Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 "Warzones will no longer shutdown early due to population imbalance." This ENDS Solo queueing. No one is going to solo queue to be FORCED to play out a whole game 5 v 8. Please remove this change ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelodicSixNine Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I will still solo queue. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. However I don't like the change, because I never leave warzones. It will be painful experience sometimes. Edited April 12, 2012 by MelodicSixNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDubstep Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I will still solo queue. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. However I don't like the change, because I never leave warzones. It will be painful experience sometimes. I don't leave WZs either but if 5 v 8s or worse becomes a common occurrence I certainly will. Two days ago on Alderaan I was in a 7 v 8 with one guy on our team (level 12 Marauder who'da guessed?) stood in one spot jumping up and down the whole time. Because of that it was actually a 6 v 8 and the game was actually very, very close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnshoppe Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 you can leave now without getting a deserter debuff. This will only be a problem in ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 you can leave now without getting a deserter debuff. This will only be a problem in ranked. Quitting a wz is not a "design benefit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustychild Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Leaving wz will be come common play now with no shut down. I see a lot of players leaving now even with full team if there side is loosing. I can only bet those same players will be bailing even faster now. I meen for goodness sakes who wants to waist their time being the kill count for an uneven match or stand far away because there is no chance of fighting let alone winning any thing. Stupid move. Thats my 2 credits worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeswed Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 it's especially devastating for lower pop servers... I don't really like the changes to the commendation system either. Bad changes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxNemhauser Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 i think this only affects low population server my server has healthy population and i haven't seen a warzone shutdown due to players leaving that means it should not affect me now however if for some reason people start leaving warzone - this won't affect me either as i will just leave that warzone as well and it will eventually be 0 vs 8 (sucks for those 8 if they want to play, but at least they get a win) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Santa Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 They actually implemented this (already uninstalled the game so i can't see for myself)? Wow. I guess any game with Star-Wars in the name is destined to have a single update that becomes infamous in the history of MMO's for destroying the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I don't see a problem here. unless your population is so small you can barely sustain a WZ to begin with. I don't believe it will affects Q's though ... people want their comms, even if they are getting roflstomped. Edited April 12, 2012 by Obtena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheg Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Solo queuing = commendations, win or lose. Commendations = gear since there's no more stupid RNG tokens. Gear = pvp progression. I fail to see the problem. Also, no one is forcing you to stay. The deserter debuff is only for ranked warzones, which were removed from this patch. Again, I fail to see the problem. Edited April 12, 2012 by Kheg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Solo queuing = commendations, win or lose. Commendations = gear since there's no more stupid RNG tokens. Gear = pvp progression. I fail to see the problem. False. Solo queueing = 5 v 8. 5 v 8 = no medals gained before match ends. no medals = no valor, no comms, no credits. No rewards = huge faction imbalance = SWTOR out of business in 30 days or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheg Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 False. Solo queueing = 5 v 8. 5 v 8 = no medals gained before match ends. no medals = no valor, no comms, no credits. No rewards = huge faction imbalance = SWTOR out of business in 30 days or less. Solo queuing != 5v8. 5v8 happens because several people ignored the warzone queue they queued for. If you're not getting ANY medals, even in a 5v8, you're doing it wrong. Then again, the opposing faction isn't going to get any medals either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 False. Solo queueing = 5 v 8. 5 v 8 = no medals gained before match ends. This is the problem, your stuck being farmed. You can't even afk in the spawn your forced out kicking and screaming into the waiting arms of a battlemaster premade where you last about 2 seconds. Had this happen on Alderran the other day, some of the imps had actually pulled themselves up into our spawn, get off the speeder and your insta-dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDruidSS Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Boy, sounds like a sad day. No auto-shutdown, granted on my server it RARELY EVER shut down before people would fill it up. The no deserter debuff is more of a slap in the face because their whole purpose was to put a debuff on rated, but rated got canned so they just left it out completely.. it would be nice if they would have put the deserter debuff in at least. Then supposedly BM didn't get updated even if you had unmodded gear.... Now you know why they didn't release rated... if all these basic things got jacked then just imagine what rated must have been like to actually get yanked hours before patch release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDruidSS Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 This is the problem, your stuck being farmed. You can't even afk in the spawn your forced out kicking and screaming into the waiting arms of a battlemaster premade where you last about 2 seconds. Had this happen on Alderran the other day, some of the imps had actually pulled themselves up into our spawn, get off the speeder and your insta-dead. You are insta-gibbed if you cross the top of the platform. There is a ledge with about a foot wide area that is safe... if you cross that you are instantly killed on enemy platforms. If they are waiting under the platform, well that is just good old fashion farming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Solo queuing != 5v8. 5v8 happens because several people ignored the warzone queue they queued for. If you're not getting ANY medals, even in a 5v8, you're doing it wrong. Then again, the opposing faction isn't going to get any medals either. 1. Solo queuing is the only way to get 5 v 8. If you queue a group of 8 (which was the plan for 1.2 and got yanked), you wont have afks/ignore pop. 2. In 1.2, unlike previously, its a given you will get 0 medals if you are 5 v 8. This is different from pre-1.2. So, we're not doing it wrong, the game as changed and is preventing medal gains in 5 v 8 prior to match ending. 3. Claiming that no one gets medals is hardly a defense for a broken game change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaywardOne Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) It sounds like the OP is exactly who I will be happy to not see. Edited April 12, 2012 by WaywardOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeliux Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It sounds like the OP is exactly who I will be happy to not see. Solo q'ing is NOT dependent on the ability to whimsically quit with no consequences. This is so full of truth it's not even funny. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SableShadow Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) 3. Claiming that no one gets medals is hardly a defense for a broken game change. Even if true, which it isn't. The steam roller-er gets far more medals than the steam roll-ed, as of yesterday, and I doubt the dynamic has changed. If you smash their lines, repeatedly, the stragglers are just fodder. Overall game play will depend on how often this keeps occurring. Edited April 12, 2012 by SableShadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 It sounds like the OP is exactly who I will be happy to not see. Solo q'ing is NOT dependent on the ability to whimsically quit with no consequences. Try re-reading the OP. Warzones which start as 5 v 8 will no longer end after 120 secs, you'll be forced to stay or quit manually now. Reading Comprehension is Important, Kids ! Stay in school !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sworne Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Chicken Little called. He wants his hysterical overreaction to a non-issue back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Chicken Little called. He wants his hysterical overreaction to a non-issue back. Its ok, not everyone has the mental capacity to think changes like this through. Someone has to be "average", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinron Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Just stick it out. You get something for losing so its not a complete waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darktyger Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 My server has low population depending on what time of day it is. The Issues I had with WZ were not ever helped by them shutting down for low population. If you start out down 1 or 2 or heck if you dont start the game winning in the first minute. People leave, they are replaced with people form the cue and they quickly quit too. THAT sabotages the team and prevents a comeback from being possible. THAT is what they need to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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