MadCuzBad Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I have been noticing a trend of people leaving dead servers and flocking in groves to onlt a few heavily populated servers. Is this the "NEW" trend? I watched this happen on SWG and it caused a major unbalance in server population. Basicaly everyone that played repopulated only 3 servers and all the other servers died. When developers refuse to address the "too many servers" ssue this almost always happens. It is almost a 100% gaurentee. If you dont believe me, roll a toon on TheFatman. After that it is self explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizo Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 The worst is that "The Fatman" was one of the best balanced servers, that is until Ruin decieded to bring its 600+ group of casuals and socials to our server. Ruin is a prime example of a server destroyer. If they went republic It would have balanced our server to 50-50, or somewhere close to that. But like the OP said it's the issue he described plus ruin = The Fatman server downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCuzBad Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 Oh and I have noticed because of this that the other servers I used to play on are suffering from population loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VainEldritch Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 SWTOR has >17x the population of SWG. This is unlikely. People need to appreciate that SWTOR is far far more populated with casuals - moreso than any other MMORPG I've ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCuzBad Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 SWTOR has >17x the population of SWG. This is unlikely. People need to appreciate that SWTOR is far far more populated with casuals - moreso than any other MMORPG I've ever played. Certain principals apply whether you have 20,000 players or 1,000,000 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VainEldritch Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RIgs3eygo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I think you almost thought. This post is productive and contributing in a healthy manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercogburn Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Flocking is usually done in droves. If groves were flocking then you have to deal with a druid infestation. Damn treehuggers. Sorry to read about all the druids appearing on your server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 To be honest, I would never play on a small "dead" server. I want an active experience and so populated servers are where I am happiest. Lord Adraas is very populated; I've never played Fatman. Many players from Starsider wound up on Adraas but I assume you're talking about the population numbers and not community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchdressing Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Flocking is usually done in droves. If groves were flocking then you have to deal with a druid infestation. Damn treehuggers. Sorry to read about all the druids appearing on your server. Dude. This made me roflcopter. Thanks for that. Druids. Pfffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortech Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) I sure hope not.. I thought Starsider was RP server..? Considering the Bloodfin (PVP) guilds that matter are here I hope there is no more confusion. The Fatman is PVP oriented and will hopefully stay that way! Painfully casuals and RPrs need not apply. Edited March 15, 2012 by Vortech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I sure hope not.. I thought Starsider was RP server..? Considering the Bloodfin (PVP) guilds that matter are here I hope there is no more confusion. The Fatman is PVP oriented and will hopefully stay that way! Painfully casuals and RPrs need not apply. Yeah, that's what I was wondering lol. Starsider was the unofficial RP server and I haven't seen anything about Fatman and RP, so it was a weird comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evoleye Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I sure hope not.. I thought Starsider was RP server..? Considering the Bloodfin (PVP) guilds that matter are here I hope there is no more confusion. The Fatman is PVP oriented and will hopefully stay that way! Painfully casuals and RPrs need not apply. I agree! We only want the unemployed to join this server. If you cant pvp 22 hours a day 7 days a week ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahdasz Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Well let's be honest, BW let their heads get so big the common sense couldn't find it's way out any more. They hyped up this chunk of crap of a game so much that they had so many forum subs and pre-orders they went totally bat-crap crazy deciding how many servers to set up. Of course now we're almost three months in and everyone realizes that this game isn't all that and a bag of chips and the population has halved. Heck, anybody could have seen that coming, even if the game was all that you should expect 1/4 to 1/3 of the people are going to play for a few months and quit either because they miss the game they've been playing for years or they realized this game isn't the game they were looking for after all. Bad on BW for setting up 80 kajillion servers from the get-go tbh, they should have started at about half of what they have now and had a plan in place to expand in a few months if needed. In stead they offered way too many servers to start and now that half the people didn't resub they're stuck with the same problem SWG had post-NGE. Good job BW, yet again you show the world why you're not fit to host an MMO. By the way, you make SOE almost look like a good company, so I'm sure they thank you. Many players from Starsider wound