grallmate Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Except I regularly see Gav Daragon on Medium, and USA Server Ebon Hawk on medium. I log on to Gav, only 50 people. Log on to Ebon Hawk, around 200+. Standard is a range, not a number. You also need to consider all the planets, not just fleet. Recently there can be close to 100 on all the starter planets and Coruscant on Dalborra but only about 50 on fleet. I'm not sure when it hits Heavy but I would assume that Standard is probably the largest range. I'd guess something like: Light = <25% of capacity Standard = 25%-75% of capacity Heavy = 75%-90% of capacity Very Heavy = 90%-99% of capacity Full = 100% of capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claprica Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Except I regularly see Gav Daragon on Medium, and USA Server Ebon Hawk on medium. I log on to Gav, only 50 people. Log on to Ebon Hawk, around 200+. And they also have multiple instances of 200+ on the fleet at peak times. AFAIK APAC servers are still the older, smaller types and not the super servers - hence why we didn't get extra character slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebrynis Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I don't think that's the case. APAC servers haven't hit heavy since the first round of server cap raises, however Dalborra retained a fairly healthy population until well after that. It was only around August that Dalborra started to drop noticeably. I agree that the servers haven't been north of 'Medium' in forever. These days, I see Gav Daragon at Medium, with the others stuck at Low (though I have occasionally seen Dalborra rise above Low occasionally). With a Medium population, GD's population is, to put it nicely, a joke. I imagine the same holds true for Dalborra at the best of times, and MDN must be a howling, empty wasteland (no direct experience with either of the latter two, admittedly). The last couple of days, I've been surprised to get into a full warzone inside of five minutes, that's something I'm unaccustomed to. A lot of it is likely F2P folks, as I see several level 10's to 20's (or so) with no Legacy names, and rarely more than once in a series of warzones. Maybe F2P is a minor shot in the arm in that regard, but it's not enough for long-term viability. Most people will roll on EU or NA servers, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that's where all the people are going to be, even if one doesn't look at server population levels beforehand. I have a lone toon on Begeren Colony, and F2P folks are literally everywhere, and a Medium population is measured in scores, if not more, in the Imperial Fleet alone. APAC servers need this sort of number if they want to remain viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esno Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 And we still get screwed over. Once agin still took 30-60min last night after maintenance finished to do a HM FP on Dalborra which is crazy Most i saw on fleet was 70-80 people at about 10pm AEST (maintenance was finished b4 8.40pm when i logged in) If it wasnt for guild runs prob wouldnt be able to do Ops runs as GF SM Ops havent popped in weeks, only with people spamming fleet do they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scullzomben Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Standard is a range, not a number. You also need to consider all the planets, not just fleet. Recently there can be close to 100 on all the starter planets and Coruscant on Dalborra but only about 50 on fleet. I'm not sure when it hits Heavy but I would assume that Standard is probably the largest range. I'd guess something like: Light = <25% of capacity Standard = 25%-75% of capacity Heavy = 75%-90% of capacity Very Heavy = 90%-99% of capacity Full = 100% of capacity This is true, however the EU and US servers have a higher population cap. For example, and making up numbers here as no one knows the true numbers, an APAC server might be able to hold 1000 people. Being standard could mean that there is 250 people online. But the "super servers" from the US and EU can hold 10x the number of players. So, their "standard" could be 2500 people online. And being on a US server during US prime time, this number seems pretty correct. 5+ instances of fleet with 200 minimum in each. Not to mention the time that there were more instances of DKaas on Harbinger then there were people on MDN pub fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebrynis Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 And *** how is pve/rp more closely aligned than pve/pvp. Actually, without going into anything else you were replying to, there is absolutely no difference between a PvE server an a RP server. We're talking strictly mechanics - there is no open-world PvP, and going from a RP to a PvE server would be unnoticeable, save that you would not have walls of Roleplay text from roleplayers in the Fleet or the Slippery Slopes (and even then, you might, depending on if they are member of a roleplay guild). PvP servers, by contrast, have the open-world PvP mechanic that the others lack. This is also not to say that there are no roleplayers on PvP servers, but they are not specifically suggested as such, and there are no 'RP-PvP' servers, so far as I'm aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scullzomben Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Actually, without going into anything else you were replying to, there is absolutely no difference