heikaze Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 First i would like to state that the new pvp changes and the direction of the pvp in this game is going really well. That being said, the commendation gain need to be increased. Why? Because new battlemaster commendation cost 1000/1000. Now, you gain between 80-100 commendation in a full match of WZ, which takes at least 15 min. You need 4000 for 1 BM comm. And 2-3 BM comm for one piece of gear. Lets just say for argument sake you gain 100 commendation for playing for 15min. every time. An hour would yield you 400 commendation. So therefore you would need 10 hours of warzone just to get one BM Comm. To buy a 2 commendation piece of BM gear you would need 20 hours of play time, with JUST doing warzones. Just for the 5 set piece, you would need 100 hour of play time. For casual players, which plays only 2 - 3 hours a day, it would take at least 2 month of just doing warzones alone to get the 5 set piece, this is not including the weapon, off hand, and relics. People can say there are dailies too, but you only get 12 bags from dailies a week. And I have gotten 1 commendation out of those 12 bags. And I am sure other players have better success with bags, but there are probably more players that has not like myself. It should not take you 2 - 3 month of warzone alone to get geared. I also like to do PVE, raiding with my guild which would increase the amount of time by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrantLeader Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 agreed. need to raise wz win comms by atleast 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriMage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hmmm... That is what the champ gear is for??? If u want the best PvP gear in the game, u have to work for it, plain and simple. Stop with the "making things easier" it's getting annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reenolols Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Uh before this patch you had bags to get bm comms and that was it. Now that you can buy them too you're complaining? They did nothing but make it easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineaid Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Who cares if they make it easier to obtain BM gear? Are you all that mad that it would help balance pvp quicker with less gear discrepancy between players, or do you enjoy hiding behind the cloak of BM gear? Valor Rank= Skill level apparently in your world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriMage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Or maybe players who actually put in more time should get more rewards? Sure, I'm hiding behind the BM cloak, like BM is such a huge upgrade to Champ, yeah haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojaix Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure that buying the BM comms was put in as a alternate way to obtain those comms instead of relying totally on the rng and not the main way to get those comms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDecypher Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) pfft raise commendations. You can easily get 100 per match now. 100 x 10 matches = 1000 So to get 1000/1000 you would need approximately 2500-3500 commendations, i'm too lazy to calculate it out. That is like 25 games to buy a bm token. If you make it too easy then everyone get's to endgame and gets bored. I guess we have the next tier of gear to look forward too, but i think the system is fine. Certainly better than a random bag pull with nothing in it. Edited March 8, 2012 by xDecypher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazhero Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You cry babies already got your valor gain increase, now go get BM in a week and stop complaining about things. Do the work and you will be rewarded. All you weak kids want everything handed to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriMage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You cry babies already got your valor gain increase, now go get BM in a week and stop complaining about things. Do the work and you will be rewarded. All you weak kids want everything handed to you. this.... Ridiculous. I have 4 BM pieces and I love that I can finally plan for the next pieces and don't have to rely on RNG. Do I have to work for it? Sure but that is what makes it even better. All those who just don't want to work for anything are just ridiculous tbh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talizzar Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Welfare have been working great in the USA. Why not in mmos. One piece of BM gear for each match played. Then we will find out who the real pvper are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derian Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The difference between champion level and BM level gear is tiny. As long as Champion is easy to get which it is, it's not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helig Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'm pretty sure that buying the BM comms was put in as a alternate way to obtain those comms instead of relying totally on the rng and not the main way to get those comms. Indeed. Bags are supposed to be the main source. BM gear isn't supposed to be handed to you right away when you hit rank 60- where's the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriMage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Indeed. Bags are supposed to be the main source. BM gear isn't supposed to be handed to you right away when you hit rank 60- where's the fun in that? Sir, I have to say that ur sig is epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashgan Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) First people say "PvP shouldn't be all about gear - it's all about fun" meaning gear shouldn't matter anything. And *right* after that "do not allow people to get BM gear right after lvl60 valor" meaning BM gear is a big deal despite real difference with champion set is minimal - like 5% - and it's mostly all about its look and social status. You, people, ever heard about logic? Try to use it sometimes. And yes - instant BM gear set at level 60 could be nice. Commendations amount should be boosted x2 because mercs commendations supposed to be farmed as easy as warzone commendations (300-400 per hour) but due to BW's laziness they aren't implemented yet and cost x3 more time than they should - do basic math and you'll find out warzones commendations output should be around 600-800 per hour to compensate missing mechanics of acquiring mercs commendations via open world PvP. Yet Bioware cover their incompetence in MMO development and unfinished game functionality with time and subscription fees of players. P.S. I have full BM suit and it was extremely stupid to farm it via dailies on ilum for 1.5 months. Edited March 8, 2012 by Pashgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helig Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Sir, I have to say that ur sig is epic I'm rather fond of it myself, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikassi Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You cry babies already got your valor gain increase, now go get BM in a week and stop complaining about things. Do the work and you will be rewarded. All you weak kids want everything handed to you. A week to getbattlemaster gear? Think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talizzar Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gear is never an issue unless everyone else can get it and then the gear based pvpers is hosed. Real pvpers are gonna beat you and have been beating you in less gear. Most of the QQ here is from the valor sploiters who raced and got their gear and were gods for a month. No that people are catching up they are getting owned and don't like it, because now they have to mash more than a few buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzone Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Who cares if they make it easier to obtain BM gear? Players like me and I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzone Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Welfare have been working great in the USA. It has? Well if the plan was to make it easy for people to not work then yeah it's working great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmundai Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 A week to getbattlemaster gear? Think again. it only takes a week when the walls are concrete and your mom is right upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proppa Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think people come from different gaming backgrounds, I'm guessing those who enjoy the gear grind played WOW? I never did, I dislike the gear grind and would rather see Character Progression through other means not a way to create an uneven PvP system. I like playing competatively but without competative gear it's always easy to blame the gear, which gets annoying. It's just what we are used to I guess, I genuinely don't understand the mindset of the grind, honestly. I don't get why you would want to spend however many hours a day, in the hope to get a PvP piece. I play for the PvP, it's "exciting" when you get a good fight etc. The focus should be on the fights themselves and not who has the best gear. Unless of course someone goes out in all green gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Or maybe players who actually put in more time should get more rewards? Sure, I'm hiding behind the BM cloak, like BM is such a huge upgrade to Champ, yeah haha! +2-3 in endurance and cunnin/will/aim makes a big difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proppa Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) +2-3 in endurance and cunnin/will/aim makes a big difference! Ok got that wrong ;D Edited March 8, 2012 by Proppa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think people come from different gaming backgrounds, I'm guessing those who enjoy the gear grind played WOW? I never did, I dislike the gear grind and would rather see Character Progression through other means not a way to create an uneven PvP system. I like playing competatively but without competative gear it's always easy to blame the gear, which gets annoying. It's just what we are used to I guess, I genuinely don't understand the mindset of the grind, honestly. I don't get why you would want to spend however many hours a day, in the hope to get a PvP piece. I play for the PvP, it's "exciting" when you get a good fight etc. The focus should be on the fights themselves and not who has the best gear. Unless of course someone goes out in all green gear. champ gear is easy to obtain and there aint that much of a difference with that and BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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