Drudenfusz Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I wouldn't mind should SWTOR go free to play or buy to play... as long as they do nothing stupid then (like making it pay to win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunkShizzle Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) The "casuals" may be gone, and now are the rest of us sitting around in dead servers running the same content over and over, provided we can assemble a group to do it. this game is a waste of time if your not a casual anyway Edited May 8, 2012 by CrunkShizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmicron Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Subscription + microtransaction hybrid doesn't work. Examples: DCUO and EQ2 Yes it does. Example: LOTRO EQ2 is a success in its F2P Freeport server - it is the most populated server and has been since F2P launched. LOTRO did it the right way - $15 / month subscribers get the entire experience like normal - nothing changed. Those that went F2P and don't want to pay anything can get stuff unlocked for free by grinding out points (though naturally it is inefficient). I played both as they went through the F2P transition and LOTRO kept me playing long after they switched. Most of the F2P people never got out of the Bree area (20+). They also had weekends and sales from time to time that allowed F2P people to purchase new areas for 75% off. LOTRO did it right. But this is EA (and this is the only EA game I play these days since the Spore fiasco), so who knows how bad they'll screw it up and make Bioware look bad. But I guarantee you it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valperion Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 It seems EA has abandoned "swtor", what a big surprise. Could I expect "swtor free 2 play" by the end of summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmicron Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Take LOTRO for instance. You have to subscribe to be able to carry gold, get a full inventory, use the AH, etc. Then on top of that, you wind up having to buy crap through the MT just to stay competitive. No, you don't. It's all fluff except for mounts, and those are just shortcuts. In no way is LOTRO "pay to win" or "pay to be competitive". It is all fluff gear and potions, which can also be made in-game and are purchasable at the auction house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dench Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 this game is a waste of time if your not a casual anyway and the dead server problem could be fixed,but i doubt bioware will conjure up a solution to fix it.free transfers are going to do nothing but make the game have like 3 servers worth rolling on,and who wants to waste 15 bucks a month on a mmo with 3 servers,i know i dont I 100% agree that transfers alone aren't the fix, and will potentially make the problem worse for a lot of people. We need focused merges followed by a heavy amount of server closings. I don't know the numbers like BW does, but I would like to see as many closed as possible, and then new ones opened as needed if thats the case. Rough uneducated guesstimate? close half of the North American servers. maybe even 60% Bioware, lets bring the MMO back into this game, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erstok Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) You got to level 30 You must pay 1500000 ToR points to increase your level cap to 31 f2p, p2w etc etc is all garbage. Like DLC. It's a bs exscuse to nickle and dime people on content already in the game. Edited May 8, 2012 by Erstok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothermonterr Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Some dude was saying gw2 was gona be pay to win, juding form this conference call, swtor will be ahead in the curve. l0l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 When discussing the importance of TOR, put upcoming SimCity title ahead in importance. No surprise there (even though it seems that quite a few here seem to be surprised). EA is just the publisher for SWTOR, the game is running now, BioWare gets money from the subs, so why should EA put too much thought now into SWTOR when they have to think about upcoming games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icysunx Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 EA owns 100 percent of Bioware, they are the same corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahana Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 When discussing the importance of TOR, put upcoming SimCity title ahead in importance You do realize how many women would play this type of game vs madden football or MMO's right? What is the largest growing demographic playing video games.. women. According to the Entertainment Software Association’s (ESA) 2011 Essential Facts About the Computer and Video Game Industry, 72 percent of American households now play video games. The average gamer is 37 years old and has been playing for 12 years. Industry research reveals some other interesting demographic facts about gamers: Women – Forty-two percent of all players are women and women over 18 years of age are one of the industry’s fastest growing demographics. Today, adult women represent a greater portion of the game-playing population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothermonterr Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 the topics alone you see in the general boards of this forum is enough to turn away gamers, this is a clear sign of unrest among players. If there's a smoke there's a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I find your lack of faith in The Sims disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbozo Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 How many games does EA publish? The Sims has a huge following, so do all the sports games EA pumps out every year. This was an EA investor call, not a Bioware one. Yes, SWTOR is not going to the the only thing they care about. As an small time investor myself, I can assure you I did not buy EA stock just because of SWTOR. EA need to focus on makeing money, the more they make, the more the can put to Bioware, the more Bioware can make SWTOR better. And being on the top 10 list of a huge company like EA isn't something to shake a stick at, especially with this being their fisr MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadokaoh Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 How many games does EA publish? The Sims has a huge following, so do all the sports games EA pumps out every year. This was an EA investor call, not a Bioware one. Yes, SWTOR is not going to the the only thing they care about. As an small time investor myself, I can assure you I did not buy EA stock just because of SWTOR. EA need to focus on makeing money, the more they make, the more the can put to Bioware, the more Bioware can make SWTOR better. And being on the top 10 list of a huge company like EA isn't something to shake a stick at, especially with this being their fisr MMO. 28 games last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzytoad Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'd like to see a Dev response to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Vortex Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The moment this game goes Free to play is the moment I uninstall and go back to Rift or Wow. I have no desire to have to pay £20 to unlock a new operation or quest line. An exaggeration I know but you get my point. I'd take pandas over micro transactions any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazirus- Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well the writing is on the wall. They want to increase micro transactions since they are making a KILLING on them in other areas. They want to make more of their games F2p... Not hard to predict the future of SWTOR. Considering that we've seen what happened with SWG in the sense that LucasArts pretty much won't allow a F2P model, I'd say that you're correct in saying that it isn't hard to predict the future of SW:TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDiggy Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Where is this "high demand for achievements" coming from? Certainly not on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geawiel Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'm trying to figure out why everyone here seems so surprised at their game focuses. The other titles are proven money makers for them. Long run money makers as well. TOR is a new venture that, for right now, is a little shaky. Me personally, if they do a F2P or sub option model, I'm going to stay. Pure F2P would likely have me unsub. I'd probably go Secret World. I honestly don't see them just dropping TOR though or, changing the sub model. Server mergers will help both give us a better picture of how many are still aboard and help keep more players. They need to roll them out quick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 i wonder if swtor will open in China, the gigantic mmo market.. WoW reach 10million subs because they open their mmo in china and korea, region locked. their us and eur subsciriber only reach 2 million- 4million.. blizzard admits it in their page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokivoid Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Thats starting to change now, a few titles look interesting - tribes ascend, blacklight retribution, mechwarrior online, hawken. Although I agree with you, I still think subscription games are better and cheaper in the long run. Tribes ascended is just standard shooter with a match making chat room not a MMO. Every title you mentioned follows the same aspect. These games are vary cheap to pump out as not much modification is required to the core FPS engine they use. They have been the most common F2P game type on the market for the past ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I don't understand how you can say casuals unsubscribed. its the most casual friendly game ever except for the lack of a LFG. The raids are easy and the PvP is dull and uninspiring. Hardcores want no part of it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtim Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Facebook is one of our most important partners This can't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akaela Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Casuals unsubscribed? Most of my guild did, and they weren't casual. I will be unsubbing later tonight, and I wasn't casual (5+ hours every night minimum). Sim City above TOR? Ouch.. Good luck with EA guys, I wont be going near another MMO that has their finger in it's pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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