btmarine Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 So Valor Rank 65 and still not one battlemaster commendation in a bag....Ive purchased one commendation and am closing in on another. Is this about normal? It is a little frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belialle Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) If you are doing your PvP daily/weekly quests on a regular basis, then no -- that's not normal. You are unlucky. If you aren't doing your daily/weekly quests regularly....Well, who can say? I'm closing on my third BM commendation vendor purchase (but I made sure that I had 1000/1000 going into patch 1.1.5), and I'm sure that there are people out there who have bought more than that from the vendor. Maybe you don't play very much? Edited March 15, 2012 by belialle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmarine Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) 0-14 on bags, I do the daily everyday. Ive done the weekly only twice however..so maybe tings will turn soon. It is frustrating to see people valor 68 in full battlemaster and I dont have a single piece... Edited March 16, 2012 by btmarine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So Valor Rank 65 and still not one battlemaster commendation in a bag....Ive purchased one commendation and am closing in on another. Is this about normal? It is a little frustrating. i here you the BM comm rate is poor 1 out of 13 BM bags is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmarine Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ive debated quitting over it, I mean its so frustrating. But I also realize there is a random factor to it....I mean its there game..it just seems to generate so much animosity for the game...why would you do it? By the way Im standing next to a guy right now, he is rank 66 with 5 pieces, not counting the implants. His name is Yar'surus on the Rubat crystal server. I am near 66 with 0 pieces...I actually counted...I am 0-19 on bags. i am about to turn in my 2nd set of 1000/1000..so tomorrow i will have 2 commendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclekaula Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I've had a consistent 1 out of 4 bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I do the dailies everyday and I get the weeklies done each week. I hit BM just under one month ago and I have only received five BM tokens. Fifty-four bags and only five BM comms. Frustrating to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brittaany_Banks Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Whenever you implement a system based on luck and not accomplishment devs you risk losing part of your player base. When are developers going to realize this? To counter this luck system you made a BM token coast 4000 warzone tokens. Honestly guys do you understand how long it takes to get even just 1000 warzone tokens? So it is either get lucky which we have no control over or grind nothing but warzones to try and get tokens? Fabulous mechanic devs just fabulous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmarine Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Yeah I'm not going to continue. I cancelled...I cant stand the thought of going on and being upset over something so stupid. If I have to play 65 or so decent matches per commendation....that seems unreasonable to me. I know...my decision. But my wife doesnt care, so no where else to vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matekwong Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I am sorry to hear your unfortunate experience. I am having a 1/3 chance so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercharlez Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Could we at least convert our champion commendations into battlemasters ?Even if it's a 500 for 1 ratio, i don't care. I've got 1000 champions and they're useless. Please do something Bioware ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 i know how frustrating it is i got BM like a week ago almost i done all the dailys every day and got 0 BM commsnowsome other gots BM yesturday and got 4 BM comms. i hate the bag system its utterly pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I just hit 65 and have been doing ALL daily/weekly since 60. x3 From Bagsx1 Purchased Time: x3 Weeks They really should increase the drop rate, a 75% chance of not getting a Comm is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warultima Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) 0-14 on bags, I do the daily everyday. Ive done the weekly only twice however..so maybe tings will turn soon. It is frustrating to see people valor 68 in full battlemaster and I dont have a single piece... You realize if you finish your dailies everyday, you WILL finish weeklies every week right? You should be getting 16 bags a week + 1 BM Comm with 1000/1000. It takes about 50 WZ (which means 150 ilum pick ups - weekly done) to get 4000 WZ comm on average. Edited March 16, 2012 by warultima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humankeg Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Had 2 in my first 3 bags, and have gotten about 12 in 30 or so bags. I was one of the luckier ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsos Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I am seriously starting to think there is a bug. I used to get champion tokens all the time, but since the bag change went live, ive opened countless (probably 100+) champion bags without a single champion token, and since i got battlemaster ive opened about 15 or so and not gotten a single battlemaster comm. Another guild member says he got 4 tokens from opening about 10-12 bags and he