Early Access 'Waves' - Updating Here

[Darth_Vidius]

So you are afraid you wont get into early access and miss leveling with friends, which makes you angry at Bioware, since you are angry at Bioware you are greifing on a forum...

 

OMG, I just figured it out. Bioware is secretly supporting the Sith. All of this frustration is designed just to drive you to the Dark Side.

 

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

 

and suffering leads to alcohol! WOOOOO JAGER BOMBS ALL AROUND!!! lol

[Krolof]

Wave system is good for not overloading system, but the process used is crap.

A first year programer could have used all the info already in system based around everyones dates and codes to set up system which after you set up subscription you would be give date and time for access . All the quess work would be gone and everyone would have info in hand. Great game, good grafics, and poor thinking on launch.

[thelavalamp]

Passing the time watching Christmas Story

 

 

YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT

 

(possibly with an arrow that was meant for your knee)

[QuartzOne]

LOL Bioware just failed

 

fixed for ya m8 yw

[MrCayn]

i love reids statement about adding servers, yeah as if that would make sense after guild deployment logic fails again

[smellyfed]

It's alright - I was wanting a name with all consonants anyway.

[Paracaster]

everytime you post god kills an ewok

 

Thank god, I do.

[Cadounda]

All I really want is a timeline of who is getting access when, it's like being 13 again and waiting for christmas, but not knowing when christmas is

 

Other than that I'm fine with how it's being handled.

[Lee_Kall]

am loving it like said u might not get on until the 20th

[GKGK]

everytime you post god kills an ewok

 

I hate ewoks.

[Cptn_Miller]

Originally Posted by kinegos

this isn't a troll, and isn't exactly qq although there is some of that involved.

 

I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that i've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other mmo games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is.

 

When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, i just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing.

 

So, ea/bw - what exactly are you afraid of?

 

The only way this should have been done is to have given all pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. Ce customers get 7 days, se get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available.

 

I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an mmo franchise.

 

At any rate, i love this game. I love bw. But i truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason.

 

I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out.

 

 

AGREE, ega launch is FUBAR, one thing is certain - they know how to piss off a lot of people haha

[Demolitionlover]

At the moment everyone is whining about how they didn't get in and how Bioware should've let everyone in at once. You know what would've happened if they HAD let everyone in at the same time and you had everyone crowding the early zones at once? Whining about the overcrowding. There will always be people who find something to complain about. I pre-ordered in September, and did I get in today? Nope. Am I gonna complain about it? Nope. I'm going to go out to a club tonight and drink away my sorrows while hitting on hot girls and dancing, which is the PROPER WAY TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS! I accept that I pre-ordered later than some, I agree with the principal of first come first served and realize I'm not first in line. And while I do think BW could've given a bit more notice about when each individual might get in, whether they do or not is their choice, and I also agree the staggered wave system is their best bet for a smooth early access launch.

 

The lesson in all this is. The proper response to hardship is not to whine, but to go out clubbing. If you have a girlfriend, take her with you. If you're married, then just get your wife to smack you around a bit like she does every other time you complain about random stuff.

 

See, THIS I like. Although I am amused at the crying. So not amused at the repeated spamming of the same message over and over again. Perhaps the proper thing is to go home and smack my husband around. ///contemplates

[Hotnpeppa]

How about a cup of chill the **** out people!

 

Funny thing is.. in like 8 days this is all forgotten.................

[Blueflamers]

on the first day of christmas

 

 

bioware gave to me....

 

 

 

Long lines of waiting!

 

You Sir, Deserve Early game accsess now. I would give you mine, but I odnt have it so yea.

[Tersidre]

this thread has proven that there is no god

[Bramblerose]

"Now whether it be

******* oblivion, or some craven scruple

Of thinking too precisely on th' event—

A thought which, quarter'd, hath but one part wisdom

And ever three parts coward—I do not know

Why yet I live to say this thing's to do,

Sith I have cause, and will, and strength, and means

To do't."

