Cegenaus Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 If you were looking for a one-button mash wonder should have just rolled a grav round/tracer missile spammer. Just because a class is powerful, and yes maras are powerful, it still might require a modicum of skill, which I am given to understand is a requisite for sents and maras to be effective. How you rectify this, I cannot help you with but updating the bios in your sound card sounds like the best advice so far to me. i think you mean a smash spammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I see your problem. You have chosen to only faceroll... As we discuss a lot in the Marauder sub forum this is not the proper technique. There is a rotation. first - Play normally and get wtfpwned by pub trooper gangs in a wz hopefully you'll get gravshotted 2-3 times, get hit with their massive knockback then more grav and die - This is a rage builder. Second - Use that big rage builder to fling the mouse across your desk and with both hands hit your keyboard 3 times. Fists are better but open palms will work to. this is like a Gore, deadly saber, or smash set up Third - you Faceroll from right to left while screaming. The consensus is that at least 2 right to left rolls are required for max effectiveness. Some debate is still in progress as to if its better to leave the keyboard on the desk for the faceroll or to pick it up and use your hands to rotate the keyboard for an effective faceroll. Right now the answer is - whatever your play style is go with that. Lastly- look up, or put the keyboard down, and you will see that everyone on the other team has been completely destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 you sure are very bad in all classes... i don't waste my time proving you the lack of sentinel utility if u can't get it after 3 month of game it wont be me making u smart out of sudden... obviously Sentinel is op if u sux so bad that cannot use your skill and dont see other DPS utilities the problem is you. play a sentinel if it is so strong and show me how you make a team win an hutball match with ur tons of utility Predation and the only heal debuff in the game would like a word with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 i think you mean a smash spammer IF only you could spam it. Sorry Mr. grav/tracer fanboy, but an ability with a a CD like smash + a needed set up before its even effective = not a spam HOWEVER doing a rotation like the one i found on a super secret trooper pvp guild(not really) IS spam: 111111112111131111111121111111121111111131111111211111111sdfikjadfvnaqgvjn 1 = grav tracer 2= that railshot or whatever is it you say you spam tracer to make more effective. 3= probably the massive KB you have sdfikjadfvnaqgvjn = annihilation marauder interrupted you & you Rage how OP marauders are. you = all trooper/BHs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancelotOC Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Look to see a Warhero Marauder do it: http://obsoletegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Faceroll-409x280.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekish Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) oh true because a healing debuff help you cap or score a goal or defend a carrier how i forgot our healing debuff helping removing/putting bombs! it's really the utility that everyboy need! yep yep you hit it on the head... you probably understand nothing about pvp and only care about killing your 1vs1 or 1vs2 enemy (look at the healing debuff comment) I bet you are one of those Arena guys... way to prove my point you sux at warzone pulling/pushing/stun/slow/AOE those are Warzone king now count how many of those Sentinel has and how many of those other class has... then come back once u did ur homework. we had one very decent utility in huttball before 1.2 it was the invulnerability 99% usefull to run thorugh the fire that combined with a well aimed leap and our lame speed boost was our way to score "few" goal (3 of our major cooldown to score 1 goal yeah we rock!) now they removed only 50% inv so we cannot actually pass the fire while resolve is on with our bubble it yeah no more score for us unless the other team is incredible terrible now from situationally usefull in hutball are going down to rarely usefull.... thank god we keep our situationally usefullness in Civil war with our half decent group/speed boost and we keep beeing rarely usefull in Voidstar where our single target damage it's a ticket to one way distraction while they cap behind our back. If there were an Arena probably we would shine in that one... but last i check they are all objective based PVP and doesn't favor sentinel Edited April 11, 2012 by Pekish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 IF only you could spam it. Sorry Mr. grav/tracer fanboy, but an ability with a a CD like smash + a needed set up before its even effective = not a spam HOWEVER doing a rotation like the one i found on a super secret trooper pvp guild(not really) IS spam: 111111112111131111111121111111121111111131111111211111111sdfikjadfvnaqgvjn 1 = grav tracer 2= that railshot or whatever is it you say you spam tracer to make more effective. 3= probably the massive KB you have sdfikjadfvnaqgvjn = annihilation marauder interrupted you & you Rage how OP marauders are. you = all trooper/BHs sorry mr smash fanboi but you just admitted you have no idea how bh works. #1 tm is a buffing ability for hsm and rs and procs unload, all of which do more damage than tm. #2 if you think all arsenal mercs use is tm, rs, and jetboost then i want to duel you cause i will kick your teeth in i found a rotation from a super secret rage pvp guild and it goes like this: 123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232 1=crush 2=smash 3=choke looks familiar doesnt it? anni marauder? stack bleeds > spam annihilate. seems pretty op huh? i have no problem taking on ANY marauder as an arsenal merc, sounds like you have a little chip on your shoulder for bhs. lose much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNotorius Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) I wanna see Marauder players try Sorcerers / BH, and get jumped by a competent Marauder. They will see how it's actually harder to survive with them, making Marauders easier to play. Edited April 11, 2012 by TheNotorius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEvilBus Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 maras underpowered? ... your fighting against the wrong classes, from where i stand they are so deadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebby Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 lol at the actual maur/sents in the this thread, gud fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) sorry mr smash fanboi but you just admitted you have no idea how bh works. #1 tm is a buffing ability for hsm and rs and procs unload, all of which do more damage than tm. #2 if you think all arsenal mercs use is tm, rs, and jetboost then i want to duel you cause i will kick your teeth in i found a rotation from a super secret rage pvp guild and it goes like this: 123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232123212321232 1=crush 2=smash 3=choke looks familiar doesnt it? anni marauder? stack bleeds > spam annihilate. seems pretty op huh? i have no problem taking on ANY marauder as an arsenal merc, sounds like you have a little chip on your shoulder for bhs. lose much? You seem to have taken my