Varicite Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I'd be impressed by the "explanations" and defensive posts of TM spammers, if they only had 3 abilities to spam. You do know you have a lot more than that, right? What class do you play exactly? Do you run around just spamming your auto-attack ability for the fun of it? Who cares if it would be a lot more useful to save it for a better time, or if the resource cost makes it too expensive to use, let's just use whatever gets put in our ability tab. If it's there, everyone should use it all the time, right? If that's really how you play, I can understand exactly why you have a problem w/ Arsenal Mercs. The rest of us think they're fine, if not a little sad in 1v1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheronFett Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Blame BioWare for this, not the players. They're just playing the hand they've been dealt. TM/Grav Round spammers are no different than any other class who has a damage rotation, just that those classes are tied down to 1 spammable ability to maximize their potential. I see a lot of Telekinetic Throw spammers as well...and they have far more tools at their disposal. Edited April 1, 2012 by TheronFett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Blame BioWare for this, not the players. They're just playing the hand they've been dealt. TM/Grav Round spammers are no different than any other class who has a damage rotation, just that those classes are tied down to 1 spammable ability to maximize their potential. I see a lot of Telekinetic Throw spammers as well...and they have far more tools at their disposal.Who the heck would spam a non-spammable ability? You're silly. Do you mean disturbance spammers? Edited April 1, 2012 by Nangasaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitsuo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Who the heck would spam a non-spammable ability? You're silly. Do you mean disturbance spammers? Telekinetic Balance This talent in the Balance tree reduces Telekinetic Throw CD to zero. 99% of Sages/Sorcerers have this variant of the talent, which is why they can spam Force Lightning/Telekinetic Throw. Do you PvP at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheronFett Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Do you mean disturbance spammers? Whatever the heck that rock throwing crap is called. It's their go-to ability. Interrupt it and they run away and use it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekeiele Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Funny it's like 5 skills in the advanced tree that buff "Project" but you are a "spammer" if you use it off cooldown...same for GR/TM whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordius Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Retarded post from a retard....awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Calling a Merc out on tracer spam is like calling a healer out on spamming heals. Just make you look stupid. People treat Mercs and Troopers like they designed the class and are idiots for playing it. Nobody is doing anything wrong by tracer spamming assuming they are keeping unload, rail shot and heatseekers on cooldown. Unfortunately people NEVER see a rail shot or heatseeker casted because it's instant cast. Should Merc and Troopers reroll their class because their mechanics are significantly easier than other classes? I dont understand what people crying about it want. Do they want us to admit our rotation is easy in comparison to some other classes? Honestly though, most of the time the people that cry about tracer spam are healers spamming their 2 heals over and over and over. Healers need to learn to play and quite spamming 2 skills. honestly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebigz Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 retarded post from a retard....awesome! qft /5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Whatever the heck that rock throwing crap is called. It's their go-to ability. Interrupt it and they run away and use it again. You do realize that everything that they have for real damage is tied to getting a proc by using that ability, yes? Everything else that they can use does less damage or has a cooldown. Oh, you must not, and just get mad that they're playing the class the way it was designed to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheronFett Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) You do realize that everything that they have for real damage is tied to getting a proc by using that ability, yes? Everything else that they can use does less damage or has a cooldown. Oh, you must not, and just get mad that they're playing the class the way it was designed to be played. Yes, I realize that...which is what I indicated in my first post in this topic: Don't hate the player for playing the hand they've been dealt. I was merely pointing out that TM/GR spammers are no different than other classes, it just seems that TM/GR gets all the hate. Thanks for the troll attempt, though. Better luck next time. Edited April 1, 2012 by TheronFett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Yes, I realize that...which is what I indicated in my first post in this topic: Don't hate the player for playing the hand they've been dealt. I was merely pointing out that TM/GR spammers are no different than other classes, it just seems that TM/GR gets all the hate. Thanks for the troll attempt, though. Better luck next time. I think I totally misread what you meant, actually. Sorry about that. Edited April 1, 2012 by Varicite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Whatever the heck that rock throwing crap is called. It's their go-to ability. Interrupt it and they run away and use it again.That is telekinetic throw. But you can't spam it. It's 6-second cooldown, and you cast it after you have 3 prior procs of project...and depending on if they specc'd 50% or 100%, it could be many more projects or slow time after that before throwing rocks. But no shadow/sin "spams" telekinetic throw. LOL. Now Sages, on the other hand, might spam disturbance. It's their go-to-all-the-time ability...like sorcs and lightning. Edited April 1, 2012 by Nangasaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Yes, I realize that...which is what I indicated in my first post in this topic: Don't hate the player for playing the hand they've been dealt. I was merely pointing out that TM/GR spammers are no different than