thamightyboro Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Are BW actually going to do anything with it or even acknowledge its an issue I don't spend much time on forums so haven't seen if they have acknowledged it's a problem and if they are planning to do anything about it had a quick search but certainly couldn't find anything by them on the issue. 10 warzones today 90% of both teams made up of smashers being hit for up to 9k is great fun (full wh v my full bm minus ear and 1 implant) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMike Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 They need a class that even worst players can be great with. Yah it makes PvP terrible, but since its just a side attraction for PvEers it doesnt matter to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTomorrow Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) The problem is, when a new FOTM appears, people instead of rolling the counter class, they roll the FOTM and aggravate the situation even more. For the very lulz of it, I had a few WZ where we went with a 4 sniper premade. The republic scums fielded 4 sents and 2 guardians on voidstar. Needless to say, we ruined somebody's day, it was a bloody massacre. Edited December 3, 2012 by NoTomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majspuffen Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The buffs to rage/focus were stupid, from a pvp perspective (why buff a spec that was already performing well?). But I'm not sure if the issue is smashers, per se. The damage is out of hand, in this game. 1.6 seem to be adressing the insane gear gap, which is a good first step. But they really need to tone damage across the board. Forgive the exaggeration, but skill in pvp can be boiled down to which person stuns the other first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzHottle Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I do never see smash class, are the fighting for Republic sides or Empires? U used rifle as sniper class, I am ok but not great I do not know what is good so I shoot man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesixxpack Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) I recall a dev response at least a month ago saying they're aware of gripes about it, and are basically monitoring it. In the meantime I decided to make the best of it, playing my GS more and rolled a sniper. It's fun watching the smash mobs leaping around nodes and quickly wiping them out. Edited December 3, 2012 by Joesixxpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The problem is, when a new FOTM appears, people instead of rolling the counter class, they roll the FOTM and aggravate the situation even more. For the very lulz of it, I had a few WZ where we went with a 4 sniper premade. The republic scums fielded 4 sents and 2 guardians on voidstar. Needless to say, we ruined somebody's day, it was a bloody massacre. I may be reaching here that there are plenty of counters for this class out there in 50 pvp. When playing deception I have absolutely no issue with smash jug, a 30% AoE damage reduction with a well timed force shroud or blackout and when my defenses are down so is the jug with the burst I have at my disposal. Keep in mind rage jugs are fairly squishy, at least thats what I take from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warultima Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 But thats a fotm to counter another. Try a merc or oprtative where they dont even have 30%aoe reduction. Your 18sec 25% dr and a force tech god mode at their disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesixxpack Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 But thats a fotm to counter another. Try a merc or oprtative where they dont even have 30%aoe reduction. Your 18sec 25% dr and a force tech god mode at their disposal. Are you saying sins are FOTM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purre Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Are BW actually going to do anything with it or even acknowledge its an issue I don't spend much time on forums so haven't seen if they have acknowledged it's a problem and if they are planning to do anything about it had a quick search but certainly couldn't find anything by them on the issue. 10 warzones today 90% of both teams made up of smashers being hit for up to 9k is great fun (full wh v my full bm minus ear and 1 implant) dont worry they nerfed Annihilation / Watchman last patch so they are clearly ontop of the problem..... *troll* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poosticks Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Are BW actually going to do anything with it or even acknowledge its an issue I don't spend much time on forums so haven't seen if they have acknowledged it's a problem and if they are planning to do anything about it had a quick search but certainly couldn't find anything by them on the issue. 10 warzones today 90% of both teams made up of smashers being hit for up to 9k is great fun (full wh v my full bm minus ear and 1 implant) I think your warzone statistics are slightly exaggerated, nevertheless i was hit with a 4.5k sweep by a level 45 guardian on my sorcerer yesterday. Big thumbs up to BW for yet more piss poor class balancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atramar Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Are you saying sins are FOTM? every class other then merc is FOTP OP rotfl lol stomper asking for nerf PT? OMG FOTM marauder? omg *** fotm sin? op fotm!!11 jugg? smash fotm stomp operative? aww my gawd stunzorz fotm sniper? nerf!! op fotm sorcer? bublbe is op fotm. merc? omg I leave this wz he sucks Edited December 3, 2012 by Atramar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSeC Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 every class other then merc is FOTP OP rotfl lol stomper asking for nerf PT? OMG FOTM