Lasarith Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 but seriously snipers don't run up to people to shiv them. Dps operatives don't go into cover to use snipe or explosive probe except maybe if forced out of melee for a extended period. No .. you Just Kick us in the .......... But if you,re in Cover yer mine ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoofa Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You aren't a real sage until you've killed a few people in a WZ with your lightsaber I do still have the "double-sweep" in my hotbar for those times when I've been rushed and they have oh so little health left. Maybe I'm waiting on other cool-downs, but that slash for a little damage can kill off something/someone. I think my record is 3 kills with lightsaber in a WZ - should have got a special comendation for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHChrist Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This is a ploy to a prevent casting damage/heal nerf. Most people do this when they know this class is over-powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieAlteHexe Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 OP... First you wanted stealth, now you're upset about how a sorc/sage's weapon is not a damage machine. A thought...maybe concentrate on what you have, how to use it optimally and not worry 'bout what other classes have. You'll probably enjoy the game a bit more. Grass is not always greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silthir Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 OP... First you wanted stealth, now you're upset about how a sorc/sage's weapon is not a damage machine. A thought...maybe concentrate on what you have, how to use it optimally and not worry 'bout what other classes have. You'll probably enjoy the game a bit more. Grass is not always greener. Either that or if you seriously wanna use a lightsaber so bad for damage go make a damned Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior and stop complaining about a Sage/Sorcerer have little ability to deal damage with a lightsaber. Seriously, if you recall Yoda and Sidious only used lightsabers when absolutely necessary, preferring the use of the Force over the use of a lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It's a stat stick. Think of it like a mages staff, utterly useless for attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairMagpie Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Whether it's worthwhile to bash or not, it is rather odd to have abilities that don't scale with the main stat. But that's the point: They do and usually they do so even much better for main casters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daMarek Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Uhm what?!? This is a horrible troll. Willpower increases the damage done by ALL Of your abilities, including your melee attacks. The only reasons those attacks don't do much damage is because either A.) You never bothered to level them B.) They don't get bonuses/scaling from your skills Each class has one stat that increases its damage, regardless of the attack being "melee or ranged." It does NOT for melee strikes. Melee damage still has the strength requirement. Get your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppup Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 OP... First you wanted stealth, now you're upset about how a sorc/sage's weapon is not a damage machine. A thought...maybe concentrate on what you have, how to use it optimally and not worry 'bout what other classes have. You'll probably enjoy the game a bit more. Grass is not always greener. Maybe he should just roll a, I dunno, a GD assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyvaris Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) It does NOT for melee strikes. Melee damage still has the strength requirement. Get your facts straight. No you are wrong. Each class has ONE stat that adds to their damage, and a second stat that CAN add to their damage. Any damage you will be doing, regardless if its with your saber or with a force power will gain damage FROM YOUR WILLPOWER STAT! Strength will add a .08 extra damage amount to your melee attacks ONLY, while Willpower adds 1.00 damage to ALL your attacks. READ THAT AGAIN ALL YOUR ATTACK! BOTH MELEE AND FORCE!! Each class follows this SAME design. My Jedi Knight has a force attack...does that mean I should be stacking will? NO! STRENGTH ADDS TO ALL MY DAMAGE REGARDLESS OF TYPE!! THAT IS WHY ITS A PRIMARY STAT! Nice attempt trying to troll, no go crawl back under a bridge. Edited March 5, 2012 by cyvaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silthir Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Again... I say. Either that or if you seriously wanna use a lightsaber so bad for damage go make a damned Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior and stop complaining about a Sage/Sorcerer have little ability to deal damage with a lightsaber. Seriously, if you recall Yoda and Sidious only used lightsabers when absolutely necessary, preferring the use of the Force over the use of a lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbatorrix Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The main stat Willpower does not increase the damage of their weapon (Lightsaber). Lightsaber damage is tied to Strength, an utterly useless stat for sorc/sage. I know it is a ranged class, but all other ranged classes have their main stat Aim or Cunning tied to their weapon damage, and they can use it at close range too. Is this as intended or is it an oversight/bug/feature? First off, you're wrong. lightsaber strikes for your class are tied to WP (otherwise, an assassin wouldn't be stacking WP). Secondly, you NEVER want to even be within Melee range if you can help it as a Sorc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieAlteHexe Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It does NOT for melee strikes. Melee damage still has the strength requirement. Get your facts straight. Hit "C" on your character. Wave your mouse-cursor over the Willpower stat. Read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancaglon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) It does NOT for melee strikes. Melee damage still has the strength requirement. Get your facts straight. Dead wrong. Jedi Consulars and Sith Inquistors, AND both Advanced Classes of those, use Willpower to increase both force AND melee damage. Show me a shadow/asssassin that's stacking strength for increased melee damage and I'll show you an idiot. Easier yet, unequip some of your Willpower gear and watch the melee bonus damage go down. Edited March 5, 2012 by Ancaglon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyvaris Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Dead wrong. Jedi Consulars and Sith Inquistors, AND both Advanced Classes of those, use Willpower to increase both force AND melee damage. Show me a shadow/asssassin that's stacking strength for increased melee damage and I'll show you an idiot. So you would show the OP himself then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silthir Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It does NOT for melee strikes. Melee damage still has the strength requirement. Get your facts straight. With this post I must admit the OP is simply trollin'. No one can be that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancaglon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) So you would show the OP himself then? Well I could but I'm assuming he's just deluded or been told the wrong thing by some Jedi Knight or Sith Warrior. Edited March 5, 2012 by Ancaglon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenjohnp Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You basically complaining that a Mage cannot do decent damage thwacking people over the head with his/her staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancaglon Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Pretty much the worst anti-nerf smokescreen ever, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerandar Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The only thing unfair for sorc/sage's is that sorcs have faster animations. anyone playing a Sage is playing a gimped sorcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterCarr Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Either the OP is just trolling, or he doesn't know how to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTaxius Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This is stupid. Sorc are WAY overpowered as it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FooBard Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 IMO, Sages/Sorc should not even need a lightsaber... being they are never used. Sages/Sorc should have some kind of focus item in their "MAIN HAND"... and in combat, their hand is just glowy or something... Pulling out a lightsaber during combat seems odd for this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Why are you attacking with your weapon as a Sorc or Sage? if you're a heal spec sorc, it's DPS isn't that far off from what you can do with lightning. Really. I have 690 base force power (well, by base I mean with just my own class buff) on my Sorc so I'm comfrtable in saying this. Considering the nature of PvP and interrupts, it's not bad at finishing someone off. I wouldn't spend the entire fight doing it, obviously. Plus, in PvE (standard stuff), it's just fun Edited March 5, 2012 by islander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daMarek Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Go in character screen > melee damage and put your mouse over bonus damage. No willpower there - only strength. I think im owed an apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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