only got BM about a week before me. I dont expect it will change since they are supposedly doing away with bags completely eventually but i wish they would do something for the short term. I'm being completely passed by in gear by people who leveled up after me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akyio Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 they fixed champion bags but they didnt fix battlemasters bags, it's sad actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartes Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I would like to see champ comms exchangable for BM ones in any ratio, even 1000:1 I think I am closing to my third 1k stack of Champion comms (spent rest on my companions gear) and basically have nothing to do with them anymore, same as with Centurion ones. That aside, I do my dailies very rarely due to lack of time to play but I only miss offhand and boots/hat BM gear. So droprate is not that bad. Maybe I am just lucky but on tuesdays when I usually do both dailies and weeklies I get 2 BM comms out of 4 bags, once I got 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trephination Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) I think the OP's concerns are more far-reaching than BW seems to realize. The current "luck-based" PvP reward system is fundamentally flawed, because even in average to optimal conditions the 25% chance to receive a commendation leaves the player upset far more often than not. Is nobody at Bioware familiar with Loss Aversion? This means that even if we doubled the rate at which people received commendations from bags (25% to 50%), the player will--overall--feel worse off over time because every disappointment-filled bag hits us harder than the comm-filled ones can make up for, relatively speaking. The solution is simple: each bag contains 1 commendation, and each piece of gear costs 4 times as many comms. This change would keep players consistently happy because they will never feel like they're being cheated relative to their fellow players. The fact that this change has not already been implemented is quickly approaching ridiculous. I've had full BM for a long time, but BW's lack of attention to such a simple problem is still incredibly frustrating. Edited March 16, 2012 by Trephination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsos Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) The solution is simple: each bag contains 1 commendation, and each piece of gear costs 4 times as many comms. I would rather do this and turn it into a gear grind than how it is now and potentially going weeks of doing all my dailies without a single bit of progress. Edited March 16, 2012 by Narsos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaithe Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think the OP's concerns are more far-reaching than BW seems to realize. The current "luck-based" PvP reward system is fundamentally flawed, because even in average to optimal conditions the 25% chance to receive a commendation leaves the player upset far more often than not. Is nobody at Bioware familiar with Loss Aversion? This means that even if we doubled the rate at which people received commendations from bags (25% to 50%), the player will--overall--feel worse off over time because every disappointment-filled bag hits us harder than the comm-filled ones can make up for, relatively speaking. The solution is simple: each bag contains 1 commendation, and each piece of gear costs 4 times as many comms. This change would keep players consistently happy because they will never feel like they're being cheated relative to their fellow players. The fact that this change has not already been implemented is quickly approaching ridiculous. I've had full BM for a long time, but BW's lack of attention to such a simple problem is still incredibly frustrating. The solution already exists, 1.2 will be removing the bag system entirely. I can understand people quitting over it, it's utterly frustrating and completely moronic (sometimes BW just makes me facepalm with what they thought was acceptable) but at least they realize this and have communicated out how they are planning on changing it. That's enough to make me tough it out for now at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtnicalSaint Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Could we at least convert our champion commendations into battlemasters ? Even if it's a 500 for 1 ratio, i don't care. I've got 1000 champions and they're useless. Please do something Bioware ! That is a damn good idea. I have been looking for somebody with a legit idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So Valor Rank 65 and still not one battlemaster commendation in a bag....Ive purchased one commendation and am closing in on another. Is this about normal? It is a little frustrating. you're just having a streak of bad luck. no need to complain about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiJonPed Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Considering what they're doing with Patch 1.2, this entire thread is moot beyond the issue of using luck rolls to progress (but then is a loot drop from a boss not a luck roll ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Considering what they're doing with Patch 1.2, this entire thread is moot beyond the issue of using luck rolls to progress (but then is a loot drop from a boss not a luck roll ). That's my whole reason for not QQing all over the forums about it. Loot in MMOs are supposed to be luck based. Being a PvPer shouldn't entitle you to get guaranteed loot just for playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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