marauder? omg *** fotm sin? op fotm!!11 jugg? smash fotm stomp operative? aww my gawd stunzorz fotm sniper? nerf!! op fotm sorcer? bublbe is op fotm. merc? omg I leave this wz he sucks Yep... L2P is all this is. In this game any toon has an ability another would consider OP. In the words of Darth Sidius: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. My toon is not a reroll fotm... it is my oldest toon from launch back on Kinrath Spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanSolUgad Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I have already complained to BW about smash damage, I said the serious WZs would be full of Shadows, Jugs and Maras. From what I have seen this seems to be the case, a lot of those gearing up if not those classes are stealth. I have learnt through these forums that I am not a good player so I can not complain about an average 7.6 loss to win ratio on the rep side over the last month. PvP is about team play and the teams I have played with recently have no cohesion. But I can confirm that a fully defence augmented and defence relic equipped WH commando with defence mods (and 2 items of Elite gear) gets smashed for 6.4K, 5K is very common. My BM sage got a 7.6K smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAnconia Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I have already complained to BW about smash damage, I said the serious WZs would be full of Shadows, Jugs and Maras. From what I have seen this seems to be the case, a lot of those gearing up if not those classes are stealth. I have learnt through these forums that I am not a good player so I can not complain about an average 7.6 loss to win ratio on the rep side over the last month. PvP is about team play and the teams I have played with recently have no cohesion. But I can confirm that a fully defence augmented and defence relic equipped WH commando with defence mods (and 2 items of Elite gear) gets smashed for 6.4K, 5K is very common. My BM sage got a 7.6K smash. You really need to L2P. Defense chance does NOT reduce the amount of damage you take - it only increases your chance to avoid someone else's attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAnconia Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 every class other then merc is FOTP OP rotfl lol stomper asking for nerf PT? OMG FOTM marauder? omg *** fotm sin? op fotm!!11 jugg? smash fotm stomp operative? aww my gawd stunzorz fotm sniper? nerf!! op fotm sorcer? bublbe is op fotm. merc? omg I leave this wz he sucks To be fair, sorc dps also needs a buff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanSolUgad Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 You really need to L2P. Defense chance does NOT reduce the amount of damage you take - it only increases your chance to avoid someone else's attack. Ah finally, someone who can teach me to play! So how do I stop the massive smash damage or at least reduce it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAnconia Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Ah finally, someone who can teach me to play! So how do I stop the massive smash damage or at least reduce it? I really can't help someone who wants to use DEFENSE mods on a commando... Learn to use ccs (esp kb and force sprint) on your sage, but I suspect you already got used to playing a turret-style commando... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atramar Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Ah finally, someone who can teach me to play! So how do I stop the massive smash damage or at least reduce it? more armour rating, poping your shield before smash, or killing smash derp on distance before his next smash (unless you have 7k hp, so will get one shoted. def chance won't block smash either so very pointless on commando.. (merc for imps) Edited December 3, 2012 by Atramar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyDragonflame Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 every class other then merc is FOTP OP rotfl lol stomper asking for nerf PT? OMG FOTM marauder? omg *** fotm sin? op fotm!!11 jugg? smash fotm stomp operative? aww my gawd stunzorz fotm sniper? nerf!! op fotm sorcer? bublbe is op fotm. merc? omg I leave this wz he sucks ^ This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslampigduex Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 its is pretty f*ucked up that a juggy can smash a bunch of people for 7-8k when a healers biggest heal is about 7.5 to 8 k and also single target... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSeC Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Ah finally, someone who can teach me to play! So how do I stop the massive smash damage or at least reduce it? Why would you have defense mods and relics on a dps/healer class? It increases your chance to avoid damage but not to decrease the damage you receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sDiesel Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 mara's are still FotM? works for me, FotM when i leave and when i come back. least it's the only class i play. since day one of release mind you. just a thought...but crusing through patch notes(very quickly) i didnt notice much change to 'lolsmash' since 1.2...guess it takes a long time for a spec to really shine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaanaOhtar Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The problem is Smash Aoe, and has the cool down of 15 sec, and constantly deal high damage. If a group intend to take a node; 2 smash would take down half of 5 player HP instantly. I would prefer they increase the cool down for smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minack Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Looking forward to the nerf so I don't feel guilty playing my Jug. I miss Vengeance anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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