 

William Shakespeare, Hamlet

[Sillybill]

This is just too much fun. I almost think it's more entertaining than the game itself. Poor you guys, 2 days ahead of what was advertised as the beginning of the early access program and you're QQing that your not in already. You guys are so mistreated. How DARE they open up the early access even earlier than originally planned. Yep, this sure is a bad sign. A sign of just how immature this community is

[ellord]

close to 700 pages

[Barraka]

World of Warcraft has no issues.......

[Tincher]

The most funny part about all this is that all this nerds will rejoice in the game with early access, will have a stable and amazing start into an amazing game.

On the 20th, they will be on the servers saying that the game is awesome, that they even got early access (trying to create envy on those that didn't pre-order), showing their nice sabers and staps, and they will never talk about this anymore.

 

It reminds me a review for a geek in youtube. All his reviews during this past year, he said Bioware sucks, Bioware would fail becouse of this and that, that beta was terrible (although he wasn't invited yet), that Bioware didn't respond to any of his emails (like they should, lol), and imediatly after getting access to the beta, everything changed, Bioware did a great work, all MMO's would have to be like SWTOR from now on, all systems were excelent, etc.

 

In my personal experience, I do follow Bioware since the first KOTOR, I was online when the announcement was made about a third KOTOR that would be an MMO and nobody believed Bioware could do it (well, it's true both KOTOR where filled with annoying bugs).

I was there when it actually became a reallity, this game would really go ahead and Bioware would really do it. I was listening when they changed the name and concept. I waitted all these years with a lot of patience although the ideia of this game trully exist was a dream come true and a huge step for mankind.

I registred on SWTOR webpage when I started to feel that Bioware was trully confident about this achievement. I waitted again after irrealistic predictions of next year, next spring, next may, next summer, next everything.

Never ever bothered to write an email to Bioware beggin for beta test.

One day, I get an email from them allowing my beta test access.

Went to test it super excited about the so gratefull oportunity to be a part of this.

Performed every possible test on various step ups.

Answered their surveys about the game.

Next weekend, was another test, I wasn't invited in and I didn't dished the game or Bioware off.

Waitted for more CE availability but they never came.

Pre-ordered the DDE on the last day of November after giving up my hopes for more CE's suplies.

The said "up to 5 days access" and I thought "one day would already be great".

Then Bioware surprises us all with this gift of possible 7 days, pushing a lot of "one day early access" players to a lot bigger chance of two or three days.

And today, I arrive here an thousands of people are complaining about Bioware and early-access.

 

Where is this world going to?!

Do they even have any obligation to listen to you?!

"Hey Stan! Try to understand, I didn't want you for a fan!"

 

Be very gratefull for Lucasarts (George Lucas) and Bioware spent so many time and resources to build this amazing game for their profits, dreams and achievemnt, but also for our dreams come true.

 

Thank you Bioware, please invite me in at anytime you like and/or ready for it.

I don't care if I only get in on the 22th. (Europe official starting date).

All I care is that you keep up this good work on the following years, that you manage to make even more dreams come true as I know you have a lot more in store for us, a please, disregard completly this childish dogmatic wave of ignorant people. They don't even imagine where we were in KOTOR (that too, a dream came true) and they don't even imagine where we'll end up when all our imagination and dreams come true.

 

Thank you George for this Universe and for all the trouble you have to make it wider and wider and wider.

 

Amazing. Trully worth of mention in History books for all mankind in the future. You can level this with an amazing step to what we gamers trully aim for.

Perfect simulation, perfect sensation, perfect alter-worlds.

 

Alive since zx spectrum 48k.

Forget about this kids that were born with everything and actually know nothing.

 

Cheers.

 

^ he's secretly heated lololol

[Macaro]

Thanks for the update ... unfortunately it is a little late for me. This has already left a bad taste in my mouth. This should have all been vetted out before you offer EGA. This is a paying service so I have no sympathy for your lack of understanding. Also, knowing how bad EA runs its servers (if you have FIFA 11 on any gaming console, or any other EA game, you know what I mean) I really have no confidence this will be a positive gaming experience for me. After waiting close to three years for the release of this game I can only say shame on you.