between a PvE server an a RP server. We're talking strictly mechanics - there is no open-world PvP, and going from a RP to a PvE server would be unnoticeable, save that you would not have walls of Roleplay text from roleplayers in the Fleet or the Slippery Slopes (and even then, you might, depending on if they are member of a roleplay guild). PvP servers, by contrast, have the open-world PvP mechanic that the others lack. This is also not to say that there are no roleplayers on PvP servers, but they are not specifically suggested as such, and there are no 'RP-PvP' servers, so far as I'm aware. You are correct that the option for open world PvP mechanic exists, but I can guarantee you that it does not get used as much as anyone thinks it does. I ran in to my first opposing faction player last night for the first time in months. I just speeder'd straight past him. Though, he was a PT who decided to pull me back but he didn't fight, he just waved. I didn't appreciate this, so I force pushed him off the edge where the Rakghoul event was (near the willpower datacron). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claprica Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Actually, without going into anything else you were replying to, there is absolutely no difference between a PvE server an a RP server. We're talking strictly mechanics - there is no open-world PvP, and going from a RP to a PvE server would be unnoticeable, save that you would not have walls of Roleplay text from roleplayers in the Fleet or the Slippery Slopes (and even then, you might, depending on if they are member of a roleplay guild). PvP servers, by contrast, have the open-world PvP mechanic that the others lack. This is also not to say that there are no roleplayers on PvP servers, but they are not specifically suggested as such, and there are no 'RP-PvP' servers, so far as I'm aware. I was trying to infer that there is no noticeable difference between any of the servers atm, but your point stands. Also a RP server lends itself more to being a PVP server imo, as this suits the context better. I'm pretty sure Jedi wouldn't have just sit on their butt and smiled if a Sith walked past. RP is more than just the way you interact/chat with others. Edited December 7, 2012 by Claprica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpayday Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Gav Daragon Medium isn't the same as Light on the other 2 servers. I think it has the lowest population of all 3 servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sankalp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I think gav is bugged, alwasy says standard. Dalborra has started showing standard now and then. MDN is a graveyard. Same people that you see on forums you kill in pvp and spam on the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpayday Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It just went standard, there's 6 republic 50s on, 8 on republic fleet. 11 imp 50s, 16 on fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebrynis Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I was trying to infer that there is no noticeable difference between any of the servers atm, but your point stands. Also a RP server lends itself more to being a PVP server imo, as this suits the context better. I'm pretty sure Jedi wouldn't have just sit on their butt and smiled if a Sith walked past. RP is more than just the way you interact/chat with others. Point taken. Some hardcore roleplayers (I am not one) might throw up an argument, but it is undeniable that any one APAC server is hardly different from the other two at the moment. It's almost a surety that a consolidated server, regardless of the name it ended up with, would be a 'PvE' server (in my opinion) - Master Dar'Nala is, from what I gather, rather devoid of open-world PvP at the moment, and I can personally attest that roleplay on Gav Daragon is in the tank. I admit that roleplay wasn't my primary reason for selecting the server, but I am not averse to it...but these days, I don't bother. I doubt I'd notice any difference (character name issues aside) if there was a merge, and I imagine the same is true for our friends on Dalborra. And I'm guessing that MDN players would prefer more people to open-world PvP and no people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sankalp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Point taken. Some hardcore roleplayers (I am not one) might throw up an argument, but it is undeniable that any one APAC server is hardly different from the other two at the moment. It's almost a surety that a consolidated server, regardless of the name it ended up with, would be a 'PvE' server (in my opinion) - Master Dar'Nala is, from what I gather, rather devoid of open-world PvP at the moment, and I can personally attest that roleplay on Gav Daragon is in the tank. I admit that roleplay wasn't my primary reason for selecting the server, but I am not averse to it...but these days, I don't bother. I doubt I'd notice any difference (character name issues aside) if there was a merge, and I imagine the same is true for our friends on Dalborra. And I'm guessing that MDN players would prefer more people to open-world PvP and no people. spot on. No one does open world PVP. and with ilum coming, that problem will resolve itself. However, if they wait till then, MDN might be worse off than it is atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodlehaus Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Just noticed, this thread was created on or before October 20, 2012. That's almost a month and a half ago. You could've had 2 50s with that time on the US servers. Probably even 3, since you'll have shorter FP and WZ queues and people to do heroics with. