Bamxk Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm not trying to sound snide or anything, but you must have not played many MMO's. I could write a rather long list of things that the devs of many games have said that simply wasn't true or that they just went ahead and removed features without any warning. My lesson from SWG was: Never expect anything, believe anything, count on anything or anticipate anything. When a game developer just deletes something you've put months into without any compensation, you kinda learn not to care because you will only be disappointed. I have played Lineage 2, EQ2, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, WoW, AIon and finally.. SWTOR. Let me rephrase.. I have never seen a developer be so unprofessional in their timing to release such information. They have been marketing rated warzones since they first started talking about 1.2. This is very poor timing on their part. In the past I have never seen any other game break news like this only hours before the patch goes live.. If you have plz share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorDarkstar Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Unsubbing cuz Bioware wants to make sure rated WZ's work properly? wow... i bet these same people would be on the forums complaining about how broken it is if Bioware decided to release it in its current state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 It's been like 7 years or so and I'm still bitter about my Jedi. I promised I would never pay for anything with Sony on it, and I haven't. I sold my PS2, that's how pissed off I was at the time. I feel the same, i lost my musician and after that my creature handler bh and got some grull keyrings. Went to mxo and left simply becuase warner sold the license to soe, i still think matrix online would have been on of the best games going if soe hadnt got the license, it was an insanly revolutionary combat engine for its time, probably still is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliwookie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Why is it if you do a cursory google for swtor 1.2 rated warzones you can find all sorts of BW connected sites making touting reference to the Rated Warzones in 1.2 up until about 4/9, then magically all the advertising and hype starting around 4/10 suddenly has no reference to removed content. Man, those guys must really have the insight track...but hey, this was a last minute decision right? Communicated to the player base ASAP? Yes sir! Who says they did it purposly, do you think this was a master plan or something, there is every possibilty that bioware thought they could fix it for the patch, they found out it wasnt possible and informed us. The fact that they waited so late shows that there were working hammer and tong to try and make it work but couldnt. But here is the question, do you want something that works or something that doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandi Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wish i had though. They made you grind for roughly 6 months for multiple hours a day to first get and then to cap your jedi. Then they removed the class. Are you still sure you wish you had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonMaxx Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 BW do you understand that You killing this game with such decisions? All my guild (100+ members) frozed their subs till 1.2 and ranked WZ will be there. They will not return after this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulup Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 And possibly the reason they have no eta is because they dont know, it could be fixed right now by one dev altering one line of code and put in on an emergency patch on friday, it could be in 3 weeks. They should have delayed the patch a week or so in that case - something they did not do - instead of jumping the trap on us like this. I applaud you for your positive take on the situation though (really do no joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Well closing time. See you all at 1.2. Or 1.3 for the rest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliggXx Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What a joke. I am blown away with how these developers have such an utter disconnect with their playerbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 WoW pulled Path of the Titans well before the release. I have never seen/heard of anything getting pulled 3 hours before a patch/xpac. Mind you i never really played SWG and cant comment on the particulars you mentioned in your post. Wish i had though. Well the key is pulled and delayed, ranked warzones havnt been pulled just simply delayed, and path kept me in wow for close to a year and nothing else. I mean you remember how arc and all that was meant to tie into paths, now that was a so called feature that i bet kept close to half there subs happy for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoEmpire Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wow, the way things are going for bioware we may wake up tomorrow and hear that 1.2 is postponed for another month....I understand things need to be polished before release but all due respect this content should of been ready months ago...Bioware needs to talk to trion about how to run an MMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacoffee Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What a joke. Sums it up nicely. Do companies try to fail these days?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulup Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 They made you grind for roughly 6 months for multiple hours a day to first get and then to cap your jedi. Then they removed the class. Are you still sure you wish you had? that sounds horrible I keep hearing great stories of the pre-cu days - once the community picked up a bit and i saw people/friends play the game. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliwookie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Right, and this was a last minute discovery was it? I have no doubt, given their track record, that there were all manner of bugs and inconsistencies. But really, waiting until the last minute to tell the player base that it's been pulled from the patch? Cmon, you seriously think this was nothing else but a money grab? It's a good thing that ranked warzones are delayed. There were just too many issues with them, including the potential of having uneven numbers and some even nastier things. A very brave and good call to delay them and especially listening to the community feedback in order to make thins right and not delay the whole game update any further. I just hope the delay won't cause an option to toggle on Chat Bubbles to be delayed until after 1.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrath Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I am...disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swpoop Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I like how this was touted at the summit as the "biggest content patch in mmo history". lol, is it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Wow, the way things are going for bioware we may wake up tomorrow and hear that 1.2 is postponed for another month....I understand things need to be polished before release but all due respect this content should of been ready months ago...Bioware needs to talk to trion about how to run an MMO The way people are talking about it you would think that they had deleted force users and made them play gungans and ewoks. Edited April 12, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secured Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Does that mean that we can't queue as an 8 man group? because thats really what matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallorik Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 This huge patch was a rediculous fantasy anyways, it should have always atleast been two patches Legacy then Warzones maybe even three patches (The new Ops). they would have had new stuff out way earlier and servers wouldnt have turned to ghost towns. Lets just hope that bioware is learning from all these mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyraelium Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 This thread is now the single longest running thread in ALL of SWTOR's forums, and it has been up for 7 hours only. NVM continue to be in denial. Stick your fingers in your ears LALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU. This kind of unprecedented response from the community should be a big enough sign that this issue demands immediate response and action from EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The way people are talking about it you would think that they had deleted force users and made them play gungans and ewoks. You say that like its a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabercron Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 wow, do you all hate PvP'ers or what?? I could care less about Legecy and playing alts...big whoop! I personally would like to see way more WZ's, Open PvP rewards, lower que times, and PvP balanced before I worry about playing alts. I might add my alts are 50 also already, so kinda pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefferyClark Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Who says they did it purposly, do you think this was a master plan or something, there is every possibilty that bioware thought they could fix it for the patch, they found out it wasnt possible and informed us. The fact that they waited so late shows that there were working hammer and tong to try and make it work but couldnt. But here is the question, do you want something that works or something that doesnt. The issue is that you just don't decide 6 hours before a major patch like this to not include a huge chunk of game-altering code... you don't even do that 24 hours before... the decision, was more likely made last week, so that they could get the patch build ready and make sure they didn't break something by taking out the rated warzone code. BW making it sound like this was a last-minute thing that was decided today is just an out and out lie. The way people are talking about it you would think that they had deleted force users and made them play gungans and ewoks. Those Gungans would probably be better than Guardians/Juggernauts are in 1.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Does that mean that we can't queue as an 8 man group? because thats really what matters to me. Same, what's the deal on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyraelium Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Does that mean that we can't queue as an 8 man group? because thats really what matters to me. 5-8 man queues are ONLY for Ranked WZs. No Ranked WZs in 1.2 = no 5-8 man queues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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