amantheil Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Not really, the two aren't mutually exclusive. For starters, this is one of Biowares main selling points for SWTOR - "The Legacy System" along with the VO's are supposed to make this MMO stand out. Meaning, if its one of your main points, it should have been in at launch. That said, The Legacy System is kind of unnecessary and yes, a poor use of resources. 200 million for VO's and a fancy chart system with credit sinks. I'd rather they spent it on gameplay. And you (well not you, but the person you're responding to) need to keep in mind that different people have different arguments. Some people love some of the 1.2 changes but think some of these (and other) features should have been available from the start. There could be a completely different group of people who think the features are a waste of time and resources no matter when they were implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenyr Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 The difference being that WoW's Cataclysm expansion came out over a year ago. The latest patch featured a raid that killed the main villain. People have known for a long time that the patch would be the last new content before the next expansion. SWTOR is a brand new game that came out 3 months ago. The lack of content is therefore a much bigger disappointment. Even so grinding same raid for 4 months and who knows for how much longer dont make players to rant over the same as on these forums. But I think I ask to much reason over chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenpig Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Fluff is good. Very good. Not everything in the game needs to be so serious. However, at such an early stage in release, extra little features like this that will not add much to gameplay but will still require a large amount of resources are unneccessary. I would rather have them simply add more operations, flashpoints, and more MMO features in general rather than in essence expand on the single player experience, which they in no way need to do. It's the multiplayer they need to focus on, whether it's the lack of endgame or the population problems, and I think pretty much the whole TOR community speaks in unison on this. I agree wholeheartedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 And you (well not you, but the person you're responding to) need to keep in mind that different people have different arguments. Some people love some of the 1.2 changes but think some of these (and other) features should have been available from the start. There could be a completely different group of people who think the features are a waste of time and resources no matter when they were implemented. Yea. I could care less, but some people are going to love it to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropicus Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintan Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 The "Legacy" system is a bunch of garbage - Bioware continues to impose their "great ideas" on people as they ignore 99% of the concerns of people. Most people I know to be serious gamers have given up hope for this game, we tried to hang in there don't get me wrong but what is there to look forward to in this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatebomb Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Who gives a flip about legacy really. Ohhhhh I can have a Chiss Jedi. Big deal races are purely cosmetic and with all the gear we wear who can see it anyway? ZOMG! A GTN on the ship. Pfft who hangs out on their ship? Fluff is nice but not when there are so many things that need to be done first. Fix your bugs. Develop character transfers to different servers. Add some new dailies etc....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerodian Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Who gives a flip about legacy really. Ohhhhh I can have a Chiss Jedi. Big deal races are purely cosmetic and with all the gear we wear who can see it anyway? ZOMG! A GTN on the ship. Pfft who hangs out on their ship? Fluff is nice but not when there are so many things that need to be done first. Fix your bugs. Develop character transfers to different servers. Add some new dailies etc....... Well considering that I stubbornly refuse to do gear treadmills or shoe-box dueling for nifty points, there's really not much left at the top of the game to hold my interest. I'm a bit neutral to the Legacy system, overall, but at least it's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatebomb Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Well considering that I stubbornly refuse to do gear treadmills or shoe-box dueling for nifty points, there's really not much left at the top of the game to hold my interest. I'm a bit neutral to the Legacy system, overall, but at least it's something. Actually this whole legacy thing reminds me of ship interiors for STO. People cried and cried about getting them and when STO came out with them it was really cool. For about 5 min. Legacy and all the stuff in the ship will be cool. For about 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwhimsicalz Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 Actually this whole legacy thing reminds me of ship interiors for STO. People cried and cried about getting them and when STO came out with them it was really cool. For about 5 min. Legacy and all the stuff in the ship will be cool. For about 5 minutes. I agree it might be neat at first, but man my server is dead.....and the population is dying....I just don't see how ANYTHING in 1.2 saves it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwhimsicalz Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 The "Legacy" system is a bunch of garbage - Bioware continues to impose their "great ideas" on people as they ignore 99% of the concerns of people. Most people I know to be serious gamers have given up hope for this game, we tried to hang in there don't get me wrong but what is there to look forward to in this game? I definitely feel you on this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzKnc Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I don't give a **** about legacy stuff, i'd much rather have them implement quality of life features that should have been there since day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingDinosaur Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 oh but it will, it so will, if you want some crack vanillia game that does nothing.......don't know what to tell you. What they're doing with the legacy system is pretty awesome. Whoa there. Legacy doesn't touch PvP in any way unless you count the appearances of players. Legacy will only play a minor part in solo PvE content. Maybe a little in group content if you have someone with a companion out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esproc Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Truthfully, I'm not really hyped or bugged about it. MEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPopcorn Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I welcome the addition of legacy, but to me it just seems like the focus is on alts. I would much prefer more general quality of life improvements and content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestertron Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 From what a friend told me, the Legacy system reminded him of Torchlight's retirement for characters, except you can continue it and it does affect other ones you create. I have to admit, the Sur name and the ability to transfer the alien choices (even though there is no real significance between them all) along with random abilities is kinda neat. We all know this is a ploy by Bioware to keep people playing this game with making alts, or to come back. I hate to say "at least they are trying." But it's one of many features they stated are planned for this game in the future. Like I keep saying, we'll just see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banicks Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Don't care, just dedicating myself to one toon. From the Legacy video I fill the criteria which was covered in one sentence: "For those who only play one character, there will be some cool stuff in it for you as well." What that cool stuff is? Sure we'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerodian Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Actually this whole legacy thing reminds me of ship interiors for STO. People cried and cried about getting them and when STO came out with them it was really cool. For about 5 min. Legacy and all the stuff in the ship will be cool. For about 5 minutes. The reason the appeal didn't last is because the ship interiors in STO were incomplete and static. It's one thing to add those interiors, but another to actually make them useful, which the devs there failed to do and what the devs here have failed to do with the ship interiors in TOR and will very likely do with the legacy ship rewards. Edited April 3, 2012 by Bluerodian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englez Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 After reading the abilities are tied to heroic moment, no I don't particularly care about legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatebomb Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 The reason the appeal didn't last is because the ship interiors in STO were incomplete and static. It's one thing to add those interiors, but another to actually make them useful, which the devs there failed to do and what the devs here have failed to do with the ship interiors in TOR and will very likely do with the legacy ship rewards. Agree totally. Besides we all know the REAL reason for the legacy and focusing on alts. Because level 50=game over and people need a reason to keep paying that sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiysis Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 It's pretty difficult to care about legacy when you're stuck playing a multiplayer game solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonhart Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 As long as it doesn't affect PVP, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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