Keldaur Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) It's RNG with a 25% for the highest valor, a 15% for the leader of the biggest premade group, and a 5% to somebody who doesn't know to spell. Edited February 24, 2012 by Keldaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakimou Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Example Person 1 has valor 20000 / 40000 Person 2 has valor 31000 / 35000 Person 2 will be the ops leader. The highiest current valor counts. When I was almost valor 59 I was constantly ops leader all day, when I hit 59 and had 1000 / 42000 valor i stopped being ops leader. Sounds absurd enough to be true. BioWare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxJXTxxx Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think it's highest valor rank, but that also it's slightly bugged and doesn't always work 100%. We know the UI is bugged half the time with certain characters not showing up in the operation frame, so I'm assuming that the same or similar bug causes the highest valor character not to get the lead. Of course, everything in this thread is just guessing, so I'm hoping we can get some dev comment for confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchyGremlin Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 here are the observations . opsleader changes when new people enter before the WZ match starts. . people with the highest valor do not always get opleader. . we cant assign/reassign opsleader manually this is the most likley guess... the player nearest their levels valor cap get opsleader. But this could be proven untrue by 50 only rank 60 valor players. I am guessing its a combination of player closest to cap and then random for ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greennunu Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Whoever has the largest muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natharon Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Not necessarily I've lost lead to new players with a lower rank than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsem Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 my guess is that the person with highest valor rank on main character gets ops leader even if he joins with an alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalawaJoko Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) It's not only about the Valor rank and I know this because I've had lead even if there was someone else with higher rank. But I quite often get the leader though and no I'm not necessarily good at being one. Edited February 24, 2012 by PalawaJoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahhmyface Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) This has bugged me for the longest time. I am very, very, very, often the opsleader. Some days ill go 7-8 warzones in a row being the opsleader. I'm not the highest valor rank. I keep joining warzones and voila, im leader again. I keep spamming chat "WHY ME? EVERY DAMN TIME". creeping me out tbh. i have one interesting fact: there are 2 hidden subgroups in every wz ops. you can discover this yourself by using /p and only your grp (if you queued as 4) will be able to see it. If you queue as 3 then the 4th guy (next to you in the ops display) will be able to see it as well. I originally suspected it was related to group. However, grp leader and highest valour per grp do not affect this. One other consideration: i have a very fast comp. Edited February 24, 2012 by Ahhmyface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakimou Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Example Person 1 has valor 20000 / 40000 Person 2 has valor 31000 / 35000 Person 2 will be the ops leader. The highiest current valor counts. When I was almost valor 59 I was constantly ops leader all day, when I hit 59 and had 1000 / 42000 valor i stopped being ops leader. I've observed WZ leaders today and this seems to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 How much you want to bet it's another random coinflip, Voidstar style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyntari Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Example Person 1 has valor 20000 / 40000 Person 2 has valor 31000 / 35000 Person 2 will be the ops leader. The highiest current valor counts. When I was almost valor 59 I was constantly ops leader all day, when I hit 59 and had 1000 / 42000 valor i stopped being ops leader. This is also what I have observed It seems to me like they intended it to be the person with the highest overall valor, but mistakenly referenced the wrong variable in the code and so it ends up using your valor into current level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astarica Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The Ops leader is the person the game determined to be the most well geared person in your Ops. This is usually the person with the highest Valor rank for obvious reasons, but not always. Note that the game puts some very unusual values for certain things, like matrix cubes. BM/Rakata gear do not get the weight you think they'd have (it's not even clear if the game weights them as higher than Champion). In fact, full Champion + Matrix Cube is the one setup that will consistently get you the leader spot no matter what other people are wearing. I verified this because before there were Rakata/BM gear become widely available, you can inspect whoever is leader and it is obvious that the leader is always the guy closest to full Champion/Columi. It's also too consistent to be something random like % of valor to next rank. I know I always had Ops leader before I hit Valor 60 no matter how close (or not) I was to next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullcrobicus Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Example Person 1 has valor 20000 / 40000 Person 2 has valor 31000 / 35000 Person 2 will be the ops leader. The highiest current valor counts. When I was almost valor 59 I was constantly ops leader all day, when I hit 59 and had 1000 / 42000 valor i stopped being ops leader. its this. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 my guess is that the person with highest valor rank on main character gets ops leader even if he joins with an alt. My highest valor-rank toon is 57, and he gets ops lead over my battlemaster friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchyGremlin Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 The Ops leader is the person the game determined to be the most well geared person in your Ops. This is usually the person with the highest Valor rank for obvious reasons, but not always. Note that the game puts some very unusual values for certain things, like matrix cubes. BM/Rakata gear do not get the weight you think they'd have (it's not even clear if the game weights them as higher than Champion). In fact, full Champion + Matrix Cube is the one setup that will consistently get you the leader spot no matter what other people are wearing. I verified this because before there were Rakata/BM gear become widely available, you can inspect whoever is leader and it is obvious that the leader is always the guy closest to full Champion/Columi. It's also too consistent to be something random like % of valor to next rank. I know I always had Ops leader before I hit Valor 60 no matter how close (or not) I was to next level. That is really interesting. Is it possible too that it doesnt rate by highest value but by bighest value for level. so a level 20 with lots of purple gear ranks higher than a level 49 with all blue? still it seems to me it the person closest to valor level cap gets ops... but maybe... it gear cap??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsofcover Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) That is really interesting. Is it possible too that it doesnt rate by highest value but by bighest value for level. so a level 20 with lots of purple gear ranks higher than a level 49 with all blue? still it seems to me it the person closest to valor level cap gets ops... but maybe... it gear cap??? Shooting this down; Our server bot who shows up in starting whites in the 50 bracket gets leader sometimes. 4800 hp, just runs in and dies all the time. Haven't seen him in a few days, though. Edited February 27, 2012 by wingsofcover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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