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denpic Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Just noticed, this thread was created on or before October 20, 2012. That's almost a month and a half ago. You could've had 2 50s with that time on the US servers. Probably even 3, since you'll have shorter FP and WZ queues and people to do heroics with. Just saying Omg you sir are genius this is the answer to all our problems Thank you for showing us the way..... Its actually 3 months and yes we could re roll most have but we want the characters we have worked on for the last year transfered thank you for your informative input... Edited December 7, 2012 by denpic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sankalp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 you are too kind denpic. He prolly deserved my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairuakaha Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) /SIGNED The server transfer exercise for the U.S. servers took place many months ago. One would have thought rolling that out for the APAC servers wouldve been staggered out to perhaps a few months later. Yet, despite the mounting evidence which suggest a server merger / consolidation of servers will bring more pluses than minuses those of us who play this game from this part of the planet are still left wondering about whether this will even take place in the near term. In the mean time they will be mailing you fireworks to your nearest in-game post-box /facepalm Edited December 7, 2012 by wairuakaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakamp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Just noticed, this thread was created on or before October 20, 2012. That's almost a month and a half ago. You could've had 2 50s with that time on the US servers. Probably even 3, since you'll have shorter FP and WZ queues and people to do heroics with. Just saying rofl, u don't play at our primary time, and u think it as american's logic , hahahahaha. i will be very kindness to tell u, there is no batter situation in US server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esno Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Just noticed, this thread was created on or before October 20, 2012. That's almost a month and a half ago. You could've had 2 50s with that time on the US servers. Probably even 3, since you'll have shorter FP and WZ queues and people to do heroics with. Just saying OH HELL NO!! Took me ages to ages to get my main toon in full campaign/BH gear, Legacy 50 and Social 10. No way am i gonna reroll a new main toon on a different server, unless we get forcibly moved there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esno Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 /SIGNED In the mean time they will be mailing you fireworks to your nearest in-game post-box /facepalm Pls ask them to bend over so we can light em and mail them back to em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sankalp Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 made a pub guild yesterday with some main guildies. Did esseles with 2 f2pers who were stoked at all the things and watched every cutscene (OMG!!!) and kept saying things like "WOW is this a dungeoon amazing etc(was very very annoying but funny). one was lvl 12 without an advanced class Almost told them to reroll on dalborra as it would enhance their gameplay. hopefully they will find people to run other flashpoints with. Its gonna be a shame if people leave coz they have to spend 2 hrs looking for SM fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheezfriend Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Hey all!!! Keep the discussion going! Very quick video <2 Minutes showing how bad Master Dar'Nala is!!!! Wake up Bioware! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0FZtTYJiSg&feature=g-crec-u Watch it, comment, share it, reply to it, like it, subscribe etc!!! NEK MINNIT... 20 Minutes later on The Harbinger... comparison video during their OFF PEAK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lg1kSqzmns Thanks!!! <3 Chippy Edited December 7, 2012 by Cheezfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalShield Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hey all!!! Keep the discussion going! Very quick video <2 Minutes showing how bad Master Dar'Nala is!!!! Wake up Bioware! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0FZtTYJiSg&feature=g-crec-u Watch it, comment, share it, reply to it, like it, subscribe etc!!! NEK MINNIT... 20 Minutes later on The Harbinger... comparison video during their OFF PEAK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lg1kSqzmns Thanks!!! <3 Chippy Good videos. I really wish Bioware would give us an update on the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventidephoenix Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Bioware should be aware, just not caring to work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erishumlol Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 This is an absolute disgrace, this thread is still going and we have not heard anything for so long. Do we not matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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