Vodalus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can be a crafter and not a merchant. Just saying... Sure, you can. But the nature of the interdependent material sources, the orange schematic modable item system, and the "made by" tag on items would suggest that being a merchant is a part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethenos Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 50 is a PAINFULLY lot limit to those of us who actually spend time on the GTN. Very uncool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriox Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I think much will improve when the WOW'er tourists go back to WOW. Don't hate on a good game that took a ridiculous amount of resources to make real because it isn't the game you are used to playing with the community you are used to playing with. I can see the improvements over the beta weekends and it is obvious BW listened to its customer base. This is nonsense, there are plenty of different aspects to the game that I am enjoying. The GTN interface is not 'different', it's vastly inferior and benefits no one in its current state. This is not supposed to be about WoW vs. Tor, it's about good game design and how we can let Bioware (and the masses of 'different' people on this forum) know about it. Edited December 17, 2011 by Oriox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azudelphi Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Sure, you can. But the nature of the interdependent material sources, the orange schematic modable item system, and the "made by" tag on items would suggest that being a merchant is a part of the plan. Right, I am just saying that selling *each* item you make or gather is probably not part of the master plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajikMyst Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Oh, and the limited locations of the GTN don't help, since people are less likely to just browse the GTN. Just about every MMO has limited locations of the AH or GTN in this case.. WOW had had them in the capital cities only.. Not including the goblin AH.. Of course we have the Hutt Cartel Trade Network on Nar Shaddaa.. How is this any different?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikonnen Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Are you joking? In WoW it was normal to have hundreds even thousands of auctions up at one time. Yeah, and that worked well for WoW's economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriox Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Yeah, and that worked well for WoW's economy. It did work well, as I have already explained. At any point you could go to the AH and get anything you wanted for a relatively cheap price. I would know, I played that game from Classic to Cata and at no point did I think that there was a problem with that AH system. If I wanted to list 500 auctions at a time I could do that. If I wanted to buy up a lot of things for crafting or leveling a profession, I could do that too. This was good game design, allowing the players more freedom to do as they pleased benefited everyone. Not everything in WoW was great, but they did many things well. Bioware should at least aspire to that level. Edited December 17, 2011 by Oriox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilim Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Wooohooo, just got to list 8 more things. You don't make money in your storerooms! Let me put my stuff out for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Just about every MMO has limited locations of the AH or GTN in this case.. WOW had had them in the capital cities only.. Not including the goblin AH.. Of course we have the Hutt Cartel Trade Network on Nar Shaddaa.. How is this any different?? So, how many load screens do you need to sit through in order to get to an AH in WoW? Even from the most remote location, there is a single load screen (going through a portal). This isn't WoW. This isn't a huge, continuous world split into 4 pieces. This is double-digit separate planets that can't even be directly traveled to; you have to load your ship then load the planet. It's nowhere near comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zycanus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 "AH heroes" do not ruin server economies, they make server economies. Without those people there would be no cheap and easily accessible goods. You are not trying to make a server economy. You are simply trying to get wealthy faster. I do not begrudge you playing the GTN because a lot of people enjoy that portion of the game. I do have an issue with pages of single items for sale. Either stack your items or just realize you will go a little slower 1 item at a time. A 50 item limit is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arithius Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The attitude of "WoW had it therefore it sucks and should never be allowed here" is pretty closed minded and frankly, a bit ridiculous. the problem goes both ways, its way too common (this thread is an example) of 'WoW did this so SWTOR should' DAoC had a good economy, and for ages there was no 'AH' style selling. then you had venders at your house and there was a 20 or 30 item limit (cant remember the amount) so that limited even multiple toons selling as each needed a house. games are different, work different ways, if you want it to just do what wow did and anything else is a fail, then just go play wow. if you want a change (as i do, i HATE WoW, honestly it bored me to tears) then try and find a new way to make your credits, adept what you want with the new limitations, think of this as 'Hard Mode' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 It did work well, as I have already explained. At any point you could go to the AH and get anything you wanted for a relatively cheap price. define cheap... because im getting the sinking feeling you aint looking to sell items cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbral Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Are you joking? In WoW it was normal to have hundreds even thousands of auctions up at one time.... and in WoW too often people filled the pages with hundreds of singles just to make it a pain for people to buy bulk. Thus ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriox Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 define cheap... because im getting the sinking feeling you aint looking to sell items cheap. I sell items at whatever price people are willing to pay for them. If a competitor wants to undercut me that only benefits you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I sell items at whatever price people are willing to pay for them. If a competitor wants to undercut me that only benefits you. guess your gonna have to sell things a little more responsibly in this game rather than what you did in the "other" one. i can see the devs giving 75 slots MAX to sell but no more than that... so good luck on your crusade. /Thread Edited December 17, 2011 by Darth_Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutherus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think 50 helps prevent monopolizing. Prevents people from buying an entire market and relisting everything at a higher price. Good move on BW's part I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think 50 helps prevent monopolizing. Prevents people from buying an entire market and relisting everything at a higher price. Good move on BW's part I think. ^This (hands him a +1 cookie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriox Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) guess your gonna have to sell things a little more responsibly in this game rather than what you did in the "other" one. i can see the devs giving 75 slots MAX to sell but no more than that... so good luck on your crusade. /Thread You have contributed nothing to this thread so don't say "/thread" when you really have no valuable input here. Edited December 17, 2011 by Oriox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti_Ninja Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Are you joking? In WoW it was normal to have hundreds even thousands of auctions up at one time. No, it's not ''normal''. You are exploiting the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) You have contributed nothing to this thread so don't say "/thread" when you really have no valuable input here. try reading my earlier posts that you seemed to just browes over becasue they didnt suit your argument. i contributed dont worry about that. Now i lay this thread to rest it will be missed... ok not really Edited December 17, 2011 by Darth_Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutherus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 ^This (hands him a +1 cookie) Yum! (or should I sell it? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Yum! (or should I sell it? ) break it up in to crumbs and sell the crumbs one at a time. to get a biiigger profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think 50 helps prevent monopolizing. Prevents people from buying an entire market and relisting everything at a higher price. Good move on BW's part I think. I'm not so sure you understand the term monopolizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Fu Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I'm not so sure you understand the term monopolizing. Ok so what DOES monopolizing mean?.... controling the market is not the proper definition i guess. Edited December 17, 2011 by Darth_Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJSY Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) I like to work auction/trades in games to make myself more cash, who wouldn't?I mean... what kind of person complains at the ability to make cash?Oh that's right, people who aren't good at it. The entire forums are filled with people who don't want certain game system because they simple are bad at it and know others would do better with the option. In this case, the potential to make more cash. Thing is, I made alts and parked them by the GTN/Mail box.50 slots? Nope.. 250. Edited December 17, 2011 by ChrisJSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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