atreyuz Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Allowed inside Warzones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzr Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Yeah. Finish Ch.2 on all 4 archtypes and you'll have all 4 buffs on whatever character you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Yeah. Finish Ch.2 on all 4 archtypes and you'll have all 4 buffs on whatever character you play. It's a damn, bad joke that this is allowed in Warzones. Edited April 14, 2012 by atreyuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Up. I need to know pvpers what think about this. Edited April 14, 2012 by atreyuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee-Jay Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) It's a damn, bad joke that this is allowed in Warzones. Why would this be a big deal in any case? Never heard of anyone being brought to a warzone solely because of their buff. Edited April 14, 2012 by Dee-Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me_unknown Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Up. I need to know pvpers what think about this. i like it as my class buff is totally useless. nice to get some of the usefull ones even if my teammates are not buffing again during the match (which mostly is the case sadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Why would this be a big deal in any case? Never heard of anyone being brought to a warzone solely because of their buff. because when you die in a WZ you RARELY get another full rebuff in most WZs. And this basically grants the player with 3 alts a full rebuff every damn time he dies. It shouldnt be allowed in Warzones in my opinion. If you want other classes buffs you should ask your teammates to do it. running around with a perma : 5%more dmg 5%hp 10% dmg reduction from internal/elemental - 5% more stats 5%crit it's an huge advantage. Since as I have already said you RARELY get a full rebuff from random teammates. all the legacy features are pve only..why did they allow this one in pvp. Edited April 14, 2012 by atreyuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanEclipse Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Why would this be a big deal in any case? Never heard of anyone being brought to a warzone solely because of their buff. play with the terrible pug pubs on my server and watch how nobody rebuffs at spawn even when you ask nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darne Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 because when you die in a WZ you RARELY get another full rebuff in most WZs. And this basically grants the player with 3 alts a full rebuff every damn time he dies. It shouldnt be allowed in Warzones in my opinion. If you want other classes buffs you should ask your teammates to do it. running around with a perma : 5%more dmg 5%hp 10% dmg reduction from internal/elemental - 5% more stats 5%crit it's an huge advantage. Since as I have already said you RARELY get a full rebuff from random teammates. all the legacy features are pve only..why did they allow this one in pvp. spot on post. pvp is dead to me in this game. it's like BW only knows how to RP. the only things that legacy does correctly is for RPers. sadly, the rest of us just get annoyed. seems silly that this is the one thing that is allowed in pvp, considering you never get buffs after the initial spawn. got a free month, but doubt i will even stick around to try it. unsubbed. dont get me wrong, i didnt unsub just because of this, but this is one of many things that lead me to make that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessik Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Up. I need to know pvpers what think about this. valor 76 sniper... i play only my 1 toon... i only get my 1 buff.... i'm ok with people getting the other buffs if they spent time to get them... after i get my war hero gear (i'm sure it'll take a month or two), maybe i'll grind up another alt... /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 play with the terrible pug pubs on my server and watch how nobody rebuffs at spawn even when you ask nicely. So true, so true. Some are +60 in valor and they still look at us as if they don't understand what "buff, plz" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japorms Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 whats the problem? maybe lazy selfish players who cries anytime his opponent has any advantage. its available to anyone, and getting to class quest chapter 2 is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) whats the problem? maybe lazy selfish players who cries anytime his opponent has any advantage. its available to anyone, and getting to class quest chapter 2 is easy. it's not easy, it's not hard. It's something PvPers really didnt need. It's a fine feature from legacy, but let it stick to the PVE part of the game. Leave it out of warzones, it doesnt belong there. You want all the buffs? Good, you should depend on your PvP teamates for a full rebuff, not grind 3 alts just so you can rebuff yourself. But I guess the other poster have it right. Why the hell am I even bothering talking about PvP in this game... Edited April 14, 2012 by atreyuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessik Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 in addition, say you have an alt that is cybertech, while your main is biochem... you use your alt to craft grenades, and you send them to your main your main gets the benefit of grenades and re useable stims... should that not be allowed either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werefox Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) I have 2 level 50's. I'm planning on playing the other classes to 40 for the buff. You can too. It's not an "unfair" advantage. You have to work for it if you want it. Edited April 14, 2012 by Werefox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepilk Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Does it provide all the extra buffs to your groupmates as well? or Just yourself? Personally I dont think its a big deal. Im used to fighting people with most if not all the buffs on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darne Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 whats the problem? maybe lazy selfish players who cries anytime his opponent has any advantage. its available to anyone, and getting to class quest chapter 2 is easy. they are forcing us to roll alts (or purchase it... im assuming you can purchase as i havent looked yet) to get it. everything about legacy is an alt grind. for us that dont enjoy having every slot filled with pointless alts, it becomes frustrating. back to the purchasing things from legacy though, considering losing WZs no longer gives you credits, this is going to be a ***** to buy anything when pvping was your source of income. legacy things are expensive. when im making credits only when i win (even if i assume 50:50 win/loss), thats going to take much longer than if i were out there grinding dailies. its like they hate pvp or something... i know im probably alone in thinking this these days, but to me, this feels like a lazy way in "persuading" the player to play. similar to achievements/trophies on the consoles. were games boring before we had those? no. did we all play super mario bros multiple times without having to have some silly title for it on our gamertag? yes. why is it that devs these days look at these cheap "rewards" to extend game play instead of just making the game play fun to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Rammstein Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 They make it so that you need 4 classes in the 40 range to complete act 2 and then you need to get all the datacrons on your character and then you need to buy orange augment gear because in purple you will be gimped...it's just one thing after the next just to keep your base stats in line with others. People say "oh well they are only minor stat boosts" but when you add up all those buffs, datacrons, augments you have someone who will have a major advantage in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darne Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 in addition, say you have an alt that is cybertech, while your main is biochem... you use your alt to craft grenades, and you send them to your main your main gets the benefit of grenades and re useable stims... should that not be allowed either? if i understand the system as it is, i would argue that is dumb as well, yes. dont they force you to have a 400 biochem to use the reusable stuff from biochem? why dont they force the 400 on cyber to use the reusable grenades then too? if youre talking about consumable versions of those things then thats ok as anyone can use and buy them. that actually promotes an economy, which this game lacks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEinhorn Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 waaaa! my teammates wont ever buff me, it never happens in these **** groups waaaa! oh what? now i can get all the buffs if i want? well that's just unfair! waaaaaaa! i quit! waaaaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMKSED Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 How's it any different if you get into a WZ and don't have a class there to give you a buff but the other team does? Stupid thing to argue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperI Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'd rather PvP where everyone always has all class buffs instead of a game where you start out with buffs and then lose them part way into the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oMGitsree Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Yes I have all 4 buffs so yes... it works in warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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