up on Adraas Thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure not to start any toons on Adraas. Edited March 15, 2012 by bahdasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Well let's be honest, BW let their heads get so big the common sense couldn't find it's way out any more. They hyped up this chunk of crap of a game so much that they had so many forum subs and pre-orders they went totally bat-crap crazy deciding how many servers to set up. Of course now we're almost three months in and everyone realizes that this game isn't all that and a bag of chips and the population has halved. Heck, anybody could have seen that coming, even if the game was all that you should expect 1/4 to 1/3 of the people are going to play for a few months and quit either because they miss the game they've been playing for years or they realized this game isn't the game they were looking for after all. Bad on BW for setting up 80 kajillion servers from the get-go tbh, they should have started at about half of what they have now and had a plan in place to expand in a few months if needed. In stead they offered way too many servers to start and now that half the people didn't resub they're stuck with the same problem SWG had post-NGE. Good job BW, yet again you show the world why you're not fit to host an MMO. By the way, you make SOE look like a good company, so I'm sure they thank you. Yet at launch everyone cried and said Bioware was the worst company ever because there were queues to log in. If they only had a few servers people would complain they needed more. There is literally no way to appease this bitter (forum) community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahdasz Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yet at launch everyone cried and said Bioware was the worst company ever because there were queues to log in. If they only had a few servers people would complain they needed more. There is literally no way to appease this bitter (forum) community. Do you work for bioware, or do they just give you a free sub for defending them all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Do you work for bioware, or do they just give you a free sub for defending them all the time? I hardly defend them all the time (I actually hate a few things about this game); I just enjoy reading the forums for the community but constantly see threads proclaiming the game's end, calling it the worst thing ever, screaming about Bioware being terrible, etc. I enjoy the game overall, so I play it. If I thought it was horrible, I wouldn't be here. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 What would have actually made sense was them pushing back release till the game was ready (think 1.2) so that they didn't have a ridiculously huge population playing on xmas break, thus giving them a better idea of server pops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynellan Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Rerolled Fatman and never looked back, why wait for BW to pull head out of *** and look around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) What would have actually made sense was them pushing back release till the game was ready (think 1.2) so that they didn't have a ridiculously huge population playing on xmas break, thus giving them a better idea of server pops. What would have made sense for you is to not subscribe to an MMO at launch. Wait until you see enough internet evidence that the game is up to your requirements. Edited March 15, 2012 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I seriously don't see the big deal. We are getting 1.2 within 4 months of the game being released with much more content to come after. Games at launch are always the bare bones version of what they wind up becoming in the future. I personally like being in on something from the beginning and watching it grow and change over time. No MMO will ever be "finished." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruxe Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 The worst is that "The Fatman" was one of the best balanced servers, that is until Ruin decieded to bring its 600+ group of casuals and socials to our server. Ruin is a prime example of a server destroyer. If they went republic It would have balanced our server to 50-50, or somewhere close to that. But like the OP said it's the issue he described plus ruin = The Fatman server downfall. Oh God, Ruin. I feel bad for people on that server. Had to deal with them in WAR. *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 What would have made sense for you is to not subscribe to an MMO at launch. Wait until you see enough internet evidence that the game is up to your requirements. Are you telling me that you think the game was ready for release and that the desire for xmastime sales didn't have anything to do with them releasing it when they did, and that xmas break didn't artificially increase sever population and thus cause them to open more servers then would have been necessary had they waited until such a time that the game was ready and/or a large portion of their playebase wasn't off on holiday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjfett Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Flocking is usually done in droves. If groves were flocking then you have to deal with a druid infestation. Damn treehuggers. Sorry to read about all the druids appearing on your server. This soo needs a +1 vote. ROFL Good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iliac Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I personally like being in on something from the beginning and watching it grow and change over time. No MMO will ever be "finished." I think it's safe to say that SWG is now "finished". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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