Sharpiie Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 can someone link me their carnage spec, I would like to see what other people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosmos Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Well, I've been using this for Carnage - but keep in mind i don't PVP much anymore, though I'm bound to start up again sometime soon. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZhGMRRrbdGzZG.2 The reason I go for malice over the smash is because i DO use rupture, and the extra crit damage from those bleeds - is well, extra damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagil Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZuGMRRrrdGzZM.2 Difference is it generates a little more rage and has a ranged root ability with deadly throw. I don't use rupture, I try to generate fury fast then spam berserked massacre when not using gore>ravage>scream combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluvi Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 You shouldn't need Narrowed Hatred (3% hit buff). The tree has lots of additional + accuracy, and BM/War hero gear is swimming in it, shouldn't be an issue. I do 5/34/2, but I literally get every talent in Carnage EXCEPT for Narrowed Hatred for pvp, b/c it isn't needed. If your accuracy sucks, by all means get it. If you get over 100% though, that's all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagil Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) You shouldn't need Narrowed Hatred (3% hit buff). The tree has lots of additional + accuracy, and BM/War hero gear is swimming in it, shouldn't be an issue. I do 5/34/2, but I literally get every talent in Carnage EXCEPT for Narrowed Hatred for pvp, b/c it isn't needed. If your accuracy sucks, by all means get it. If you get over 100% though, that's all you need. You do need it once you start ripping accuracy mods and replacing with power surge mods. If you power stack every possible WH item in your inventory and take Narrowed Hatred, you still end up with 99.5% accuracy. Edited July 5, 2012 by Jagil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yescek Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 You do need it once you start ripping accuracy mods and replacing with power surge mods. If you power stack every possible WH item in your inventory and take Narrowed Hatred, you still end up with 99.5% accuracy. For Carnage though, you want to be hitting 105% minimum. The reason for it is because you'd be absolutely SHOCKED at how much DPS we lose in offhand strikes. Not to mention that it's always frustrating to see someone defend half the ataru strikes when you Berserk-Massacre spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinnedWill Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 For Carnage though, you want to be hitting 105% minimum. The reason for it is because you'd be absolutely SHOCKED at how much DPS we lose in offhand strikes. Not to mention that it's always frustrating to see someone defend half the ataru strikes when you Berserk-Massacre spam. ^^ So true - and you should have ~5 accuracy augments once you're in WH gear (you lose a LOT of accuracy switching from BM gear over to WH gear). Ataru form (on its own) should have more than 3% accuracy bonus, IMO (maybe give us some extra accuracy to it in addition to the passive movement speed bonus from defensive forms talent). Power/crit/surge stacking (after remodding WH gear) certainly puts force scream's gore-procced crit damage values in the mid-to-high 4k's and will certainly get you 5k+ damage from the 3rd tick of a gore-proced ravage, but gore-procced ravage will get interrupted 99% of the time against any decent team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagil Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 For Carnage though, you want to be hitting 105% minimum. The reason for it is because you'd be absolutely SHOCKED at how much DPS we lose in offhand strikes. Not to mention that it's always frustrating to see someone defend half the ataru strikes when you Berserk-Massacre spam. You wouldn't want to completely stack power items or your crit chance would go right down as well. I'm personally working on a more balanced loadout which still requires Narrowed Hatred to achieve its stats. Replacing the following slots with adept enhancements or deft mods... chest enh and mod gloves mod legs enh boots mod both sabers mod It'll end up with around 30% crit, 75% crit dam, 103% accuracy, 150pts more bonus damage over straight WH which is significant when coefficients are applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yescek Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Here, this is pretty much the de facto spec for all carnage marauder's who don't suck http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZGrMRRrrdGzZM.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thures Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Here, this is pretty much the de facto spec for all carnage marauder's who don't suck http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZGrMRRrrdGzZM.2 Way to go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawelc Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Do you guys honestly think -3 second cd on a focus builder is a good use of points? I never find myself short on resources, and feel those points are better used elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenhb Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I know this is a carnage thread, but how much acc is needed for rage pvp? I want to get rid of narrowed hatred as well... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drator Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Here, this is pretty much the de facto spec for all carnage marauder's who don't suck http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZGrMRRrrdGzZM.2 It depends on whether you're talking pve or pvp. For pvp, those points in narrowed hatred are much better off in stagger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It depends on whether you're talking pve or pvp. For pvp, those points in narrowed hatred are much better off in stagger. I agree. You can get all the acc you need from your gear and still stack other stats, also can get 1% acc from having a companion at max affection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyuplee Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Hey, a marauder here. I'm just wondering, what kind of stats are people running with? Atm, I'm running with 34.08 crit chance 100.34 accuracy 77.95 surge with exotech stim I have 1066 damage pri 579 bonus damage I might replace the crit + surge mods with a few accuracy + crit mods. Do you guys think I should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishpierre Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Do you guys honestly think -3 second cd on a focus builder is a good use of points? I never find myself short on resources, and feel those points are better used elsewhere. I never understood the point of taking it either. I never have a problem with activating Predation within fights, especially in PVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael_Peres Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I using this: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#1000cZGGMRRrMdGzZG.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drator Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I using this: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#1000cZGGMRRrMdGzZG.2 Why would you put points into malice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael_Peres Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why would you put points into malice? To increase Force Critical Chance. Marauders don't have only force scream as force attacks and also sometimes you have to use it when blood frenzy is not rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drator Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) To increase Force Critical Chance. Marauders don't have only force scream as force attacks and also sometimes you have to use it when blood frenzy is not rolling. What, besides force scream and part of rupture's damage, is a force attack that you'd use regularly as carnage? And no, you don't ever HAVE to use force scream when it is not going to be an auto crit. Edited July 31, 2012 by Drator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uchoo Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bcZhrrRRrrdGzZM.2 I still put some points in Narrowed Hatred. When you play Carnage, you get pretty used to being able to roast tanks really fast. I like it for when that Tankassin hits Deflection. Cloak of Carnage is really good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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