post personally, but you are correct i don't know the ins and outs of a BH but you clearly don't know how a Warrior works either. First...you can't spam annihilate either, it has a base 15 second CD, and it has the largest resource requirement of any marauder ability. Secondly, the real point is that a BH has compare to all other classes had less player skill needed to match the preformance of others classes with a much higher skill curve. The Devs seem to completly agree with that too as the reason for a large majoritoy of the changes in 1.2 for BH/troop was so that ' to encourge much more active game play " - pharaphrasing of course. but IE... a lot of troops/BHs spam grav and tracer and get the same results as someone that has to use more skill and more tools to get the same effect. Lastly, you'd need at least something like this if you want to minic a marauder rotation: =-1shift+7 8 1 1 ctrl+= 3 ctrl+0 2 F C 0 2 0 shift+d - shift+7 8 shift+w 3 = - shift+7 8 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 f shift+f Shift+2 - 0 4 0 shift+1 = - shift+7 8 1 0 the And to answer your question. No, I don't "lose much" I hope you will not take this post as personally as you did that last. Edited April 12, 2012 by Dacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hello. I am a sith marauder and i hit lvl 50 a little less than a month ago. I am now in top end gear and i am still getting owned. This is not what i was promised. The forums said that this was a faceroll class but no matter how many times i roll my face across my keyboard.. nothing is dead when i look up. i have tried every possible angle and still nothing dies. i am a maurader. I should be marauding stuff.. but at this rate the only thing that i will be marauding is my face. Please help. -Fleece The OP tells the truth, it is time the designers see this and give Mara a 12k DPS ability with 60m range that hits every enemy within 100m of the target. With the suggested above change Mara may be competitive again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I wanna see Marauder players try Sorcerers / BH, and get jumped by a competent Marauder. They will see how it's actually harder to survive with them, making Marauders easier to play. Thats why its called a counter class. We are a counter to sorc just as a sniper is a counter to a sentinel. Welcome to MMO PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakataTan Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 people got super cereal in an obviously saracastic thread? i *********** love the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilim Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I wrecked a marauder so bad yesterday on my gunslinger. I got hit by a lightsaber throw and dats it. Underpowered class is underpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperThomas Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 1) Bind keys effectively. 2) Spam 1 key. 3) Spam 2 key. 4) Spam snare. 5) Repeat 2-4. 6) Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheeling Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I wrecked a marauder so bad yesterday on my gunslinger. I got hit by a lightsaber throw and dats it. Underpowered class is underpowered. Sounds more just like a bad Marauder. Or one who got caught with both Obfuscate and Force Camo on cd. I know my beating snipers relies heavily on Force Camo at least. Force Choke is also a big deal when going against snipers. I haven't had a chance to go against any amazing snipers/'slingers on my server, but the win seems to be cd dependent. And I'm a pretty dang good Marauder if I say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woahdude Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 maybe if you had a good looking face you would be hitting the right keys... must be a hutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 You seem to have taken my post personally, but you are correct i don't know the ins and outs of a BH but you clearly don't know how a Warrior works either. First...you can't spam annihilate either, it has a base 15 second CD, and it has the largest resource requirement of any marauder ability. Secondly, the real point is that a BH has compare to all other classes had less player skill needed to match the preformance of others classes with a much higher skill curve. The Devs seem to completly agree with that too as the reason for a large majoritoy of the changes in 1.2 for BH/troop was so that ' to encourge much more active game play " - pharaphrasing of course. but IE... a lot of troops/BHs spam grav and tracer and get the same results as someone that has to use more skill and more tools to get the same effect. Lastly, you'd need at least something like this if you want to minic a marauder rotation: =-1shift+7 8 1 1 ctrl+= 3 ctrl+0 2 F C 0 2 0 shift+d - shift+7 8 shift+w 3 = - shift+7 8 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 f shift+f Shift+2 - 0 4 0 shift+1 = - shift+7 8 1 0 the And to answer your question. No, I don't "lose much" I hope you will not take this post as personally as you did that last. you must be a hipster. "im too cool to care about anything". by replying to my post you obviously do care or you wouldnt have written half a page, try againarsenal mercs use whats given to them. sorry that we dont get 5 defensive abilities, thats 4 less buttons we get to press. that makes arsenal easy how? if i wanted to mimic a marauder rotation i would.........wait i cant because i dont get a million defensive cds and i can only use what i am specced for or i will generate too much heat. must be nice to not have any restrictions on your class you wanna try something hard? play an arsenal merc and get focused by someone and try to get away with no defensive cooldowns or escape from combat abilities but you wouldnt know about that as you are playing BWs pet class right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annex Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Press the 1 key harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halefthaut Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I have tried a different technique on my merc. I call it bumroll: i sit on my keyboard while i f ap and fart loudly. Pressure, movement and heat makes sure i spam hard Tracer Missile. Also, i have a free hand so i can eat nachos with cheddar & jalapeños Edited April 12, 2012 by Halefthaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsMoriendi Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 best thread ever. Thanks for making my workday start off with a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 but you wouldnt know about that as you are playing BWs pet class right? So 2 months ago the inquisitor was BW's pet class. Now its the marauder? Hmm I wonder whats next. Ignorance be bliss. Keep being bad Mr. baddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orrow Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 What in the hell are you Muras/sents doing in this thread? Go get your face roll on before Bioware takes it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 So 2 months ago the inquisitor was BW's pet class. Now its the marauder? Hmm I wonder whats next. Ignorance be bliss. Keep being bad Mr. baddie. point out where i said inquisitors were bws pet class? point out where im bad? im surprised you know how to work your keyboard with that logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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