tiguelinus Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Not only you nerf sorceror's to the point to be pointtless to play on pvp, but you had to increase damage to trooper's and bounty hunter. Aree you guys out of your minds?, sorceror's dots are useless and the damage output is not a match against any class anymore. Why don't you just delete the class if you hate it so much rather than make it to useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaearth Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Because if they deleted Sorc/Sage, Operative/Scoundrel DPS would be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magisch Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Ehm im playing a consular on Balance, which is the Equivalent of an Madness sorcerer and Im only noticing that nothing but Fire-Powertech is hard to kill in 1v1. Let alone in situations where you can cast freee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiguelinus Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 Ehm im playing a consular on Balance, which is the Equivalent of an Madness sorcerer and Im only noticing that nothing but Fire-Powertech is hard to kill in 1v1. Let alone in situations where you can cast freee Have you been pvping lately?, sentinels/marauders are unstoppable not only they are doing insane damage, but they can cloak any time they are about to be killed, and now troopers/bounty hunters got more damage, how do you defend against that?. What good is a class if it cannot compete in combat against the rest of tthe classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilDrM Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Are you insane? they nerfed Trooper/Bounty Hunters last patch. I know plenty of good Sorcerers. Edited April 19, 2012 by Notannos rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiguelinus Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Are you insane? they nerfed Trooper/Bounty Hunters last patch. Learn to play your class, I know plenty of good Sorcerers. I'm not one of your low lvl players. i'm a full lvl 50 sorceror since the game was released. I'm one of the few good enough in my server that kknows how to play my class and because I know how it works I can talk about. Edited April 19, 2012 by Notannos rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magisch Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Have you been pvping lately?, sentinels/marauders are unstoppable not only they are doing insane damage, but they can cloak any time they are about to be killed, and now troopers/bounty hunters got more damage, how do you defend against that?. What good is a class if it cannot compete in combat against the rest of tthe classes? Slow is your best friend. Also, their insane Damage mostly comes from Ravage, and there comes the mind snap. when they cloak I speed away and wait until its expired. You can slow them to hell, even when they spec into 2 Jumps. You can also simply outdamage Bounty/Trooper since they dont really have defense. Also, interrupt their casts. Mind snap has no Global Cooldown and no cost, take advantage of that. sincely, Edited April 19, 2012 by Parali rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iboga Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'm not one of your low lvl players. i'm a full lvl 50 sorceror since the game was released. I'm one of the few good enough in my server that kknows how to play my class and because I know how it works I can talk about. Honestly, the good Sorcs and Sages are still doing extremely well... But now, the bad ones who thought they were good are just extremely obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zellata Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Slow is your best friend. Also, their insane Damage mostly comes from Ravage, and there comes the mind snap. when they cloak I speed away and wait until its expired. You can slow them to hell, even when they spec into 2 Jumps. One problem with that idea - they can slow you too, so after all is said and done both toons still move at the same speed. It might work against a very bad marauder, but any decent one will have no problems staying in melee range. Edited April 19, 2012 by Parali bad quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magisch Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 One problem with that idea - they can slow you too, so after all is said and done both toons still move at the same speed. It might work against a very bad marauder, but any decent one will have no problems staying in melee range. While That Might be true, you can still outdps an Marauder if you instantly interrupt his Ravage, and put him in Force Lift while he uses his defensive cooldowns. (Most Marauders waste CC break into your stun, so this shouldnt be an issue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelenan Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Not only you nerf sorceror's to the point to be pointtless to play on pvp, but you had to increase damage to trooper's and bounty hunter. Aree you guys out of your minds?, sorceror's dots are useless and the damage output is not a match against any class anymore. Why don't you just delete the class if you hate it so much rather than make it to useless. BH Got nerfed not buffed get your facts straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midyir Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Not only you nerf sorceror's to the point to be pointtless to play on pvp, but you had to increase damage to trooper's and bounty hunter. Aree you guys out of your minds?, sorceror's