Agrian Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hidden Strike now has a CD of 25 seconds. Hidden Strike no longer requires stealth and teleports you behind the target as it does its damage. you now have to choose between burst damage on your opener or saving it for a potential kite. Choices in gameplay, zomg! This also bumps up PvE dps a bit. win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNightfall Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Teleports do not belong in Star Wars, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItGetsAllOver Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Teleports do not belong in Star Wars, period. Time to get rid of Emergency Fleet Pass and Quick Travel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrian Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Teleports do not belong in Star Wars, period. it engages a micro hyper drive in your stealth generator to "warp" you behind the target then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QisaBluevixen Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 And the Rakata teleporters on Belsavis! If we pretend they aren't there, they don't exist! But, on topic, I'm pretty satisfied with how Ops are at the moment (pre 1.2). We don't fly around the screen like other classes, but we have stealth which is pretty sweet. I would think a teleporting hidden strike would create even more calls for nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocherel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 IMO it would makes people cry even more, the guy teleport and smash you every 25sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatham Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hidden Strike now has a CD of 25 seconds. Hidden Strike no longer requires stealth and teleports you behind the target as it does its damage. you now have to choose between burst damage on your opener or saving it for a potential kite. Choices in gameplay, zomg! This also bumps up PvE dps a bit. win/win. Or I could just play an assassin and have a sweet gap closer that has other uses (force speed), a better immunity cooldown (tech/force vs. white damage in case you were wondering), and either excellent utility/survivability while still doing decent damage (darkness) or roughly equal burst (deception). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrian Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Or I could just play an assassin and have a sweet gap closer that has other uses (force speed), a better immunity cooldown (tech/force vs. white damage in case you were wondering), and either excellent utility/survivability while still doing decent damage (darkness) or roughly equal burst (deception). to be fair, their gap closer does not have z-axis mobility. any kind of blink to target ability would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrian Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 IMO it would makes people cry even more, the guy teleport and smash you every 25sec i fail to see how. they are still only getting HS'd once or so per fight, same as it is now. except with an attached gap closer it could come AFTER the knockback, dash, etc. for any kind of pvp engagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fronteria Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The perfect gap closer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrian Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 The perfect gap closer: i wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahebish Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hidden Strike now has a CD of 25 seconds. Hidden Strike no longer requires stealth and teleports you behind the target as it does its damage. you now have to choose between burst damage on your opener or saving it for a potential kite. Choices in gameplay, zomg! This also bumps up PvE dps a bit. win/win. I'd rather use sleep dart as my opener than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatham Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 to be fair, their gap closer does not have z-axis mobility. any kind of blink to target ability would. Well in my case I'd just force them to come to me, but you're right. On top of that I'd also have a knockback for those tricky ledges in huttball. It seems like agents need a good once over by bioware is what I'm saying because concealment and lethality desperately need to be fixed. I think medicine is salvageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulkweazel Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The perfect gap closer: Our Hidden Strike/gap closer should work like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynbote Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 to be fair, their gap closer does not have z-axis mobility. any kind of blink to target ability would. To be fair their gap closer can also be used as an escape. This idea would need a target to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWToRBurns Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 This or it's not worth having one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaucho Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Teleports do not belong in Star Wars, period. Well, Teleportation is already in-game, if you weren't aware the fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalTorrak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hidden Strike now has a CD of 25 seconds. Hidden Strike no longer requires stealth and teleports you behind the target as it does its damage. you now have to choose between burst damage on your opener or saving it for a potential kite. Choices in gameplay, zomg! This also bumps up PvE dps a bit. win/win. I actually like this idea, altho 25 seconds? Really? How will that help anything all you will do is get knocked off the ledge and you are stuck for .... 25 seconds , I do agree a teleport would be awesome though hell this game is based on (not timeline wise) but future tech, why the hell wouldn't you have teleports. Teleports do not belong in Star Wars, period. As I said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalTorrak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 To be fair their gap closer can also be used as an escape. This idea would need a target to be used. So what, leap is also to a target and to a friend with tanks.... why not with us to, we have one of the ****test survivability rates of all classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynbote Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 So what, leap is also to a target and to a friend with tanks.... why not with us to, we have one of the ****test survivability rates of all classes. I'm on your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marak Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Grapple hook out of our little arm thing we shoot darts out of would work. Not sure how to work it for smugglers. Shoot a grapple hook out of their scattergun maybe. Edited April 6, 2012 by Marak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goulet Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 just give us something similar to powertechs ap ability, kb/movement immunity for 8 seconds, run speed increase (30%) on a 30 s cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinak Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) The only problem we have is requiring targets after getting cc'd. We don't need a shadow step. Something like a time dilation/adrenaline rush where we can charge our targets while out of stealth. Or something like a grappling hook ground target ability that places us at our targeted location. I would also like to see Sneak increase our run speed for X% so we can catch up to moving targets while in stealth. Edited April 6, 2012 by Vinak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrdan Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 It is too bad that bioware didn't just use more of a WoW rogue combo point system for operative. I know it would be obvious copying but who cares, really? Bioware... you can still do it.. change TA to a tactical points system (stacking to five). At any rate this is my idea for a in-combat gap closer: 30 sec cooldown, 10 energy -- consumes a point of TA to boost speed by 70% for 6 seconds (or 100% for 4 seconds, 150% for 2 seconds, whatever!). Also increases damage of next melee skill by 10% for 6 seconds. I would the waylay skill in the Concealment tree reduce the cooldown of this skill by 7.5/15 sec I would combine this skill with a buff to Corrosive Dart, Corrosive Grenade, and Acid Blade in that any mob that dies while under the effect of an operative DoT grants a TA point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts