 5 piece suppercommando set with all defense mods and dps enhancments, then implants and earpieces are dps and both relics are defense ones. The goal is to have high dps and high defense and no absorb/shield as defense has a chance to dodge all attacks, while shield/absorb only has a chance on some abilites. I am full war hero suppercommando in all spots, since I pve dailies and such, so I will be min maxing him in the future for this build once comms become useless on this toon. shh dont do that. 8/6/27 and kill everything before it kills you. Also note, you got the (wrong) set, you want the +15% crit chance to HIB and not to Stockstrike. If you want to be tanky while delivering good damage reroll as sin:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I play assault. If you go assault you want the 4 piece Eliminators set. Run the 4/6/31 spec until you have all WH gear with aim augments, then switch to 7/3/31. The job of this spec is to kill stuff in a short period of time, called burst. Primary targets are healers. You will be squishy. The way I gear is expertise>Aim>ranged critical 30% unbuffed>power>surge to 75%>ranged accuracy to 98%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 wait i should get eliminators gear i thought that was for commandos i have been getting combat tech gear and I have like 5 pieces already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 wait i should get eliminators gear i thought that was for commandos i have been getting combat tech gear and I have like 5 pieces already If you plan on playing Assault then Elimanators is the best set. The 4-piece set bonus is the best thing in game for Assault. Combat Tech gear is the best for Tactics, its ok for assault I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 are you serious cause i'm more than halfway to full combat tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrigPt Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 A lot Vanguard tanks use the Combat Tech set for PVP. For assualt spec you should use Eliminator for the 4piece set bonus (+15% to HiB crit). The assualt spec is built around HiB so it makes sense to buff it with the set bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 are you serious cause i'm more than halfway to full combat tech Don't sweat it too much, WH gear doesn't take to long to get. Plus you can rip the good mods and enhancements out of the.combat gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Thats true well i appreciate the help guys. ok so i want eliminator gear through elite war hero and I want aim augments. This will make my burst damage great and with that I'll survive more.correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pretty much. Survivability is based on killing stuff fast, knowing when to use stuns, and kiting melee stay more than 4 meters away but not 10 or more meters. Certain classes have a huge advantage to you, don't get discourage if they give it to you. A well played assassin/shadow, guardian/juggernaut, and sniper/gunslinger can be rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rymasta Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 but if played right could i be extremely dangerous cause i got a 50 commando and realized how disadvantaged i was so i made a vangaurd and got to 50 (which took me awhile) will i be able to be a serious threat as this class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 but if played right could i be extremely dangerous cause i got a 50 commando and realized how disadvantaged i was so i made a vangaurd and got to 50 (which took me awhile) will i be able to be a serious threat as this class Yes if played right you can be a serious threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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