dots are useless and the damage output is not a match against any class anymore. Why don't you just delete the class if you hate it so much rather than make it to useless. L2P Ever heard of a glass cannon? That is what we are. Yes, we are even more squishy than before 1.2 but our (mine anyway, as a long time pvp sorc) damage is somewhere between high and OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaranok Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Honestly, the good Sorcs and Sages are still doing extremely well... But now, the bad ones who thought they were good are just extremely obvious... Thumbs up for your post simply for the massive truth it holds Edited April 19, 2012 by Zaranok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 While That Might be true, you can still outdps an Marauder if you instantly interrupt his Ravage, and put him in Force Lift while he uses his defensive cooldowns. (Most Marauders waste CC break into your stun, so this shouldnt be an issue) You canty interupt ravage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midyir Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) BH Got nerfed not buffed get your facts straight They still hurt but they did not get buffed... Edited April 19, 2012 by Midyir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaranok Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 You canty interupt ravage. All sorts of stuns, pushbacks interrupts it so yes you can interrupt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lygas Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 While That Might be true, you can still outdps an Marauder if you instantly interrupt his Ravage, and put him in Force Lift while he uses his defensive cooldowns. (Most Marauders waste CC break into your stun, so this shouldnt be an issue) Unfortunately, Ravage can no longer be interrupted, baseline. What you're saying is still true, but you'll have to go about it a different way, albeit through stuns or a knockback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magisch Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 You canty interupt ravage. Yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenrik Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Remember when people called this game "Sorc wars" and said the ideal team was 8 sorcs? That they were BW's "pet class", and that the devs "created all the other classes around the sorc"? I remember hearing stuff like that all the time. Now apparently BW hates sorcs and wants to just delete them. Edited April 19, 2012 by Stenrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErisktheRed Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Have you been pvping lately?, sentinels/marauders are unstoppable not only they are doing insane damage, but they can cloak any time they are about to be killed, and now troopers/bounty hunters got more damage, how do you defend against that?. What good is a class if it cannot compete in combat against the rest of tthe classes? They're not unstoppable... They could stealth before 1.2 and could do crazy dmg before 1.2. NOTHING changed that way - a 2 second increase to stealth only. Lol I don't get why ppl suddenly now complain... there's still more bad Marauders/Sents than good ones, it's not a grav round spam class still takes skill. Seriously over dramatized. Sents weren't buffed THAT much where they suddenly became the most OP class ever which some players think. They just got noticed more and ppl rolling them and now FOTM in terms of ppl complaining. Ever go up against an Assassin that's good/spec'd properly... wayyyy more survivability and hard to get kill that a Sent/Mara is just a lot less play that AC don't get the QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovaos Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) Just another dumb thread. When I'm specced Balance I'm still topping the charts. It sucks to get any ability nerfed, but come on lets be honest with ourselves. Maras/Sents received too much love and it's obvious when anyone steps into a WZ. In no way are Sorcs/Sages worthless. Edited April 19, 2012 by Kovaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiell Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Just another dumb thread. When I'm specced Balance I'm still topping the charts. It sucks to get any ability nerfed, but come on lets be honest with ourselves. Maras/Sents received too much love and it's obvious when anyone steps into a WZ. In no way are Sorcs/Sages worthless. Sents/ Maras received one buff and minor tweaks and that is too much love? They've remained virtually unchanged, yet now all of a sudden they are the FOTM? You people are crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notannos Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Hello everyone! We appreciate feedback, both positive and negative. However, we do ask that that feedback is constructive. This post goes into more detail about what we're looking for in feedback and how to make sure your feedback is constructive and helpful. With that in mind, we're going to go ahead and close the thread. If you have suggestions for the game, we have a forum for specific suggestions, the Suggestion Box. We encourage you to post your suggestions there! You may also be interested in adding thoughts to the discussion regarding sorcerer nerfs here: Thinking Out Loud: Sorc Nerf 1.2 Thank you for understanding and helping us make sure that the forums are as constructive and helpful as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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