ShiroRX Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Can any experienced pvp pyros shed some light on the in-practice usefulness of these talents? Automated seems good with all the +crit talents (and eliminator set bonus) but I'd like to know from those with burn marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athilias Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Both are good for getting your heat management and ES down. Pop ES anytime you think a fight is going over 12s, and use your TO whenever you plan to cast something that's 25 heat. I'd say I save about 30s on each one in their respective cooldowns. KO is a nice bonus too Edited February 17, 2012 by Athilias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Automated defenses is weak compared to Energy Rebounder. 25% migition from everything beats a low health restore and the heat free attacks is nice but isn't as good as Energy shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroRX Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 bump in hopes of some additional commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarunaoe Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Energy Rebounder is a must, but you really only need 1 point due to the internal cooldown. The difference is huge, but one you have to experience to really appreciate. Being able to pop Energy Shield almost every minute (you really get hit that much) is a big deal. Automated Defenses is less critical, but again, I think it only warrants 1 point. Between AOE, Unload, and Rapid Shots, you're likely going to get a crit every so often. Neither TSO or KO are as impacting as Energy Shield, but both are nice. Due to the nature of talent points, it basically comes down to whether you value 1 point of Automated Defenses over 1 point in the other PVP filler talents. I find all of the lower tree stuff pretty lackluster, personally, but your mileage may vary. Edited February 18, 2012 by omarunaoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Don't bother with either not worth the points compared to other high dmg abilities, but I run with a healer 9 times out of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theangryllama Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Don't bother with either not worth the points compared to other high dmg abilities, but I run with a healer 9 times out of 10 Assuming your taking infrared sensors and sweltering heat (which you should be for pvp) your still left with 2 points to put in either these, alignment jets or degauss in or to reach TD. Gyroscopic alignment jets is just plain pointless and degauss is only really useful if it was paired with energy rebounder. I personally prefer automated because a) I pve more (obvious choice there) and b) because I don't run with a pocket healer so generally do my best to avoid being hit where ever possible and thus having kolto overload up more often to heal in between encounters as opposed to having to get hit to lower the CD is a plus for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherMcLoud Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Automated Defenses is really meh. Kolto Overload is pretty much the worst cooldown out of all the classes' cooldowns. A heatfree ability is sweet but you can do without. Energy Rebounder though is boss. It pretty much makes Energy Shield have a 1 minute cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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