other classes, it just seems that TM/GR gets all the hate. Thanks for the troll attempt, though. Better luck next time. It's true. All the hate goes to mercs and troopers even though pretty much every class has skills they spam. In all honesty, Merc's have one of the top PVP burst rotations in the game which involves 5 skills. Any merc that does not use this rotation is bad. Explosive Dart > Tracer Missile > Heatseeker Missile > Rail Shot > Unload Any squishy class will be dead after that rotation. And guess what! It's not tracer spam!!! Unfortunately, after that rotation everything is on cooldown and tracer spamming is the only viable option until cooldowns are up unless you want to gimp your damage in favor of making the cry babies happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 That is telekinetic throw. But you can't spam it. It's 6-second cooldown, and you cast it after you have 3 prior procs of project...and depending on if they specc'd 50% or 100%, it could be many more projects or slow time after that before throwing rocks. But no shadow/sin "spams" telekinetic throw. LOL. Now Sages, on the other hand, might spam disturbance. It's their go-to-all-the-time ability...like sorcs and lightning. Kind of like Tracer Missile for Mercs? lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyritwind Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 As an assassin I will use 25-26 abilities in every war zone. 3 button rotation with just a few more based on conditions sounds pretty easy, but I wont say you have any thing better to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 It's true. All the hate goes to mercs and troopers even though pretty much every class has skills they spam. In all honesty, Merc's have one of the top PVP burst rotations in the game which involves 5 skills. Any merc that does not use this rotation is bad. Explosive Dart > Tracer Missile > Heatseeker Missile > Rail Shot > Unload Any squishy class will be dead after that rotation. And guess what! It's not tracer spam!!! Unfortunately, after that rotation everything is on cooldown and tracer spamming is the only viable option until cooldowns are up unless you want to gimp your damage in favor of making the cry babies happy.It would be great if they were brought in line to require more than that to be viable...like the hardest-to-master classes. But it won't happen, because BW has to leave extremely easy classes with short learning curves in the game so those who breathe through their mouth can have something to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 As an assassin I will use 25-26 abilities in every war zone. 3 button rotation with just a few more based on conditions sounds pretty easy, but I wont say you have any thing better to do.This is genuine truth. Yet these fools who create 100+ page threads begging for shadow/sin nerfs don't understand that the level of mastery behind someone playing a class that requires that many abilities is what sets the class apart and seemingly appears overpowered. When someone masters that many abilities, of course they're going to decimate 3 and 5 button spammers most of the time. And of course they're going to draw attention from the easy-moders asking for nerfs to keep their 3 and 5 buttons more viable. If they could only play with their mouse and never use their keyboard (some already appear to do so), they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naizgrel Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 If a TM spammer shouldnt you get out of his LoS ? Gunnery and Arsenal are both stacionary DPS Trees. We dont have incredible movility like marauders or assassins, we only have 1 knockback (2 if specced), once you LoS us GG. Even, try interrupting sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebigz Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Op is just another terribad let him cry and try to troll. Keep thinking any class in this game is actually hard to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 If a TM spammer shouldnt you get out of his LoS ? Gunnery and Arsenal are both stacionary DPS Trees. We dont have incredible movility like marauders or assassins, we only have 1 knockback (2 if specced), once you LoS us GG. Even, try interrupting sometime. LOL. TM spammers run when interrupted...like chickens with their heads cut off...waiting for the 4-second lockout to expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitsuo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) That is telekinetic throw. But you can't spam it. It's 6-second cooldown Telekinetic Balance This talent in the Balance tree reduces Telekinetic Throw CD to zero. 99% of Sages/Sorcerers have this variant of the talent, which is why they can spam Force Lightning/Telekinetic Throw. Do you PvP at all? I'm reposting this response because you can't seem to read. Telekinetic throw can be spammed by Sages. Edited April 1, 2012 by jitsuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) I'm reposting this response because you can't seem to read. Telekinetic throw can be spammed by Sages.Sages. And he was complaining about shadows/assassins. Read the entire context, and you would see that. And again, however, spamming TT is really, really, really bad. You want procs from other abilities before even considering casting it once. Edit: And repost it however many times you like. It won't change the context. Edited April 1, 2012 by Nangasaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 You know what the difference is between TM spam and other classes? TM in champ gear does more damage than my hardest hitting ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelodicSixNine Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Roll a merc gents and try to spam only tracer missile you will see how sucky it is on it's own. TM, Railshot, unload, HM - our main dps abilities if we are not disturbed Death from above, explosive dart, 2 cc's, jet boost, rocket punch(could count as a CC if you talent speced it), stealth scan, energry shield, heals - nearly all secondary abilities I use in every warzone as a arsenal merc 4 abilites? Bull*****. We use as much(good BHs) as any other class. Just because you see big as.s missiles fire at you it doesn't mean we spam it all the time. Good thing it's going to be replaced with fusion missile animation... maybe the TM spam QQing will disappear. Edited April 1, 2012 by MelodicSixNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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