 

If this is enough to send you crying, good, I'd hate to play with a whining little girl like you. They are letting in ALL WHO PREORDERED 5 days early as promised. So what is your problem? That they let some people in before that? I am waiting for my invite, but anything before 15th is a bonus. If the fact that some people get to play a few hours before you is enough to set you off, you have lived a way too sheltered life.

[Spamfish]

IF YOU AGREE ROLL LIGHTSIDE

 

this isn't a troll, and isn't exactly qq although there is some of that involved.

 

I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that i've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other mmo games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is.

 

When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, i just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing.

 

So, ea/bw - what exactly are you afraid of?

 

The only way this should have been done is to have given all pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. Ce customers get 7 days, se get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available.

 

I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an mmo franchise.

 

At any rate, i love this game. I love bw. But i truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason.

 

I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out

 

IF YOU AGREE ROLL DARKSIDE

 

Hey everyone.

 

We absolutely understand you want to get in and play the game early. It's one of the reasons we expanded our Early Game Access from a maximum of five days to a maximum of seven days. However, there are a couple of important points to realize about today's opening salvo of invites, and the procedure in general for Early Game Access and launch.

 

First, Early Game Access and launch is not supposed to be a stress test. In our previous Beta Testing Weekends we got up to very large concurrent number of players and brought invites into the game at a very high rate. That was done to stress test every aspect of our systems and servers, and essentially to see if they broke. In some cases, they did, but that helped us improve for launch.

 

For us, launch isn't just about stuffing our servers with as many people as possible. As anyone who's been through a large MMO launch can tell you, that experience can be painful. Our aim with this launch was to ramp things up gradually, to spread our player population out amongst a variety of servers, to maintain all server types, and to keep queuing to a minimum (although we expect that to happen as we head towards December 20th). So far, all that has been successful for us on Day One.

 

The second thing to realize is scale. We invited more people to play Star Wars: The Old Republic today than many other MMO launches manage in their entire head-start process. As I mentioned earlier today, when we opened pre-orders we had a huge spike in numbers - far more than most MMOs capture at launch. That was the initial rush. After that, our pre-orders settled down.

 

What this means is that tomorrow, you'll effectively start to see the pre-order timeline expand. You'll see people who have pre-ordered later than July getting invites. The day after that, more people will be invited. We're actually planning to invite more tomorrow than today, and invite the same number again on Thursday - at which point we'll be into the original 'five days of Early Game Access'.

 

Last thing. Why aren't we continuing to send waves over time? Two main reasons - one, because we need to see that the servers are maintaining stability over time; adding a lot of players in a short period (in other words, stress testing) can cause stability issues.

 

Two, our plan is to continue to add servers - but carefully, and in response to demand. We need to monitor that demand and role out servers accordingly. A long-term recipe for MMO failure is to add a lot of servers early on, and then when population decreases, have to close those servers and merge them together.

 

Our aim is for Star Wars: The Old Republic to be around for a long time to come. Today's just the first step in that - an early step, too - and we'll be running smoothly, with a stable population, before too long.

[frotty]

LOL Bioware just failed in logic

 

read the sentence. they said:

 

EARLY LAUNCH IS NOT A STRESS TEST

 

so

 

WE WILL DO WAVES BECAUSE NOT DOING WAVES = A STRESS TEST.

 

 

 

Reading comprehension

[LuckyBandit]

Where do the majority of you people get your self entitlement from? You where promised "Up to 5 days before release". Nothing more. 7 days early is just icing on the cake. If you didn't get in, suck it up. You are NOT a special little snowflake.

 

Also, can we see more copy/paste or quote replies to the devs announcement? 1-5 on all 660+ pages just isn't enough.

 

Actually some people are special snowflakes, you know...the people who got in...

[Darth_Vidius]

Passing the time watching Christmas Story

 

 

YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT

 

(possibly with an arrow that was meant for your knee)

 

LMAO hahaha